thinking of going on suboxone.......

im tired of the hustle and grind of these pills....they dont work like they used too, im tired of running short and having to get extra or limp by on 2,3,4 a day, so maybe its time to go i diff route.....the one dr i see does subs, but im not sure i want him to know i have a "problem", i think id be more comfortable seeing a new doc!!!!!! just been on my mind for a bit.....dunno...????

 

you feel subs will target pain more?... I can just imagine what some people go thru.. I have this stupid MS shit and funny phantom pain all over my right side.... usually I dont rely on the pills unless I feel like Im going to die. This is occasionally so. but I take the oxy and the pain laughs at me more..

 

not really target pain more, i will most likely have a Rx laying around, lol, but maybe its just time to deal with it.......or take a break and maybe lower dosage, dunno......but i failed to mention that im looking at having 2 surgeries on my legs dunno how invasive they are gonna be, i will find out on the 15th..

 

Lets do it together. And btw PC you dont have a problem bro, you like 1000s of others have run the course on what works for you as far as pain, I completely agree its time to Get on subs, starting at a dose that works for you/me. Dont get a starting dose less than what you can get by with, you can always taper, get the dose down to where youre on 2-3Mgs/day, then you could jump off depending on your pain level or restart the opiates for pain management. But Im with ya and Im ready big time.....!

 

It would be a long time before you could just "restart" pain management after taking subs. Your tolerance takes a long time to lower. and being on subs it lowers very very very very SLOWLY. IF you planning to go on subs just plan on either using them when you don't have pain meds or jsut getting completely off everything for good. Their is no going on it for a while then going back. you will just start back up where you left off. i PROMISE!

 

Feel free to PM me as obviously, I am the most vocal member here on Suboxone Maintenance. The doctor I see now accepts that I take the drug for anti-depressant properties and no longer for any sort of dependence. The doctors are pretty open minded to what the drug is used for. I was never, once made to seem like a 'dirty addict'. The doctor understood that I simply found (by chance of being given mild opioids for migraines) that opioids helped my Bipolar Schiz. Disorder more than the other meds. He acknowledged that it is a new, up-and-coming field of research and never spoke of my 'addiction' ever again.

I also find that the drug has the superior property of very slow tolerance build up. I went from 6mg/day to 8mg/day in the course of 6 months. And, like I vocally advocate, in the last month, I have dropped down to (about) 5mg/day by using Magnesium and Agmatine supplementation. I still find intense euphoria in the drug, and it provides strong analgesia, which I know because I take an extra 2mg or so if I get a migraine and it works just as well as any other opioid I have taken (including Oxycodone a handful of times...).

Please weigh things logically and I encourage you to PM me to learn more about my amazing journey with, what I consider, a superior drug for all sorts of ailments!

 

I don't completely disagree with you, its porbably nothing more than a numbers game and you're absolutely right, being on subs isnt gonna reduce your tollerance that much, but speaking for myself, i plan to jump off altogether. Its really going to depend on my daily pain levels as to if and when I get back on. But I also feel in order for Subs to work for me, I have to find the dose that I can take in the morning, and not take anything else till my dose the next morning. If I get on subs and have to dose more than once a day, it's gonna be harder for me to get off and stay off.

As for PC, I don't really know what his pain levels are and what he can and cannot live with. He may just be looking to slightly lower his tollerance, not sure what he looking for as far as his roxy/opana and the levels he wants to get down to from where hes at now. He, however, doesnt seem to be talking about quitting altogether. I think hes also looking into adding magnesium to his pill diet to aid in lowering his tollerance.

 

Ya i wish their was better options for long term pain patients. A drug that didn't make you dependent and slowly become useless in the process. I am a strong advocate of suboxone but i was just an "addict" a very well functioning addict because i caught my disease after only a year and a half. I never had to deal with being in constant pain day to day and trying to find something that will finally ease the pain. I wish you both the best of luck. But i honestly think with the levels you guys are at. Just solely using suboxone would put you in a lot of pain at first. It really isn't the best pain reliever in my opinion. etkearne may have a differing opinion but he was only addicted to tramadol. Not saying thats bad or anything but oxy and opana is a whole diff ball game.

 

Ive yet to try Subs. The only maintenance drug ive taken was Done, but not for that reason. Honestly, that stuff was great for pain, put me in an unbelivable mood, I could do pretty much anything. I know the differences between the two, but i cant see how Subs doesnt relieve some pain, not all but some right? I never got high off of Done persay, but the way I felt on it, id trade that feeling for roxys and Opana any day!! The reason I stopped taking Done was due to the horror stories about getting addicted to it, and how long its legs are. Id hate to be on it and have to withdraw. Im sure Subs can be as brutal, but I just feel if used as perscribed, I may have a better chance of getting off.

