New death from someone not presenting any risk: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/11/14/bc-taserrelease.html?ref=rss But like letting our lives being monitored, these deaths are become more and more acceptable politically...why?
This man wasn't what the Bushites like to claim as muslim extremists, he was Polish. http://www.boingboing.net/2007/10/26/taser-death-at-vanco.html Who next.... gypsies and others of ethnic races? Is our security worth this while we let Chinese and foreign importers allow their poisons into this area of the world. What are we supposed to fear??? Who are we supposed fear...I fear my government and the dumb shits they hire to enforce our supposed security.
We're you there ? well its safe to say he wasnt a risk to you. Now its a race thing. it happened in canada hes from europe, but yet bush still gets the blame, haha.
Hard to tell who's a risk in 24 seconds. Afterall didn't Mohammed Atta receive a renewal for his visa in April 2002, after the 09/11/01 bombings. We couldn't seem to label him a risk during that time but a customer of an airline who's waited 10 hours can be labeled as such in 24 seconds.
And yeah I blame Bush, he's established this climate of fear where anyone that speaks a foreign language is seen as an enemy.
Now the US forest service has them too. They should be outlawed before more folks die from them. I wonder how many people have to die before they figure out that this is not a non-lethal weapon... Too many scared cops.They might think twice about shooting someone (maybe) in a bad situation, but they will use tasers in any situation, out of their fear. It actually allows them to act out their aggression, where a gun just might keep them a bit in check. So ultimately it allows the cops to be more emotionally out of control than they might otherwise, because they can use ANYTHING as an excuse, where they need to come up with at least SOME semblance of a good excuse for shooting someone. Isn't THAT a happy thought?
Ughhh... First of all, this particular death has *not* been accepted 'politically'. There is a large public outcry and it's been all over National news since the incident first occurred. The day after it happened his mother was crying in an interview on the CBC. And, anyway this is pretty much an isolated incident that should be investigated - don't get me wrong - but it had to do with a few rash security/police trained persons who could not handle how to use a taser as a weapon. Gardener, the police knew the guy didn't speak English. There was an obvious language barrier and communication problem that really only concerns the police and security team involved in this man's case. I wouldn't give President Bush any credit for this situation, and I believe your conclusions have been malevolently misdirected. Not sure why you are afraid of your government from all this, but I do wish you well.
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=267688 This was the first thread of this story and now this, well if it happend as in the first then well shit happens but if it happend http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/11/14/bc-taserrelease.html?ref=rss well then yep it was wrong, just shows its not the taser but rather the person using it. His death (still no report has been released as to direct cause of death) could have been from the officers on his neck, head and back too! Still have not seen the video that is refrenced either. Taser has proven to work and pepper spray ect but sadly it is used far too much for matters it was not intended for and also improperly used and lastly it does not always work and has the ability to create dersious health issues and death becuase not all peoples health are the same.
Unfortunately there have been NUMEROUS news stories about MANY people dying from tasers. They even gave it a name, "excited delirium". A NEW name for a new cause of death. Never heard of it before tasers. Not in serious disasters, not on the battlefield, just in the use of force, particularly tasers, by the police... Odd. A person who "seems not to be effected" by a taser.... Well, did-ja ever accidentally grab hold of an electric fence or a live electric wire? Most folks don't think too well whilst being electrocuted and some flail around uncontrollably.... Supposing a cop crashed your door in the middle of the night and grabbed you out of bed before you could think and started tasing you? You MIGHT just do something that could cause that same cop to shoot you dead, without having any actual thought or intent behind it...
More information on the spread and misuse of tasers. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/19/14057/0584 I find this information extremely scary:
I agree with this. And, the other poster who mentioned different people's health conditions. The fuzz cannot predict which citizins will have a worse reaction to the taser than others. This fact alone, you'd think would dictate hesitance to use one, unless an officer of the law is actually physically threatened by a suspect. But seems they don't even take that into consideration.
This isn't an "isolated incident" because we are hearing about incidents like this all the time -- not just in the US, but in Canada and Europe as well. The police are being trained to act this way because it serves as a way to acclimate the public for what's to come on a much greater scale. Just the other week, they tased a man in a diabetic coma in the UK because he would not move and they thought he was a suicide bomber.
Are you suggesting that this particular incident is related to the diabetic man case as some kind of larger conspiracy? I highly beg to differ. A taser is a weapon. There are officials who are misusing said weapon. No need to give any higher being or entity credit for the misuse of a taser than the person who used it.
Not so sure about a "conspiracy", I just think the majority of cops are EVIL and SCARED and they mostly all react the same to situations. Oh yea, it doesn't help when they are TRAINED to use tasers when a gun won't do. Because they'd RATHER shoot a lot of folks that they DON'T shoot because they couldn't get away with it...
The police are being trained to act in ways that would normally act as last resorts, as first resorts. We are seeing the sovietization/nazization of the west through a police state and so-called "anti-terrorism" bills that, once fully implemented, will make the Third Reich look like a picnic by comparison. This is being implemented all across the western nations. The police are using tasers on children and the elderly, and this has not happened once but numerous times, so to say these are simply isolated events is to not see the big picture of what's happening. I can name numerous incidents where tasers have been used when they didn't need to be, and some of these incidents resulted in death from the use of the taser. They are acclimating the people of the west to accept tyranny and brutality as being a regular, everyday occurance, which it has become.
Haven't researched any statistics on "excessive force" use of taser weapons, but with a population of 300 million it looks like we are quite a ways from large scale taser acclimation.
*yawns* If the police are misusing tasers, then they are misusing tasers. Laws can always be changed/reviewed and policies implemented to protect the people from misuse. In Canada, the policemen carry firearms and they are used as a last resort - not tasers. In the UK - their police use batons as their last resort, and not tasers. Taser use is intended to immobilize a suspect - not to torture, kill and coerce. And for what's it worth, the UN declared the use of tasers as a means of torture to be inhumane. Again, the big picture is the abuse of the actual use of tasers themselves that is being executed by people who have the authority to use them and for what purpose. The problems resulting from taser abuse are not about the Third Reich or the second coming. I'm pretty sure that Policemen have been asking for tasers for years to help reprehend suspects and protect their people. The public is very disturbed by these occurrences and concerned with the value of using tasers at all. I think we're on the same page about the issue, only my views on the progression of events differ quite significantly from yours.
