to you dumb americans

Discussion in 'Protest' started by pukinbukin, Aug 5, 2007.

  1. pukinbukin

    pukinbukin Member

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    "The other day I was reading Newsweek magazine and came

    >across some poll data I found rather hard to believe. It must be true

    >given the source, right?
    >
    > The Newsweek poll alleges that 67 percent of Americans
    are
    >unhappy with the direction the country is headed and 69 percent of the

    >country is unhappy with the performance of the president. In essence
    2/3s
    >of the citizenry just ain't happy and want a change.
    >
    > So being the knuckle dragger I am, I started thinking,
    >''What we are so unhappy about?''
    >
    > Is it that we have electricity and running water 24
    hours a
    >day, 7 days a week? Is our unhappiness the result of having air
    >conditioning in the summer and heating in the winter? Could it be
    that
    >95.4 percent of these unhappy folks have a job? Maybe it is the
    ability to
    >walk into a grocery store at any time and see more food in moments
    than
    >Darfur has seen in the last year?
    >
    > Maybe it is the ability to drive from the Pacific Ocean
    to
    >the Atlantic Ocean without having to present identification papers as
    we
    >move through each state? Or possibly the hundreds of clean and safe
    >motels we would find along the way that can p rovide temporary
    shelter? I
    >guess having thousands of restaurants with varying cuisine from around
    the
    >world is just not good enough. Or could it be that when we wreck our
    car,
    >emergency workers show up and provide services to help all and even
    send a
    >helicopter to take you to the hospital.
    >
    > Perhaps you are one of the 70 percent of Americans who
    own a
    >home. You may be upset with knowing that in the unfortunate case of a

    >fire, a group of trained firefighters will appear in moments and use
    top
    >notch equipment to extinguish the flames thus saving you, your family
    and
    >your belongings. Or if, while at home watching one of your many flat
    >screen TVs, a burglar or prowler intrudes , an officer equipped with a
    gun
    >and a bullet-proof vest will come to defend you and your family
    against
    >attack or loss. This all in the backdrop of a neighborhood free of
    bombs
    >or militias raping and pillaging the re sidents. Neighborhoods where
    90
    >percent of teenagers own cell phones and computers.
    >
    > How about the complete religious, social and political
    >freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world? Maybe
    that
    >is what has 67 percent of you folks unhappy.
    >
    > Fact is, we are the largest group of ungrateful,
    spoiled
    >brats the world has ever seen. No wonder the world loves the U.S.,
    yet
    >has a great disdain for its citizens. They see us for what we are.
    The
    >most blessed people in the world who do nothing but complain about
    what we
    >don't have , and what we hate about the country instead of thanking
    the
    >good Lord we live here.
    >
    > I know, I know. What about the president who took us
    into
    >war and has no plan to get us out? The president who has a measly 31
    >percent approval rating? Is this the same president who guided the
    nation
    >in the dark days after 9/11? The president that cut taxes to bring an

    >economy out of recession? Could this be the same guy who has been
    called
    >every name in the book for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled
    ungrateful
    >brats safe from terrorist attacks?
    >
    > The commander in chief of an all-volunteer army that is
    out
    >there defending you and me? Did you hear how bad the President is on
    the
    >news or talk show? Did this news affect you so much, make you so
    unhappy
    >you couldn't take a look around for yourself and see all the good
    things
    >and be glad?
    >
    > Think about it......are you upset at the President
    because
    >he actually caused you personal pain OR is it because the "Media" told
    you
    >he was failing to kiss your sorry ungrateful behind ever y day.
    >
    > Make no mistake about it. The troops in Iraq and
    >Afghanistan have volunteered to serve, and in many cases may have died
    for
    >your freedom. There is currently no draft in this country. They
    didn't
    >have to go.
    >
    > They are able to refuse to go and end up with either a
    >''general'' discharge, an ''other than honorable'' discharge or,
    worst
    >case scenario, a ''dishonorable'' discharge after a few days in the
    brig.
    >
    > So why then the flat-out discontentment in the minds of
    69
    >percent of Americans? Say what you want but I blame it on the media.
    If
    >it bleeds it leads and they specialize in bad news. Everybody will
    watch a
    >car crash with blood and guts. How many will watch kids selling
    lemonade
    >at the corner? The media knows this and media outlets are for-profit
    >corporations. They offer what sells , and when criticized, try to
    defend
    >their actions by "justifying" them in one way or another. Just ask why
    they
    >tried to allow a murderer like O.J. Simpson to write a book about how
    he
    >didn't kill his wife, but if he did he would have done it this
    >way......Insane!
    >
    > Stop buying the negativism y ou are fed everyday by the

    >media. Shut off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the New York Times for
    the
    >bottom of your bird cage. Then start being grateful for all we have
    as a
    >country. There is exponentially more good than bad.
    >
    > We are among the most blessed peoples on Earth and
    should
    >thank God several times a day, or at least be thankful and
    appreciative."
     
