Theory of Gravity

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by sunyatasamsara, Jun 27, 2008.

  1. sunyatasamsara

    sunyatasamsara Member

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    i dont think gravity exists because the presents of matter. i think gravity causes the presents of matter, the exact opposite.:eek: We all know that physicist found that all matter is really vibration but what is the vibration, is it a something?
     
  2. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    LOL. good one.

    But seriously, how can gravity cause matter? Read your second sentence. There's your answer. Matter(mass) is really vibration, and vibration is energy. This is proven by Einstein's special relativity, E=mc^2, or Energy equals mass times the speed of light squared. The speed of light is constant, so practically, energy equals mass.
     
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  4. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    lol Jeth, you didnt understand my explanation? I could evaluate further if you'd like.
     
  5. CanniEvergrow

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    Id like to hear more Kilo! If you enjoy talkin bout this stuff I shure do enjoy listenin. Please elaborate but remember I only got to the 18th grade, - thats 9th grade 2wice! My favorite subject was science.
     
  6. Elijah

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    simple observation tells us just what isaac newton told us. what goes up must come down. we can't see gravity, but we can certainly see it's effects.
     
  7. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    gravity is just the natural curvature of space. You dont have to imagine gravity as some mystical force of rope-like energy pulling toward something. You are just a stationary spherical object flowing in the curvature of the space around you.

    the same way you put a bowling ball in the center of a trampoline, which would bend the trampoline into a bowl-like shape, is the gravity that "pulls" a tennis ball toward the bowling ball in the center placed on the trampoline. It is just following the natural path of the space around it.

    I gotta bust a quick mission and I' ll come back and explain the energy-mass equivalence.
     
  8. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    And now to the mass-energy equilavence, which is the focus of your question.

    First we start with the famous equation, [​IMG]

    E stands for energy, m for mass, and c for the velocity of light in a vacuum, which is approximately 186,000 miles/second. and c squared is just c times itself, or c times c.

    Albert Einstein proved this equation relating Energy and mass, and if you want to know the derivation (or how he proved it), heres a small outline in the next two posts.
     
  9. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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  10. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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  11. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    And the way that is proven is the reason nuclear bombs work. What better way do would anyone want proof?
     
  12. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    and just to add, im drunk, high and barred out as I type this lol..
     
  13. sunyatasamsara

    sunyatasamsara Member

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    im saying what if the curvature of space time is energy, not the presents of energy that curves space time. i read somewhere that a scientist was asked why does anything exist and he said it is because nothingness is unstable.
     
  14. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    thats pseudoscience my friend. or atleast in the realm of philosophy.

    "what if the curvature of space is energy?"

    its not bro. Its been proven by the great Einstein that energy/mass causes the curvature of space. Its its quite obvious too I might add. The curvature of space is just Riemannian manifolds, and energy/mass is objects placed on the manifolds which cause to to bend.
     
  15. sunyatasamsara

    sunyatasamsara Member

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    could you define energy? what is it?
     
  16. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    Please stop saying 'presents', it is quite a different word to 'presence'.

    The problem with the curved space explaination is that you need gravity of the real world to explain why the tennis ball sinks toward the bowling ball on the trampoline.

    There seem to be a few constants of the universe - matter attracts matter. I dont think that this must be explained, it can simply be the quality of matter. Ie, the universe is more stable if mass is dispersed across less space, thus we have gravity - the tendancy of the universe towards stability in the absence of sufficient instability. (eg an explosion forcing matter far away from its original position)
     
  17. WaterBreather

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    I have to correct your spelling and grammar, please excuse me.

    Good question.

    Matter and gravity are two sides of the same coin. You cannot have one without the other. So neither causes the other. The vibration you talk of is essentially energy.

    When you look at a picture of an object on a computer screen, the program that generates it may make that object A) appear, or it may make that object B) move. Essentially the underlying structure of the program is all 1's and 0's. (Or computer code). In a similar way, the underlying structure of all matter and gravity, is energy: vibration.

    Try download a solar system simulator game sometime to see it all working.

    ;-j
     
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