Strengthen your faith in the bible Christians.

This thread is going to be used to strengthen your faith. It is for Christians only, but all are welcome to comment and engage. I am not here to convert or to spread Christianity at all. I will set out to debunk the Religion of Evolution as it is a major road block in the way of faith, as evolution destroys a lot of Christians belief in the bible.

This thread will be about truth and against error. If you want to refute a point I've made, first understand that this is my opinion. Second, you may freely refute me in a civil way. No flaming or trolling here. If you disagree please make it known and be prepared to offer your insights and why you believe so. Support with evidence.

Be nice! Stay on TOPIC.

Good bless.

1. I am not here to argue
2. I am here to strengthen you believe in the bible, not to convert. Christians only.
3. Do not post off topic and please keep posting to a minimum. PM me if you want. Keep this place clean.

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NOTE: This post is just my opener. I will continue to make big posts with a lot of information with the intention of strengthen your faith in God, and his word. I am not converting or trying to spread Christianity.

Post 1:

There are some questions that the theory of Evolution tries to answer, but can't. Though, the rhetoric concerning it is more fitting to fairy tales than science.

There are important questions in life humans often raise with good reason:

1. Who am I ?
2. Where did I come from ?
3. How much am I worth ?
4. Where do I go when I die ?

I have established already that the theory of Evolution can not be proven correct and is a complete lie. There has been a 250,000 offer for anyone who can provide real evidence biased on real science rather than science fiction. This offer has been standing for 15 years and still stands today.

According to the humanist view point (Humanist is a world view on a foundation of Evolution and means that eventually humans can be come God) we can answer question one as this: You are proto plasm that washed up on the beach. Question two can be answered too, according to evolution you came from a cosmic burp and you have no purpose. You are worth nothing. So if it feels good ladies and gentlemen do it ! Where do you go when you die? You are worm food.

In the bible: Genesis 3:1 We learn where Satan first begins his deception that calls to kill off humanity and bring us away from God unto hell. He lies to Eve telling her to be like God, for Satan hates that we are made in God's image. This dumb theory of Evolution and the humanist view point roots in: (remember, Evolution is a Humanist world view to become like Gods)

Genesis 3:1-5
The fall of man

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned

Life came first, then death by and because of sin. As you will see, the humanist world view, founded hard by Evolution, is COMPLETELY opposite and perversive from the Word of our living God. Starting to see this ?


Doubt of Gods word is because of Satan and this happened from the start. Right then and there Evolution got started and it did not begin with Darwin. Theories of man evolving from lesser organisms into Godly ones has been taught throughout the ages. The Egyptians taught that man evolved from a fungus out of the Nile river (Mosses was taught this!), the empire of Greece taught different forms of it too...Darwin made it very popular. Satan is a liar, you can not become God. Though Lucifer wants to: We look onto the book of Isaiah 14:12-14

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

It's important to note how Satan tricked Eve into eating from the tree of knowledge. He put a little truth into the lie so that it would seem right. But there was also poison ...Again, tell a lie mixed in with a little truth it may be believed.

Like rat food, mix in a little poison (lie) with some good food and you kill the rat at his own doing...in deception of course. Like Marlboro cigarettes: Place a cowboy image into the advertising and mix in the harmful effects of the cigarette. Will you become a cowboy smoking Marlboro's ? No. Do you have to be a cowboy to smoke Marlboro's ? No. Do all cowboys smoke Marlboro's ? No. Also, like beer and sports marketing/advertising. Will you become a football player by drinking Budweiser ? No. Do all football players drink Budweiser ? No.

Adolf Hitler Said it best:

“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed”


The same can be said about the State Religion of Evolution. Mix in a little bit of good science with the bad posion...and behold! Tell kids in the ST grade the Earth is billions and billions and billions of years old and Evolution they will believe you.

Moving on....

