Trance music on acid

Hey

I'm from the UK, and over here, there's a lot of acid going around in the psy-trance scene, so most of my trips are with friends at raves or at houses where someone's playing some sort of trance.

This is fine. I love the music, and when I'm peaking it's incredible to dance to, I feel like I'm becoming one with the music, and I always find an indescribable sense of freedom, wherever I am.

The trouble is though, when I'm coming down (and by coming down I really mean like, sometimes up to the entire second half of the trip almost - although the time distortion makes it hard to tell), I find my mind wanders, and it concentrates on things. This is also great, most of the time, but, what seems to be becoming a recurring pattern in my trips, is that I will hear the music right down to the minutest detail, and beyond.

The detail just gets too intense to the point at which it can become quite scary. I'm not much of a music expert so you'll have to bear with my amateur explanations, but imagine say, the baseline, my mind turns that into words. Not actual words as such, but sounds. Every part of the music becomes it's own sound, which loops over and over and over (as is the nature of trance music, but you only really notice how much it does it when it changes from an electronic note into an organic sound)

I've only done acid 5 times now, and on the second time I had a bad trip (also one trip ended a bit poorly since I had to catch a train home while coming down and I was really tired, but it wasn't bad per se, the others have all been great). The bad trip started off with the over-detailed music, and then progressed to a terribly clichéd "oh no, I've fried my brain!" thing combined with some really weird dreams about growing old, among other deep visions on life and the world, which are hard to describe in words.

Needless to say this was quite scary for my second time, but since then, I've had these over-detailed music experiences pop up briefly during trips. I'm not sure whether it's the sound itself (which is rather annoying), or that my mind associates it with the start of something scary, but I purposefully surpress it, by concentrating hard on something else (this usually means a brief squeeze of a nearby friend ), and it doesn't spoil things for me.

I guess what I'm wondering is if it's nescessarily indicative of bad thoughts to come. I'm thinking next time I may just let it go and see what happens.

 

Everybody has a bad trip now and then....I've seen people totally freak! While dosage is always a factor....mind set and setting are much more important! I've seen people take large doses and be fine then freak on nothing special.



"Seeing" music ,visions, is typcal of large doses....one time looking in a mirror I watched as I morphed into several different people, including cavemen!Or even small doses (with no distractions)

Mindset and setting ...if you really want to "go with it" do it with some really close freinds (ones that won't be in your face going man are you fucked up?) Put on YOUR favorite music and RELAX!

 

Stop listening to shitty repetative music. I've never had a bad trip but then again I don't listen to trance.

 

omg Listen to Paul Okenfold one of the best trance Dj's.. this music even fuckign kills me on weed... i wonder what will happen if i eat shrooms tomorrow omg...
try all kinds of music and see...

 

i suggest you keep fighting it.

sometimes with mush i start to get bad trips, and i constantly tell myself "thats just the mush, dont let it get to you, enjoy the trip" and im always fine.

i assume this is the same sort of principal

 

I guess its the opposite

he should stop fighting

but in some trance party maybe it is hard to find a place to retire

 

you can always sense when a bad trip is coming, and if you sense this as a bad trip, why would you choose to give into it? i would fight it. take your mind off it, think of something you enjoy

 

I kind of have another theory. You say you are listening to these trance cds...and you say you are 'frequently' experiencing hearing words in the bassline and it feels negitive. Call me crazy (which is quite possible) but what if the bad vibes you are picking up on are actually bad vibes?? I feel, when i eat lsd, that i can see things more clearly. that i have a heightened sense. Now, this is not to say that sometimes people wont have a bad trip and see things more dark than someone else, but sometimes, you can just tell.
I would look a little closer at what could be giving off the bad vibe in these similar environments to see if it might be a certain person or place or what...
Dont make it your life;s work or anything...but i am just putting this out there. no more than simply another infinate answer to the question...hell, it could be anything...

Peace and Love

 

Why not go to the beach and listen to relaxing music and just chill out as opposed to forcing acid to be ecstacy?

 

Ive always considered trance to be the best thing on acid....letting it take ahold is such an ausome fealing.... maybe trance just isnt for u....download the converting vegetarians album by infected mushroom...see if u like it..

 

Well, for a start a beach isn't always readily available

Replace beach with "field" or something, and sure. That's cool, and I go for that when the time is right, but really. Acid lasts 8 hours, there's plenty of time to do whatever I like, and if I like the music and the people, then I'm going to want to spend a few hours socialising and dancing. It's all part of a good night, imo.

It's not "forcing" anything, it's just a choice.

 

Yeah. lets pretend it's still 1975....
Seriously, psytrance is really great when tripping - I've seen the Grateful Dead many years back, had that experience - I prefer the new music. The whole experience id different and imo more liberating.

Also - hearing miusic on acid when there is none is quite common. I recall years ago hearing 'Good Vibrations' by the Beach Boys playing in my head, in every detail.

My advice would be to go to parties where there is an ambient lounge - then after dancing, you can go and chill and hear some relaxing sounds.

Or try taking it in a totally different context. Generally, a high dose of acid can be too much at a rave, esp. if you haven't got much experience with it.

Non-underground events I'd recommend in the uk - whirl-y-gig and the synergy project.

 

That reminds me a bit of my first time on acid. I'd been listening to some music in the park earlier in the day, and a friend of mine was playing his guitar in another room.

There were no other sounds around at the time so I was hearing his guitar quite clearly, and I was totally convinced that he was playing the songs that we'd been listening to earlier in the day. It wasn't like he was playing them perfectly, it was more like he was idly trying to teach himself the notes as he went along, but when I went out and complimented him on it, he said "nah.. this is my own stuff". I was pretty surprised

 

Double post.

 

Yeah. First, let's pretend that repetative music made on a computer doesn't suck. Then maybe you can remind me why I am pretending it's 1975?

 

I don't agree that electronic dance music sucks. It is imo ad.fab.
Perhaps you've never heard the right stuff at the right time.
Myself, I'm just bored to death with old music - been hearing it for way too long, and a lot of it - esp. stuff like the dead, is too cowboy really for my tastes these days.
It would be a bit sad if I was still listening to the same music I was hearing 30 odd years ago wouldn't it? Like trapped in a time warp maybe....
Still - I do listen to some rock music. But it's yesterday's news. It's repetitive if anything ever was......the idiom has been done to death, used up. All the new pop/rock is derived from what was going on in the past. None of it is very original.
But wtf - it's only music - each to his own I say. For younger folks who weren't around years ago I guess it might still sound ok.

When I first went to a rave back in the 90's my feeling was 'I've waited all my life for this'.

 

Some people wait a lifetime, for a moment like this......................

hahaha I hate that song and the stupid commercial it's on

 

Fair enough.

 

Exactly. The right music for the right moment. Nothing makes me dance like psy trance on acid, and hey, it feels good to shake your body like a maniac.

It feels good to lay down and stare into the sky too, but I wouldn't want to do either all the time.

I'll listen to about anything, but I know what I like, and why I like it. Everyone has their own tastes.

 

in a werd.... kraftwerk.

they've been putting out the experimentalism since around the time Toffler came out with Future Shock (1970)

It's awful hard not to acknowledge the influence the sequenced electronic sound has had on modern music over the past 30 years. Some people are moved by acoustic drum solos, or guitar improv... others are moved by filtered tweaky analog synthlines, frenetic break beats, or a hypnotic 4/4 kick.

look at music structure (particularly sheet music), and tell me there's no repetition.