What the hell is up with Masonry? I know some people who are involved with it and have asked them what its about, i get the same response "Were just a mens organization that does charity work" then the subject is completely changed. I'm not sure if this is the best forum for it, but I'd really appreciate some information.. its just so secretive, almost like they know something thats really really important and arent letting us in on it. I get a really bad vibe just thinking about it.
he means the Masons. its an organization for men that does service work. hahaha. thats really how people talk about it. i was part of the "masonic family." they have different sections so to say. masons are for men. eastern star is for both men and women. you need to be over 18/21 to join either. also to join eastern star you need to have family that are in the masons....or close friends! (though people can often find ways around it.) the children also have their own sections. The international order of rainbow for girls and the boys have DeMolay. the ages are 11~21ish. i think its different between rainbows and demolays. the masonic family is religiously based; christianity and very patriotic. that catholic church is very against the masons...not sure why!!! there are stric dresscodes for all branches. the men and boys in suits and the women in gown like dresses. theres ritualistic work for different ceremonies and meetings. not all the work is secret, but alot is. i was part of the rainbow girls from 12 until about 17. i'm not a religious person and didn't like the secretive ways so i got away from it. if you have any questions about the masonic family feel free to pm or IM me RockinChik423. i know more about the childrens organizations, but it may explain sum of the mystery behind the masons...
I doubt they have any earth-shattering secrets. They're basically just a fraternity for people past the college age.
http://illuminati-news.com/moriah.htm The secret societies, controlled by the Illuminati, have secret grades of initiations - a pyramid structure where people on one level of the pyramid do not know what the people on the level above them know. In Freemasonry you can't just become a member; you have to be recommended by at least two persons who are already members, and the applicant should be examined of his record before he is able to join. If only one person in the council says no to membership, the suggested person will not be initiated. Each person is very carefully examined to determine if the Brotherhood may have any use for him. That doesn't mean that they are selecting only "bad" people; quite the opposite: Officially most societies are charity organizations. This, and the propaganda that organizations like the Freemasons are Christian, is why most people join. These organizations are instead extremely esoteric with secret grades of initiations, where each member has sworn loyalty foremost to the Brotherhood. This means that if this person has a specific post in society (like being President for example), his first loyalty is to the Brotherhood and second to his post as President. So he has in fact double loyalties. A Brother in good standing should always be protected and cared for, as long as he is useful to the organization and follows its' rules. If he fails or doesn't keep the secrets, he will be made a horrible example of (sometimes even killed). It is extremely important that the secrets are kept. If not, the Brotherhood loses its power over the people and the whole pyramid falls apart. The Illuminati are terrified to be revealed; afraid that the public will kill them in fury when they find out about their crimes. Many Freemasons on the lower grades are actually very pleased to being members. It is a tight "belonging-feeling" and they will learn a few secrets of this universe, which are not taught in school, and they are often enthusiastic and fascinated. One Freemason said: "Beside my wife, Freemasonry is the most important thing in my life ..." His wife, by the way, must never know anything about what her husband is doing within the society, as it is supposed to be kept secret, and women most often are not allowed into the societies (however, there ARE a few societies especially for women, like the Freemasonic "Eastern Star"). One can then speculate in how come that women are treated as being of lesser value in the society than men, with lower wages for the same job etc. It's a man's world - it's the world of the man dominated Secret Societies. With the purpose to create a positive front, the Brotherhood is very eager to recruit good people (celebrities and people in positions where they are admired by the population in general are extremely valuable to recruit) to speak good of the cult and defend it when necessary. And the less those people know about the real agenda, the more truthful this person will sound in his defense of the organization. This also goes for religious cults of any sort, as they too are connected to the network of secret societies in one way or the other. With time, some of the members (but far from everyone) will enter higher and higher grades within the secret society, until they reach the upper, significant levels. But up there, a very careful selection takes place. Before entering the upper grades in the