The world will not 'end' till the sun explodes

DUH

End of worlders are just as screwed up as catholics
Sorry but the end of the world is not some crapshoot
prophesy.
In 4 billion years or so. It ends when the sun goes red giant.
This will turn the earth into a sterile rock like the moon.

But. If you are talking about the end of the HUMAN world.
well, that is different...WE could easily end, wouldnt harm the biosphere though.
Life would continue. It always does, through far worse disaster than we could ever produce.
95% of all the species that have ever been ,, are gone.
For every species existing today, 50 have perished.
[there are 10 million + today so 500 million species have perished..]

Please.. dont call the end of us the end of the world.
That is blind foolish arrogance. We, are just one more species
on a list.

Occam

 

So we should just forget about the asteroid that’s projected to arrive in 2029, and miss earth by a mere 22,000 miles. well thanks, that's makes me feel a lot better

Hotwater

 

yes, you are right. but it's just sort of implied that "the end" is referring to humankind. We are not as dumb as you make us out to be. There are plenty of experssions out there that don't mean what they spell out literally.

And no, no asteroid could end the earth. The sun will.

 

as a nonhuman i find exremely annoying the endlessly implied inanity of arogant anthropocentrism that the hooman species is somehow the beggining or end of ANYthing other then itself.

nonhuman? ok, i walk arround in just as human a body as anyone on these forums.
and yes, i am, as far as i know, the only awairness ever to occupy it.

still i aggree to disagree with anyone who insists my awairness is somehow a product of this body and not merely a dweller within it.

i have my reasons for this feeling. reasons that appear very much to be memories.

at any rate i very much second occum's points here.
the rest of the universe has its own reasons for existing.

whatever nontangable forces and beings may also exist,
whatever THEIR intentions and motivations might be,
(and i defy anyone to offer verifiable evidence of the accuracy of their, or any, perceptions of what those intentions and motivations might be),
the very big and very long time (of a scale beyond the expressed comprehension of any known theology) real tangable universe that surrounds us
neither exists for our convenience, nor solely for any reason having anything to do
with 'our' 'human' species.

we can, however enjoy its existence while we have the capacity by tangably living to do so, and likewise avoid messing up the potential for others to do so.

there are other and better things to concern ourselves with, then expecting to be entertained by the heat death of the universe. (something it is highly unlikely our species will be arround to witness anyway, its advent being somewhat remote, if it is even to occur at all)

like the experiencial qualities of our existence and the conditions under which each and all of us do, and in particular the mechanism(s) by which we actualy (jointly) mold the probability of those conditions.

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I agree with Themnax,

The human species is not even close to being the essense of the beginning or the end of the world.

This is the human's greatest mistake... to think that we are superior to anything on this earth and to each other.

 

Occam suggest we get off our asses and put a few human eggs outside the basket called earth.

AN asteroid MAY blast the crap out of us.
And yes, the world would roll on,, but we would not.

Having all the eggs in one basket and doing nothing to change that.
Keeping them all here.
Is sheer stupidity

There is a HUGE universe out there.. lets go explore it.

Occam

 

i'm all for exploring. i think it's our nature to do so. but i also think, before we start even thinking about 'terraforming' elsewhere, we're gonna have to learn to stop 'marsiforming' the earth we've already got.

every world we find in other solar systems that supports life, 99 and as many 9s the other side of the decimal as you care to write, is going to have an atmospher only the life of that world is going to be able to breathe.

colonizing our own solar system still presents the challange of launching self sustaining ecosystems, something we have yet to take a long enough and broad enough view to even begin to have succeeded at. there have been, of course, a few notable projects in the direction of such developments. but as far as i know, none of them ever reached the tipping point to become perminently self sustaining.

there's no way we're going to be able to put enough of our own species in "another basket" then the one we currently occupy, to viably self sustain our own species itself, untill we come up with a way of solving that. even if and when we are able to lift enough of us out of earth's gravity well in such a way that doing so in mass numbers becomes practicly doable.

we do need to be doing more about getting out there and seeing how what's out there works. we need this because not doing so is stiffling our inhierent nature and hurting all of us.

it was, after all, the race to the moon, all these decades ago, that ultimately gave us these personal computers and this internet, via an inderect chain of need and incentive and so on, that i don't think very many people today understand or realize.

but still space is costly. the plus side is that of course getting out there, getting more people involved, even as spectators, will, almost certainly as it did then, clear some of the cobwebs out of our heads about what we are doing wrong back here on earth, to it and to ourselves.

so for both of these reasons i thoroughly support the idea of further space exploration, and perhapse even some degree of 'development'. but i don't see a practical opportunity there any time soon as a means of putting our eggs in more then this one basket.

everyone on the planet could eat regular and go to a decent school and still have enogh change left over to send people and machines to at least the other rocks that circle our sun, for what is being thrown away on gratuitous 'wars' and wars.

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