Evolution is a tricky word. There are several meanings of it and several definitions of it to explain the formation/starting of several things:

Cosmic evolution: the origin of time, space, and matter from nothing in the “big bang”

Chemical evolution: all elements “evolved” from hydrogen

Stellar evolution: stars and planets formed from gas clouds

Organic evolution: life begins from inanimate matter

Macro-evolution: animals and plants change from one type into another

Micro-evolution: variations form within the “kind”

Only the last one, micro-evolution, has anything to do with real science. For all of human history we have observed variations within the kinds such as 400 varieties of dogs coming from a dog like ancestor such as a fox or a wolf. Dogs produce dogs and corn produces corn. There may be great variations within the basic kind but that is NOT evidence that dogs and corn are related. Every farmer on planet earth counts on micro evolution happening as he develops crops or herds best suited for his area, but he also counts on macro evolution NOT happening. Anything other than minor changes within the kind is not part of science. Evolution as defined as macro evolution is a religion in every sense of the word. People are welcome to BELIEVE the first five types of evolution, but they are not part of science or common sense. Micro evolution is implied as evidence for the other five.

Moving on...

Matter can not be created or destroyed ? How did the world get here ? Humanist believe the world created itself from literally nothing from the "Big Bang" about 18-20 Billion years ago...This is the real fairy tale because atheist state that dirt got together from nothing, really nothing and exploded into everything.

So there are two Religions. One is the Religion of Evolution and the other true one: Christianity.

One says in the beginning dirt...
The other says in the beginning God...

It's Religion vs. Religion. World View vs. World View. One is of truth and love, the other is the exact opposite of the truth in every way. The latter makes more sense and has more real scientific evidence. Because it is the only truth. If you pay attention you will see the Evolutionary Humanist world view is backward from the bible in every way. Up is down and down is up.

Moreover, if Evolution be true and considering all the kinds of Evolution then this must be answered according to the religion of Evolution:

Why are laws not evolving ? Laws like gravity ?
Where did energy come from to run these laws ?

Example, take the law of the Conservation of Angular Motion and hold it true. Why are some galaxies spinning the wrong way according to the law? Why do two known planets spin backward? Why do 8 of 91 known moons spin backward ? If the big bang be true, these observations break the law of the conservation of angular motion. I think God did this to make the "Big Bang" theory to look dumb and false. Because if the Big Bang were true, matter and energy would be evenly distributed across the universe...it is not.

Example, according to the 2ND law of thermodynamics, it is not permitted for order to arise from disorder. Everything breaks down into chaos, but evolution teaches that you will become gods. Also, with this law in mind, adding energy is destructive and evolution violates all this.

I tell you the truth, our ancestors were not sea sponges. But humanist will lead you on and teach unto you that you are an animal and share common ancestors with earth worms. Kids are also taught there are no absolutes as well. Are we absolutely sure about this ?

How can you atheists tell right from wrong ? You see, the fallacy of evolution destroys kids faith in the bible. Let's look onto scripture about the danger of doing so:

Matthew 18:6

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea

It is interesting to note that in 1957 the Russians launched Sputnik, the first man made satellite into space. At this point, the Russians were leading the space race. Americans came unto panic and thought that because what the Russians were teaching was the reasons they were ahead in this scientific achievement. They thought that because they taught evolution they were smarter...this makes no sense. What does rocket science have to do with evolution...I mean really ?

In 1959, Dwight D. Eisenhower on the 100TH anniversary of Darwin's Origins of Species, called on congress for a billion dollar Cold War Education Reconstruction Bill to transform the way our children are taught in Public Schools. You guessed it, Evolution was ramped up. Though this is not the beginnings of this being taught. It marks a shift away from God into the NWO biased agenda of Evolution...It's also remarkable to note that in the 1960's the United States saw a drastic decline in morality, and the decay of our nation, and the world for that matter, Delcine morally. Look up the stats if you want...The hippie movement also took root, which is heavily humanist, believing that we don't even exist at all. LOL

You can kiss a frog and it transforms into a prince. Kiss frog and it SLOWLY transforms into a prince (Prince William for example).

One is called a fairy tale and the former is called modern science. The magic word: Billions and Billions of years ago....Atheists talk like this a fact of science. Where you there billions of years ago ? Did you test or demonstrate this, ...you can't. It happens so slow that it does not even happen.

In short, Evolution is Satan's Religion and this false theory has influenced the rise of communism, socialism, Marxism, Nazism and the New World Order.

This is just my opener and only serves as a frame work to establish and uphold civil discussions.


Evolution is not only dumb, it is dangerous.

 

Post 2 will be covering evidence for a young Earth and creation. Coming soon, please refrain for posting utill then...​

 

Staying on topic:

You have completely failed in establishing a point.

