sucks to be american

There is pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills: S 89 and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft can begin at early as Spring 2005 -- just after the 2004 presidential election. The administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed immediately.

$28 million has been added to the 2004 Selective Service System (SSS) budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. Selective Service must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation. Please see website: www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to view the sss annual performance plan - fiscal year 2004.

The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide.. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential members of congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan [and a permanent state of war on "terrorism"] proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.

Congress brought twin bills, S. 89 and HR 163 forward this year, http://www.hslda.org/legislation/na...s89/default.asp entitled the Universal National Service Act of 2003, "to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons [age 18--26] in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." These active bills currently sit in the committee on armed services.

Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era.

College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001, Canada and the U.S. signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30-point plan which implements, among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service until the end of their current semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year.

Even those voters who currently support US actions abroad may still object to this move, knowing their own children or grandchildren will not have a say about whether to fight. Not that it should make a difference, but this plan, among other things, eliminates higher education as a
shelter and includes women in the draft.

The public has a right to air their opinions about such an important decision.

Please send this on to all the friends, parents, aunts and uncles, grandparents, and cousins that you know. Let your children know too -- it's their future, and they can be a powerful voice for change!

Please also contact your representatives to ask them why they aren't telling their constituents about these bills -- and contact newspapers and other media outlets to ask them why they're not covering this important story.


One of the easiest things that you can do is to visit http://www.upayna.org to sign a petition against these bills. It will only take a few seconds of your time and add to the vast number of voices speaking out against these bills.

You should also tell at least five people you know about this legislation and tell them to tell five people they know. The government is using our lack of information as the source of their power in passing this type of legislation. If the media won’t report on this then it is our responsibility to inform people.

You can view the bill at: http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/g_three_sections_with_teasers/legislative_home.htm

Search for bill number S 89.

 

Yay but is it only a rumor or is it true . i heard somewhere that Paul Martin our prime minister said that Canada would respect his reputation of hospitality ... Weird , i just hope for the americans that the bill won't pass .THere is contradictory rumors about this story, i hope it's not true.

 

im half canadian so canada better let draft dodgers in ( in the unlikely event that that bill is passed) otherwise i better say im antartican or something

 

You could atleast post a link to the site that you took this from.

When is this article even from? The election ended quite a while ago.

I did, along with HR 163.

109th CONGRESS 1st Session S. 89

To amend title VII of the Public Health Service Act to make certain graduate programs in professional psychology eligible to participate in various health professions loan programs.


and...


109th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 163

To amend title 46, United States Code, to direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to carry out an empty shipping container sealing pilot program to encourage shipping container handlers to seal empty shipping containers after they have unpacked them, and for other purposes.


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Well don't you look like an idiotic hippie sheep now. You posted a really old article, obviously published before the election even took place, that cited two bills that have nothing to do with a draft of any kind.


Last summer, there were rumors that the draft would be reinstated this spring and summer. Now the rumors are that the draft will begin in spring of 2006. Even if the U.S. invades Iran, there will not be a draft.

 

hahaha stupid american

 

to qoute richard jenni "america: 20 million illegal immigrants cant be wrong"

im sorry but america is one of the greatest places to live. these draft rumours are all bullshit, its jsut not gonna happen, no fuckin chance, we dont need to draft people, our military is the strongest in the world.

 

cute, the american millitary is bollocks....6 weeks of basic training? hmmmm yeah real great army, the only reason they "win" is the fact that the government pour millions into top class equipment and they go to war against tiny little broken armys and millitia forces. sheer numbers out way any skill. i love the way americans assume there country is the greatest.....how many of them have even left there borders on a holiday let alone to live abroad? i've never lived in america but my research leads me to belive that it sucks.



that is all.

 

I believe that America is a great place to live, but it would be better if we could do SHIT about it...

 

well i CAN talk! ive lived in germany, japan, and south korea. My father is military and hes been in for like 27 years. you want skills? He has one tons of marksmanship awards, hes almost 50 fit as hell and could stomp the shit out of 99% of the people that want beef. Your RESEARCH???!!? FUCK THAT you cant knock us til youve lived here. sure we may have a dumb fuck for president AT THE MOMENT but thatll change in a few years. sure we may have a few unjust laws(with regards to sweet mary j) but thatll change too. Obviously your research has decieved you, cuz your spoutin off some dumb shit. Our military could stomp out ANY country. sure Iraq was war that wasnt needed, but everyone makes mistakes (GWB). you make a valid poitn about the short time troops are in BT but they recieve additional training once they are on the job. your my boy an erything so dont take this the wrong way beef wise.

 

Jointman69, I now give you a lot more credit.
I had no idea you and I shared so many beliefs!

HAPPY 4-20!!

 

lol aight then, i can spout some intelligent shit when im sober

 

That's funny...
'cause I can speak more coherently when I'm high.

 

grumble, grumble

i really dont like the government...and this war
a dude from my town just died like a month ago in the war

 

This war is bullshit, yes.
The government is fucked, yes.
But it is the best TYPE of government out there.
We just have to work on fixing it.

 

i think the ideas our forefathers had for a government were the best type but our current leaders seem to interprate (i know i cant spell) the word "FREEDOM'' like the southern baptists interprate the bible............ they stretch freedom to cover their opinion of it and no one elses... I have friends in the military and know guys who have been killed in iraq right now, I am not for this war but fuck I'd rahter live here then there, i know it may sound insensitive but its the truth.... there are worse places that i could be than america so i will settle.......................................................
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Me? I was the first American to reply and the first person to say anything of meaning.

 

what about the vietnam draft you had the strongest military in the world to then

 

yeh i did search for that bill and found the same thing............thought ide take a chance and hope no one would search for it

 

What in the hell does that matter...? That has nothing to do with this subject.

You're an idiot and I don't like you.

 

i meant to say australian....i think.....