  2. mr_alleycat

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    "Think about it......are you upset at the President because he actually caused you personal pain OR is it because the "Media" told you he was failing to kiss your sorry ungrateful behind ever y day."

    Oh?
    An interesting post we have here. Some of us are HIP to the art of projection, so spare us the BS. We are taught right, and wrong from an early age. We are also taught what this nation stands for. Which means, we do not need the "media" to tell us when Our Employees are not living upto that standard.

    "Make no mistake about it. The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have volunteered to serve, and in many cases may have died for your freedom."

    "Make no mistake", cough cough

    "There is currently no draft in this country. They didn't have to go.
    They are able to refuse to go and end up with either a ''general'' discharge, an ''other than honorable'' discharge or, worst case scenario, a ''dishonorable'' discharge after a few days in the brig."

    It doesn't matter why they die
    They do it just the same
    Asking only not to call
    When actions are insane

    Fighting wars
    For many whores
    That dwell
    In what's DC.

    On golden sand
    The oil man
    Deals freedom
    By decree

    It matters not
    Why they fought
    We all were led
    Astray

    Just like here
    Blood and tears
    For brothers
    Who wore grey

    Many rows
    Of marking stones
    Even
    Johnny Reb

    From boys in blue
    To Jackson's crew
    They Are
    Our honored dead

    mr_alleycat


    Please do not try to hijack their sacrifice.
     
  3. pocketmouse014

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    i absolutly love this post and i agree 100% and if u dont mind i wanna put it in a blog. is that ok? a blog on myspace giving u the credit for writing it, but thats exactally how i feel, but i have no idea how to get them out..
     
  4. motokop88

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    yeah go ahead pocketmouse, it was actually jay leno who wrote this letter. who woulda thought that huh? i think its very good.....an alleycat, quoting lines in this post then pasting some little poem is dumb. you only picked at little pieces of this post and then quoted it with no rebuttle. oh and so you know, i am a puprle heart recipient, i was shot in the leg in june so i have sacrificed. but you wouldnt know that so im tellin you now. why can you just relax and go with the flow, shit is fucked up and it always will be, just live with it and stop complaining
     
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  6. Magical Fire Lady

    Magical Fire Lady Senior Member

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    I am grateful to live in a place where I have the right to disagree (so far). I am very grateful that I have a house and water and food and money, yes I AM grateful. But the government is a bunch of greedy rascist misogynstic assholes. As a woman and as a supporter of equal rights for EVERYONE I am angry about that. The government doesn't care about the people. Yes America is great because we have opportunities but some things could be changed. I dislike the government and president because they don't support women or gay people or transgender people or black people or poor people and they are killing billions of people for NO GOOD REASON. And thats why I'm upset. Not because the media told me to - hah! The media lies to you! Are you joking!? When has the media actually said anything bad about the president?

    I'm grateful, but the government needs to change and give a shit about people.
     
  7. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Might be slightly interesting if it didn't look like you had cut and pasted it from an email you received.

    Our founding fathers knew that if the citizens in this country did not stay vigilant, there would be tyrants that would try to take away their rights, by promising them protections that, as being already outlined in the constitution are not theirs to sell. Don't tell me I am privileged and blessed at the same time you seek to take away my rights granted to me under the constitution.

    It's hollow, and it's a lame marketing stradegy that won't work with those of us that bother to think.

    The biggest thing this nation was ever blessed with was a constitution, which if upheld will protect their basic rights.

    This president didn't guide any of us in the "dark days" after 09/11, he used it to fullfill the agenda of republican hawiks.

    Guidance and intelligence would have built on the understanding and sympathies of the world community at that moment in time instead of pitting us against the rest of the world by going to war with a country that posed no threat. Deriding past allies like France, and running down Germany certainly made friends and built a coalition didn't it?
     
  8. pukinbukin

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    very good detective! it does look as if i cut and pasted doesnt it? yeah i got this in an email that was ulitimatly written by jay leno some time ago. and i think the point to the post isnt all about praising bush or saying anything is justified. just that people like you complain way to much and yet you live in the best place in the world. perhaps you should visit somewhere where things such as we have dont exist and then come back after... oh maybe a year or so. maybe then you will appreciate what you have and just relax and stop all this whining nonsense.
     