cult, a Brother of a higher level asks the apprentice to spit on the Christian cross. If the person refuses due to his Christian belief, the higher initiated Brother tells him he did the right thing and has showed his loyalty to his religion. But that person will never be admitted into the highest grades. He will always be met with excuses from the council why he can't continue. On the other hand, if the person does spit on the cross, he is showing his loyalty to the Brotherhood instead, and is considered trustworthy enough to be admitted to continue up the grade chart. He will now have access to the "secret libraries", where the wisdom from long gone ages are gathered, and he is allowed to take part of it and the magic rituals. He will be more and more involved in Black Magic/Satanism and prepared for the "Big secrets", which among others are the following: 1. The secret society is in communication with alien life-forms, which are the real powers behind the society. This may be beings from another dimension, or Satan and his demons - perhaps the two are the same. 2. The purpose with the society is to create a One World Government with them in charge over mankind, but above them in the Hierarchy is the Luciferian, "alien" force. 3. The way to control the masses is through mind control and occult, satanic power, used with the intent to manipulate. This also means that the occult idea of reality will be planted into the society through Media, music, Hollywood and otherwise (currently happening on a daily basis). 4. The reward will be power and money, in exchange for selling the soul to the above forces (click here to find out how Black Magic is practiced, written by Manly P. Hall, a famous 33° Freemason). Demons will possess the practitioner and help him accomplish his goals, but the bargain is that the Demon owns his soul after physical death (a high price to pay for "success"). In 1922 Lucifer's Trust was created in London, but later changed its name to Luci's Trust, as the first name was too obvious. The Trust is non-governmental and officially recognized by the United Nations. It is also an extension of the Theosophical Society, another secret society which influenced Adolf Hitler in developing his doctrine about the Arian Super Race. Luci's Trust is sponsored by among others the Satanist Robert McNamara, former minister of Defense in the USA, president of the World Bank, member of the Rockefeller Foundation, and Thomas Watson (IBM, former ambassador in Moscow). Luci's trust sponsors, among others, are the following front organizations: United Nations, Greenpeace Int., Greenpeace USA, Amnesty Int., UNICEF. Luci's Trust has its only "religious" chapel, the Temple of Understanding, where Satanism is practiced, in the UN headquarter in New York1. Interesting is the fact that Luci's Trust openly declares that a secretive group of illuminated, New Age notables is now running the planet from behind the scene
http://illuminati-news.com/moriah.htm Below is proof coming directly from the horse's mouth that Freemasonry is not a Christian organization, in spite of what their lower grade members think, and the higher grade members say. These quotes are taken from the works of Manly P. Hall, who was a famous 33° Freemason, and frequently read especially on the higher echelons of Freemasonry; Albert Pike, the icon of Freemasonry, also he a 33°, who wrote the book "Morals and Dogma"; and a few other significant sources: Manly P. Hall: "Man is a god in the making. And as the mystic myths of Egypt, on the potter's wheel, he is being molded. When his light shines out to lift and preserve all things, he receives the triple crown of godhood." (Manly P. Hall, The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, p. 92) "European mysticism was not dead at the time the United States of America was founded. The hand of the mysteries controlled in the establishment of the new government for the signature of the mysteries may still be seen on the Great Seal of the United states of America. Careful analysis of the seal discloses a mass of occult and Masonic symbols chief among them, the so-called American Eagle. ... the American eagle upon the Great Seal is but a conventionalised phoenix..." "Not only were many of the founders of the United States government Masons, but they received aid from a secret and august body existing in Europe which helped them to establish this country for A PECULIAR AND PARTICULAR PURPOSE known only to the initiated few." (Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages, pp. XC and XCI) * * * "Masonry makes no profession of Christianity.. but looks forward to the time when the labor of our ancient brethren shall be symbolized by the erection of a spiritual temple.. in which there shall be but one altar and one worship; one common altar of Masonry on which the Veda, Shatra, Sade, Zeda-Avesta, Koran and the Holy Bible shall at who's shrine the Hindu, the Persian, the Assyrian, the Chaldean, the Egyptian, the Chinese, the Mohammedan, the Jew and the Christian may kneel." [ "The Kentucky Monitor" Fellowcraft Degree p. 95 ] ".... the literal meaning (of the Bible) is for the vulgar only." [Albert Pike "Digest of Morals and Dogma," p. 166 ] "What is True to the philosopher, would not be truth, nor have the effect of truth, to