 

well im glad that i have created a nice little discussion here!!!!!! First let me start by saying thanks to ETK for the message, i will do that if i need to, thanks!!!!! and sorry i havent replied to ur PM, i just got it the other day!!!

Bottle, when u mentioned it in that earlier post about going on them, that really got me thinking about it, lol to be honest.

so i did some calling today, there are about 6 dr's in my area that do subs, the one i called didnt take insurance up front, i would have to get reimbursed, which is a hassle, im still waiting for my reimbursement for the rx's that i postd on here that was like 600 bucks, lol, he required 300 up front every visit, unlimited visits per month, which just sounds to me that is just away to justify the 300......plus the rx on top that........


the second place i called took 125 dollar payment up front just incase insurance didnt cover it....u go one week, then two weeks, then 3, then 4, urine sample up front every visit.....ehhhhh, lol.......she stated that the drs want u to be up front with them and honest, and there are not going to be problems, so if i did piss dirty, i dont see it being a problem......as im not really a user parsay, but have been on meds because of surgery and such.....but appointments were 3 weeks out......

so it was a productive day, i was able to slide my pain management appt back 3days so i wont be that short on meds, and i found, lol 10 15s so i should be good till the weekend with that and what i have left.......till i can find some more.......

thanks for everyone posting on the topic, we are more than just pill popping junkies, lol, there are real issues to be discussed, real problems, not just shootin pills, lol, i just feel sometimes when u get the straggler in here that bad mouths us, or knocks us, or opiates, they have given me my best and worst days.....from driving 3 hours for football playoffs and standing recording a game/working the chains, to puking and shitting my ass off, lol!!!!!!

look forward to more discussion!!!

 

i can also relate to the power of Opana, after running out, but still having a bunch of 10 and 15mg left, even on about 50 to 60 mgs a day, i still had some minor w/d sympotms which sucks, lol, this is really the first time this has happend, but i did go through 60 20mg and 60 10 mgs in under a month, so someone had a little party this month......and now im paying for it, like they say.......

 

I hear ya bro. Other than having a strong desire to find some way to deal with my chronic pain that doesnt involve Opiates, Im also tired of worrying about end of month holding out so as not to get sick and have my two scripts 15 days apart which makes me take more of whatever med I happen to have scripted last. This set up has me taking each script in 15 days or less, just sick of it really! So when I go in to see him, which is monday, unless he works with me to sync up the two scripts I will find a Sub Dr and start working with him.

 

Just a forewarning on sub docs. Go to one that has a sec. and takes insurance up front at the begginning. I first had a sub doc who said i was going ot get reimbursed after visits. But i never saw a single check from my insurance. So he just kept the money and act like he sent it into claims when he reallly didn't. So beware of that. YOu should be able to find a doc that will only have to see you once a month or once every two months and some only require a few random samples. My first doc required none.

 

I have my care (all encompasing) taken care of by a Private Medical Group. Along with my primary care Dr, this groups encompasses just about every specialist needed. Along with that, there are two Sub Drs associated with the group. The group does take my insurance. Question is, does my insurance cover it.

 

My insurance doesn't cover the Suboxone program, so it is very pricey. However, I don't mind, because that means that none of it goes on my medical permanent record. It is like it never even happens (in the eyes of my insurance company, family doctor, and my psychiatrist) which I like. There is a stigma about Suboxone, and I don't just take it because I am addicted to opioids, which you all know by now. So, to avoid the hassle, I just reluctantly pay for it out of pocket.

 

Yeah but my state is about to put the Prescription drug monitoring program online soon so as far as paying for it, that trick will be obselete pretty soon. But I just looked up Bupe on my insurances web site and it is covered. I can get up to a 90 day supply for $9.00. Woohoo!

 

Florida sucks! That is such a shame that all of the losers who blatantly abused the system (like good old Rush Limbaugh) ruined any chance for confidentiality and humane privacy for the rest of you.

 

I agree with you guys, im tired of messing with oxy, running out early, constantly chasing the high. It seems like my whole life revolves around it, in fact I wake up 30 minutes early just to do a line or pill to get my but out of bed. Kinda ridiculas really

 

True enough!!!!!

 

I've been on Suboxone for 3 months now. It has saved my life, and that is no exaggeration. My insurance doesn't cover it, so it is rather expensive. After an 8 year problem, I finally gave in and went on the program, and so far, so awesome.