The Kingdom of God

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  1. DonGenaro

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    What do you think it is?
     
  2. Bl4ck3n3D

    Bl4ck3n3D Member

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    The Kingdom of God is technically the 12th Divine Kingdom of the most High, although this earth is soon to be transformed into the Kingdom of God on earth.
     
  3. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    It's not a place but a state of being.

    You were already in the kingdom before you took on human form. The human mind closes off your ability to see any further than your physical senses. A spiritual journey is all about restoring that ability while still in the body.

    You enter the kingdom when you achieve this, just like Jesus did.



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  4. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    There is no knowing 'what' the kingdom is. But rather living it out. Jesus said we must become as little children in order to enter it. The Tao Te Ching says we must remain as young trees which bend with the world and therefor dont break. This leads me to think that there is no way of knowing, since youth has experience and amazement rather than knowledge and boredom.
    For me the kingdom is where I go during prayer that fills me with bliss, but a state I am unable to retain all the time because I am too absorbed in my thoughts as an adult most of the time. It's not that I leave that state, I dont even think that's possible. It's just that it gets covered in layers and I have to pick them up all over again, day after day :tongue:
    God bless
     
  5. DonGenaro

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  6. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Jesus also said "Our" father...

    Not just his.

    We are all children of God. The kingdom opens when you realize this truth.

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  7. Okiefreak

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    "The Kingdom of God is spread out everywhere upon the earth, and people do not see it." Gospel of Thomas. I think Jesus presented the Kingdom of God as an alternative to the Kingdom of Men like Caesar and Herod. It was His vision of something already begun, by his preaching, and that he expected to be fulfilled, as more people caught on to his message--this earth transformed by agapic love.
     
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  9. Bhaskar

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    Did trhe master also not say "The kingdom of heaven is within you." How then could it be a system of government? It is indeed a state of being in total communion with God, whence all peace and bliss reigns in your world. It is a personal transformation for each one to make.
     
  10. Okiefreak

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    So? Those wars reflect the reality that a lot of people didn't get the memo.
     
  11. kaminoishiki

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    Kingdom of God, sounds pretty epic. I wonder if it's all that different from this very moment?
     
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    your in the kingdom of God.

    duh?
     
  13. Xac

    Xac Visitor

    Not that i am disagreeing with you but for discussions sake it is worth opening your mind up to the following possibility. If the kingdom of heaven is within all of us and all of us recognize it, is it not then likely that we would start to work together in a new way? organize a system to live by that is perfect?
     
  14. Bhaskar

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    You're right.
    Then again, if we all recognized the kingdom within us, why would we need a system? Each one would be perfect in themselves.
    Spirituality cannot be forced from outside through rules and laws. And when the inner change comes, there is no need for external laws.
     
  15. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Or religion.

    It's a worthy goal to work towards.


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  16. DonGenaro

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    The 'system of government' would presumably be one where no external laws or rules were needed, no government, as people would become self-regulated because of the spiritual consciousness.

    This seems to be the position held by many anti-nomian type christians in the past, as against that of the orthodox, who don't it seems, have enough faith to trust wholly in the spirit. Like St.Paul with his equivocal attiude to the question of 'grace vs.law'.
     
  18. Bhaskar

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    For it to work on that scale, we would have to be a planet of realized souls. I'm just saying.
     
  19. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    This is the very reason it will never occur.

    Enlightened beings capable of this kind of compassion are not interested in earthly life or living on a planet full of like minded people. This world is unreal to them. A dream.

    They help people to escape this realm, not make them more comfortable within it.



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    i think the spiritual conciousness for this is our natural reality . artificial thinking may subvert it , but it's still there .

    many people support the Rule-Of-Law quite fervently . the Rule exemplifies mehanistic artificial thinking . it is an invention of language - a false religion . it serves the rule-makers . they claim authority is impartial , impersonal . yes , they will passionately kill anyone who defies them .

    still , the divine anarchy will survive . it is goodness . it has power by the grace of creation . it is and shall be , just as every child is born to sing .
     
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