the peasant. The religion of many must necessarily be more incorrect than that of the refined and reflected few.. The truest religion would in many points , not be comprehended by the ignorant.. The doctrines of the Bible are often not clothed in the language of strict truth, but in that which was fittest to convey to a rude and ignorant people.. the doctrine." [ Albert Pike "Morals and Dogma," 14th Degree, p. 224 ] "The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahweh reversed; for Satan is not a black god.. for the initiates this is not a Person, but a force, created for good, but which may serve for evil. It is the instrument of liberty and free will." [ Albert Pike "Morals and Dogma," Master Mason / 3rd Degree p. 102 ] "Masonry is a search for light. That light. That search leads us back, as you see, to the Kabala. In that ancient and little understood (source book) the infinite will find the source of many doctrines; and (he) may in time come to understand the Hermetic philosophers, the Alchemists, all the Anti-papal Thinkers of the Middle Ages, and Emanuel Swedenborg." [ Albert Pike "Morals and Dogma," 28th Degree p. 741 ] "All truly dogmatic religions have issued from the Kabala and return to it; everything scientific and grand in the religious dreams of the Illuminati, Jacob Boeheme, Swedenborg, Saint Martin, and others is borrowed from the Kabala; all Masonic associations owe to it their secrets and their symbols." [ Albert Pike "Morals and Dogma," 28th Degree p. 747 ] "Though Masonry is identical with the ancient Mysteries, it is so only in this qualified sense: that it presents but an imperfect image of their brilliancy, the ruins of their grandeur .." [ Albert Pike "Morals and Dogma Fellowcraft Degree p.22 ] "Masonry, successor to the Mysteries (Babel, Mythras, Tummuz, Whicka,etc.) still follows the ancient manor of teaching." [ Albert Pike "Morals and Dogma Fellowcraft Degree p.22 ] "These two divinities (Sun and Moon, Osiris and Isis, etc) were commonly symbolized by the generative parts of a man and a woman; to which in remote ages no idea of indecency was attached ; the Phallus (penis) and the Cteis (vagina), emblems of generation and production, and which, as such appeared in the Mysteries (I believe Masonry is the revival of these). The Indian Lingam was the union of both, as were the boat and mast and the point within the circle." (key Masonic symbols) [ Albert Pike "Morals and Dogma," 24th Degree, p. 401 ] "If your wife child, or friend should ask you anything about your invitation - as for instance, if your clothes were taken off, if you were blind folded, if you had a rope tied around you neck, etc, you must conceal.. hence of course you must deliberately lie about it. It is part of your obligation .. " [ Ibid p. 74 ] Question: "what makes you a Freemason ? Answer: My obligation." [question and answer from the Entered Apprentice/First Degree] ".. binding myself under no less penalty that of having throat cut from ear to ear, my tongue torn out by its roots, and my body buried in the rough sands of the sea, a cable length from the shore where the tide.." [ from the oath of obligation Entered Apprentice/First Degree ] ".. binding myself under no less penalty than having my left Breast torn open, my heart plucked out, and given to the beasts of the field and fowls of the air as prey." [from the oath of obligation , Fellowcraft/Second Degree] ".. binding myself under no less penalty that of having my body severed in twain, my bowels taken out and burned to ashes, the ashes scattered to the four winds of heaven.." [ from the oath of obligation, Master Mason / Third Degree ] " .. in willful violation whereof may I incur the fearful penalty of having my eyeballs pierced to thru center with a three edged blade, my feet flayed and forced to walk the hot sands upon the sterile shores of the red sea until the flaming Sun shall strike with a livid plague, and my Allah the god of Arab, Moslem and Mohammedan, the god of our fathers, support me to the entire fulfillment of the same." [ from the oath of obligation, Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine ] ("Shriners") "You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Masons... and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him.. It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but your keeping your obligations." [ Ronayne, "Handbook of Masonry" p. 183 ] "We shall unleash the Nihilists and atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirit will from that moment be without a compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the pure light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." -Albert Pike, on a plan for world conquest, written in a letter to Mazzini dated August 15, 1871. "..Thirty-third degree Freemason Albert Pike (1809-1891), the man destined to develop the Luciferian Doctrine for the Masonic hierarchy, could not accept the Lucifer and Satan were the same personality. While teaching his beliefs to a select few in the Supreme Council, Pike became the most powerful Mason in the world. Although an obscure general in the Confederate Army during the American Civil War, he was hardly inconspicuous in Freemasonry. From 1859 until his death in 1891, Pike occupied simultaneously the positions of Grand