Im high on 10mgs of percocet. I have no tolerance for opitate and im feeling nice.. Im wondering if I take 1mg of xanax, if it will increase my high... I already take about 2-3mgs of xanax a day... So is it worth downing the 1mg I have, or will it not give me too great of effects? edit: The reason I want to take the xanax is because I only had 10mg of percs, And The high isnt that great (i can feel the opiod high, its just not that great, wish i had more percs but dont... My reason for wanting to take xanax)
Bump... Need to know soon. I only took the perks an hour ago, so ive been feelin good for about 15 20 mins now. Should I take the xanax?
Yeah man, Opiates and benzos go well together. I used to take Zanex when I used to shoot up H and it def helped my high.
I only have 2mg of xanax though. It takes about 3-5mg for me to get high on them becaudse I have a big tolerance for xanax. Will it make the opiate high stronger? Thats really what im looking for.
Ok so I took 1mg of xanax. I would Like to save the other one for tommorow morning (because im usually irritated and stuff the next day after taking opiates)... but I think I might just take it since I already took the other one. Any suggestions?
dude it's 1 mg and if u do 3 mg a day, who cares man? If it gives u a chance for a better high then do it .. it might not nessarcily blow ur high up but it has good chances of enhancing it no matter what .. so if u took 1 miligram even though ur normal is 2-3 a day , that's like taking a 15 miligrams of oxycodone/perk and doing 30-45 a day , if u feel really good off that 30-45, doing half / a third of that will get u prob the slightlest buzz in the world , but it's not alone so addin it onto it helps .. i mean for me i take like 4 30's a day and when i'm withdrawin even a 15 miligram bump puts me in a normal mood for a few hours , and that's like 10 percent of what i do .. so ur good buddy
i gotta agree with etkearne here. i find the opiate high to be much more euphoric than the benzo high. taking xanax while on opiates IME dilutes the high and just makes me sleepy. when i have both opiates and benzos on hand i usually do the opiates by themselves or maybe with a little bit of an anti-histamine to augment, then i save the benzos for when i run out of opiates and go through withdrawl. it really takes the edge off. thats just my oppinion tho so go ahead and try it for yourself to see how you like it.
Ok, just in case you like opiates and you start doing more, I do hope you know that so many before us have died on that combination. While im not gonna tell you not to do this combo, just remember one thing, the leading cause of death while doing opiates is mixing benzos with it. Im not so much worried about you at these levels, but i can tell you, that if you like the opiate buzz, which i know you will, you not gonna be at 19MGs for too long, you will increase. When it does, mixing with Xanax becomes a dumb idea. Just my $0.02 wirth....Google mixing Opiates with Benzos and see what you come up with........
I'll add even more to the argument in favor of NOT mixing the two. Pharmacologically speaking, the way opioids create euphoria is through a complex cascade of mechanisms that ends up DECREASING the flow of GABA in the Nucleus Acumbens (sp.?). Now, GABA is an inhibitory neurotransmitter. That means that is dampens any signal from any neuron coming in contact with it. Thus, its role in the Nucleus Ac. is to dampen the flow of DOPAMINE there. When opioids decrease the flow of GABA in the Nucleus, in turn, DOPAMINE starts to flow like wild-fire in that area of the brain. Coincidentally, that area is specifically involved in intense euphoria. But, if you add Xanax, a GABA-agonist (well it is technically called a positive allosteric modulator, but we'll keep it simple), to the mix, you are going to be flooding EVERY part of the brain with GABA. That is a good thing for areas that produce Cortisol (stress hormone) and other bad things, BUT, it also is going to dampen the flow of Dopamine in the Nucleus Ac. despite the presence of the opioid. So, in effect, it lessens the euphoria from opioids. I understand that that is rather difficult to understand. It took me about a month of hard-core textbook reading to understand it. But, all that matters is that scientifically-speaking: Benzos detract from opioid-induced euphoria.
that is actually a deadly combo, i read od and world disasters for conclusion mate. don't believe these people, astronaut explosions of man roaches and things of the like.
Thanks for the input guys.. I have heard from famliy and friends also that opiates and benzos are a deadly combo. I dont over do it though. I get high on opiates occasionally, maybe 3 times a month. And when I do, its only about 15-30mgs. And, regardless of the bad side effects it may have, I like to take 1 or 2mg of xanax while on opiates, and espically when im coming down or waking up the next morning illl take benzos.
I know this topic is nearly a month old, but I wanted to throw in my two cents. One of the first things I was prescribed when I was younger was clonazepam for bad anxiety problems, shortly after that, endocet for pain. I thought to myself "they both make me feel great, why not take them at the same time?" took quite a bit of both. Stupid. I was nodding like crazy and forgetting to breathe. I forced myself to stay awake because I didn't want to fall asleep and never wake up again. On a related note, has anyone of you guys who take opiates ever woken up taking a big gasp of air? I remember it happening a few times to me and it always scared the shit out of me.
The only time I ever had a respiratory depression problem with opioids, was, predictably, when I mixed a moderate dose of a barbiturate with my Suboxone. Nothing too bad happened, but it scared me straight so to speak!