Sorry.

 

Do you mean the entire bible, or the fragment of a bible commonly found today? And isn't it a bit hypocritical for a man of faith to say evolution needs proof?

 

Just like Sony .... "Coming Soon"

Just like a dictatorship ..... "please refrain..."

 

I mean to strengthen fellow Christians faith in the bible. Evolution is a Religion too. Faith is needed to believe in it...I am here to strengthen fellow Christians faith in the bible. Not to convert non Christians into Christianity...just to clarify. I am not here to sway you but to offer my opinion, I challenge you to offer you opinions too, but in a friendly non hostile way. Thank you.

Peace unto you.

 

I will be using this thread to establish my points. That is why I said I will be posting long posts. It will take some time and effort to do so. So if I failed it is because I am not done yet.

You don't have to apologize. We are all here to discuss this topic. I would ask you to express your opinions in a friendly manner though.

You are free to create threads that you deem necessary.

Thanks brother.

 

Make it quick then.

There is nothing friendly about religion.

You're welcome.

 

Pointing out holes is not hostility. And my questions still stand. Strengthen Christian faith in THE bible, or the parts of it that didn't threaten the authority of some time ago? And if faith is needed to believe in evolution, then by yor standards its been proven. As you've said,"My faith is proof".

 

Primalflow, it is not my intention to debate atheists in this thread. This thread is for believers in Christ. If you wish to debate, open a thread and we could do that

Now, you are still welcome here. In this thread I will be giving great evidence against evolution and a to claim with more evidence that every word in the bible is true. I've never said my faith is my proof. There is more scientific evidence for God than for the humanist religion of Statan: Evolution.

Thanks brother. Open that thread and I'll talk with you, but here I am going to just post my original goals for this thread. Don't be offended if I don't responded to you.


As it stands now, the bible has never been proven scientifically inaccurate, rather evolution and the big bang have never been proven true and the theories around them are complete fantasy and not of true science whatsoever. If you bring me the points and theories of evolution you think true I can correct you. Until then, I will be strengthening fellow Christians faith in the bible.

Peace.

 

I am posting in this thread because I am a believer of Christ - I believe he existed around that time and was born around 0-4BC and died about 30 years later.

About evolution, the other thread you were posting in showed that you didn't have much understanding of it. Can you explain how you can say it is false without having understood the science of it?

 

I am not an atheist. Evolution does not attempt to deny God. I am not sure evolution is true, my only point on that subject was that you can't say it needs evidential proof and Christianity only needs proof of faith, which you have said in another thread. My main reason for posting here was to pose the question "How can you truly strengthen faith in something you only have peices of?" But alas, you are right, this is not the place for this. See my thread, "What bible?"

I come, and leave, in peace.

 

Brother Walsh, I am happy to see you here !

Amen, praise God for sending us Jesus Christ so that we may all fellowship with him and be forgiven of all past sins! For we all fall short of the glory of God! Being born again we are in Christ as he is in our Father, so that the only way to our Father in Heaven is though the precious Jesus Christ. AMEN.

We are safe here in the Sanctuary to express our faith and I thank God I can fellowship with you here.

Moving on to address your question...

I have a through understanding of evolution and yet a better understanding of science, and I will explain that it is nothing more than Satan's Religion bent from lies mixed in with a little bit of good science. It is the foundation of hate and is completely opposite of the bible in every way. It is the religion of Satan to destroy mankind. He is at work!

In fact if you understand science, you will clearly see how non scientific the theory of evolution really is!

To really understand why Evolution is out there you must understand the fall of man. When Satan beguiled Eve into taking from the Tree of Knowledge; that is when sin entered the world and marks the time when Satan began to destroy God's creation, for we were created in his image (See my second post in this thread). Satan continues to destroy man with the foundations of Evolution which is a humanist world view. With this view, man becomes God, man creates God and all morality is gone. Do what you want. if it feels good do it. And the world is doing just that,....to kill of humanity. The NWO proves this. No question that we live in a fallen world.

Evolution puts the credibility of God at stake, Jesus at stake and it pits our faith to be nothing but vanity!