Master of the Central Directory at Washington, D.C., Grand Commander of the Supreme Council at Charleston, S.C., and Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry. He was an honorary member of almost every Supreme Council in the world, personally receiving 130 Masonic degrees. Pike also was one of the most physically and morally repulsive individuals in American history. Weighing well over three hundred pounds, his sexual proclivity was to sit naked astride a phallic throne in the woods, accompanied by a gang of prostitutes. To these orgies he would bring one or more wagon loads of food and liquor, most of which he would consume over a period of two days until he passed into a stupor. In his adopted state of Arkansas, Pike was well known as a practitioner of Satanism, Portraits of his later years show him wearing a symbol of the Baphomet around his neck." -Scarlet and the Beast, John Daniel, vol 1 "Masonry gives rogues and evil-minded characters an opportunity of visiting upon their devoted victim, all the ills attending combined power, when exerted to accomplish destruction. It works unseen, at all silent hours, and secret times and places; and, like death when summoning his diseases, pounces upon its devoted subject, and lays him prostrate in the dust. Like the great enemy of man, it has shown its cloven foot, and put the public upon its guard against its secret machinations." -CAPT. WM. MORGAN'S ILLUSTRATIONS OF MASONRY, 1827. "Membership of secret societies such as freemasonry can raise suspicions of a lack of impartiality or objectivity. It is therefore important the public know the facts. I think it is the case that the freemasons said they are not a secret society but a society with secrets. I think it is widely accepted that one secret they should not be keeping is who their members are in the criminal justice system." - Home Secretary Jack Straw, 1997 Home Affairs Committee England "It is generally agreed that the biggest single influence in the modern expansion of ritual magic, and the occult explosion in general, in the Western world, was the Golden Dawn. This magical fraternity, founded by Freemasons at the end of the 19th century, developed a complex ritual system with ten degrees of initiation relating to the Cabalistic Sephiroth." (World renown witches, Janet and Stewart Farrar, authors of A Witches Bible Complete) - Janet and Stewart Farrar, The Life and Times of A Modern Witch, Phoenix Publishing Company, p. 121(2). The reason good intended people stay members of such destructive organizations is probably because of its non-democratic structure and chain of commands. The lower-grade Brother is not entitled to know what is on the grade above and curiosity drives him into the mystic. Also, the discipline and secrecy is very strict and punishment can be severe if one fails to comply. In this manner the very few evil men at the top can control the many innocent and ignorant people below. It is probably that simple, and of course a basic form of mind control. Any religious cult works in the same manner and has a similar structure. It was Socrates (an illuminatus) who came up with the idea of Democracy. Personally I am not sure that democracy is the best option for a society. It has always showed to fail, as it requires political involvement from the public, who is the real power. Groups of people have shown to be easily manipulated and controlled throughout history and made to believe they live in a democracy when in fact the real power has covertly changed to the favor of the politicians (or rather those who pull the strings on the politicians). The true definition of democracy is when politicians are elected and employed by the people to achieve the needs and goals of common man. The true meaning of Democracy seems to have been buried and forgotten. The United Nations is nothing else but the World police for the Illuminati, founded to be able to step in and take military control over a country or a region which is countering the Agenda. Don't think it is a coincidence that the Temple of Understanding is positioned in the UN headquarters. Socialism is the political system the Black Order uses to enslave the people on Earth. The red banner is the private symbol of their biggest sponsors - the Rothschild's - and is actually their family-banner. You can see the red banner swaying from the top of their big mansion. This family has since the 1700's worked on bringing about socialism. The banker Meyer Amschel Rothschild (1743-1812) was the first member of this family who worked for, and financed it. Today the Rothschild's own the F-U Central bank, but few people know that many of the European Banks were founded by the Rothschild's and owned by them. Central banks is a basic thesis for the upcoming of socialism. The Rothschild's have invested plenty of money into the Environmental Movement to counter the nuclear-power industry, which wanted to build up its own free energy through nuclear power. National independency and sovereignty are things the Illuminati are up against. And when the oil resources come to an end, the nuclear power will replace the oil, and therefore the Rothschild's have bought 80% of the world assets of Uranium. This way they will have world control over energy, which means it will never be free ...