  9. blueburbie

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    I'd like to see Jay Leno do the same.
     
  10. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

    Strawberry_Fields_Fo RN

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    God, are you serious??

    For the record, I've been to Tanzania, South Africa, and Mexico (Guadalajara, not just border towns), among other places, so yeah, I've seen how other people live.

    I just think it's bullshit that you (or whoever wrote that) think that happiness is based on such external factors. Maybe they don't like the way the values of this country have gone from freedom-loving to fox-news-humping. Maybe they don't like all the greed, the fear-mongering, the oppression of the poor (the american poor--they do exist you know).

    And I really fucking hate it when people suggest we go to ANOTHER country to see the third world. Excuse me, but have you ever been on an INDIAN RESERVATION? Have you ever been to the Mississippi delta region? Hell, have you ever been to the Bayview/Hunters Point neighborhood of San Francisco? (a supposedly wealthy city). You're an idiot if you think poverty only exists in Africa (and btw, don't you think it's insulting to the Africans to always use them as the worst possible example of everything?)

    I don't remember anyone complaining about having electricity all the time. I think they're complaining more about silly things--like the loss of habius corpus, the loss of the right to privacy, the loss of the right to vote (the company which produces all the voting machines is owned by staunch conservatives and it has already been shown they are easily hacked into). You know, petty stuff.
     
  11. oldfart

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    I think I'm in love.... You hit the nail on the head

     
  12. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    I find much irony in the misuse of statistics here; either it is pure ignorance or a hilariously bad manipulation in an "article" decrying the manipulation of the media.

    I'll give you a hint - a 4.5 percent unemployment rate doesn't mean that 94.6 percent of people have jobs.
     
  13. zen_arcade

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    this thread has to be the dumbest thing I've ever read, and it makes Jay Leno into more of an imbecile than I would have thought possible. I won't even bother with a retort, because to engage in debate with retarded people is below my standards.
     
  14. motokop88

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    i dont remember africa being singled out for anything. and i dont need to be lectured about poverty or jobless shit by anyone. ive been there and ive come out of it. anyone can do it, it is their choice to be there. maybe if they quit working at burger king and put the crack pipe down, and go to school and make something of themself there wouldnt be anything to bitch about. but the other way to look at it, is this country needs poor people, who is gonna pick the fields, do our landscaping, work in the grimey factories to make us the things we dont need like computers for one example. i think this thread was to try to get people to realized the good in this country instead of always focusing on negative shit. seriously, when was the last time one of said something good about anything?
     
  15. motokop88

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    oh yeah and i think you meant 'native american' reservation right? yeah well every where i go i see fuckin casinos. so those bastards are makin out ok so dont bring that shit up. and strawbery you have been to some places that sounds like a place to take a vacation! are YOU serious? ive traveled the world as well. perhaps now that you know im in the army you will hate me even more right?!?!
     
  16. motokop88

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    i also find it interesting that the 'american poor' is always referred to as 'they'. seems like not many of you have been there. but i know now that i have said that you all will claim to be poor.
     
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    i also find it interesting that the 'american poor' is always referred to as 'they'. seems like not many of you have been there. but i know now that i have said that you all will claim to be poor.
     
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    i also find it interesting that the 'american poor' is always referred to as 'they'. seems like not many of you have been there. but i know now that i have said that you all will claim to be poor.
     
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    I find it interesting that apparently Americans are the only people in the world who have electricity and running water, and that not agreeing with the government on certain issues somehow makes me ungrateful regarding completely unrelated issues.
     
  20. oldfart

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    I have met PLENTY of spoiled americans, I have also met PLENTY of Americans in need. People who dont have a home or a bed to sleep in or a regular meal. Veterans, children - people who gave of themselves in order to protect/serve. The children who havent had the chance to develop and prosper. Just people, people who havent had a fair chance, but deserve it.

    NOT ALL POOR ARE LAZY CRACKHEADS MOTOKOP88 AND NOT ALL POOR HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET OUT OF A BAD SITIUATION WITHOUT HELP...​

    As far as your military status - dont hide behind that uniform. your opinions are yours not the Army's soldier. OLDFART = Former high speed low drag teflon coated iron balled bad ass.... 1/101st - HOOAH!​

    No one here will ever judge you for your service and if they do - well I'll whoop em for ya- be safe, come home.​
     

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