i don't know.....i've heard all sorts of crazy myths about those masons....i see those pyramid eye symbol things and the stars and i start thinking trouble....in fact there's an old masonic temple in my city and every place that tries to open up there goes out of business and tells ghost stories.....coincidence? i think not
Masonry is not what most people think it is. All one has to do is read the quotes that I provided above. The more one understands freemasonry, secret societies of the elite, and the Illuminati agenda, the better one has a picture of what is truly going on in the world today and where we are headed. Most people have a hard time beliving this side of the story, because most people are conditioned not to believe in things that occur outside of their pre-conditioned plateau of reality. This is how these secret socities operate and feed off people's unawareness in order to further their agenda through what we commonly know as "religion" and "politics." Yes, it sounds crazy, but I encourage people to read into this themselves. Don't listen to me.
I got nosey and bought Manufactured march of 1915 but, its so old I am afraid to read it..I feel there is value in it. Got it off ebay, was searching for the movie dogma
you are well versed on freemasonry, pressed rat. impressive. i was on a freemasonry kick for a few months last year, and i tried to read everything about it. however, there is so much beating around the bush that eventually i felt this strong desire to try and join them, just to see how far i could "infiltrate". it was then that i realized exactly what i was doing--buying into the nonsense. i was slowly becoming obsessed with them, and i really had no idea why. now i think it was because we as humans have this intense urge to know secrets--to have information that others don't have. it is a kind of power, and the freemasons have used this to brainwash so many, particularly weak minded people who are tired of feeling like outsiders. post script--i heard this: the ultimate freemason secret is that there is a man known as the count st. germaine, who has been walking the earth since the time of christ without ever aging, and he holds dark secrets which are then revealed to the freemasons of the higest degrees.
try freemasonrywatch.org for some cursorary knowledge. learn stuff on your own, dont trust or talk to anyone about it.
Ive never heard of Count St. Germaine but it makes perfect sense to me. Ive read just as much as Pressed Rat let us know about. Its fucked, how do we know whats true and whats not? Why can't they just let us KNOW what they know! I feel gipped. WHATS SO GREAT! you have to keep it a secret.
Read a David Ike book. His books are really far out and kinda unbeleivable but theres alot about freemasonry in it. The water buffalos on the flintstones were a spoof of the freemasons.
In my opinion, Freemasonry is a great organization. They have produce men of honors and our history books is filled with those men. From George Washington to Jose P. Rizal. And all that stuff about them being satanist and devil worshipers are nothing but false accusations probably spread by the Catholic Church. Because if you really look at the history of the world you'll find that most men who question the authority and bullshit of the church were freemasons. And also most freemasons are freethinkers, and it seems like that the church have problem with people like that because they are not easily controlled like the rest of the massess. If you really want to know more about Freemasonry, here's a link I found: www.masonicinfo.com
david icke does do an excellent job at providing the history and proof of the illuminati...but he is a bit paranoid...the orion race is no longer an issue or a threat to us, unless we are deliberatly searching them out.