The Earth is about 6,000 years old according to the word of God. The evidence can be found with science by observing the world too. Evolutionist will teach that it is Millions and millions of years old. They also teach death before sin...which is a hearsay against the bible. For we know that by man came sin. There is no proof for evolution, the big bang or for an old earth. I will be slowly going over all this in the thread....

Corinthians 15:21 & 22

For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Genesis 3:6 &7

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.


With the fallacy of Evolution the credibility of the Word of God and Jesus is in vain and at stake. They are calling God a liar. Jesus in the Gospels quotes Genesis 25 times, and every book in the bible, everyone, refers back to Genesis. New bible versions are Satan's tool....

John 5:46 & 47

For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words ?

(Ye is plural: like you. Thee is singular FYI).

Humanist will spit propaganda, saying the world is over crowded. This is false. The ENTIRE population of the world, six billion people, can fit TWICE in Jacksonville Florida. If it's over crowded where you live, move. In Jesus's time there were only 1/4 of a billion of people. In 1800, there were 1 billion people.

If life has been evolving for the past 300 million years as the Religion of Evolution teaches, then the current population of the Earth would be 150,000 people per square inch! We are created to fill the Earth and to populate it, evolution, again is completely backward to God's word

Genesis 1:26-28

And God said, Let us (him and Jesus) make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing creepeth upon earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Since the fall of man Satan has been perverting God's words in his desire to destroy man. Evolution is a tool for him to employ.

Near Atlanta Georgia in the town of Alberton, off of Highway 77, lies a peculiar stone monument. It looks similar to stone henge. It is the New World Orders ten commandments. The first commandment written in this stone block is "to maintain humanity below 500,000 people" There are six billion people in the world today...how are they going to do this ? Subtly.

Ocean explorer Jacques Cousteau said, "We need to eliminate 350,000 people a day..."

Charles Wurster said, "People are the cause of all problems. We need to get rid of some of them..."

Ted Turner, "we need a 95% decline in population..." OK, Ted, you first buddy.

Bill Clinton signed the biodiversity treaty to reduce world population to one billion people and to make all of pheasant status. What a good guy!

Prince Phillip, husband to Queen Elizabeth said he wants to be reincarnated as a virus to kill off as many people as he can.

70% of food in the U.S. is Genetically Modified, processed. Read the book Seeds of Deception. You will be surprised.

"Food is power...we use it as control. We do not apologize" United Nations

Peter Singer, a Princeton University Professor wants to give women a 30 day trial to test out their babies, and if they don't want them they can kill them. He also said, "Christianity is our foe, if animal rights are to secede, we must destroy the Christian Religious tradition"

There are ways they are killing us off. Teaching homosexuality is OK, chem-trails, bad food, vaccinations with time bombs in them, low cholesterol (lowers fertility), abortions, evolution, teaching the world view of Satan (humanist and evolution), war profiteering and many more...just thinking. But getting away from God is their goal. With God they can't do this.

In fact Evolution goes 100% against the bible in every way:

In the bible:
Earth before Sun
Oceans before land
light before sun
land plants first
Fruit tress before fish
Fish before insects
Plants before sun
marine animals before land animals
Birds before reptiles
Atmosphere between two layers of water
Man brought death into world
God created man

In Evolution:
Sun before Earth
Land before ocean
Sun before light
land plants second
Fish before fruit trees
Insects before fish
Sun before plants
Land animals before marine animals
reptiles before birds
Atmosphere above water
Death brought man into world (evolution revolves around this)
Man created God

There are enough stars in the universe for each human on earth today to have 11 billion each!

-We have observed less than 300 Super Novas (stars dying) and have never seen any stars in the process of forming!

-Jupiter is cooling. If the universe is billions of years old then Jupiter today would be completely cooled off. It is not.

-Our moon is leaving away from earth at about an inch per year. It causes tides every day. So since we know it is leaving we also know that it was once closer. According to inverse square law the moon and earth would be totally touching a million years ago. That explains what happened to the dinosaurs. They were mooned. LOL

-Comets have a life expectancy of 10,000 years and less. If the universe is billions of years old why do we still observe comets ?

-Earth lost 10% of it's magnetic strength. It is getting weaker. Since it was once stronger, we know that if the earth is millions of years ago it would have been to strong to support any life in the primordial soup to evolve whatsoever. So they say it reverses and such, flips and flops. This is never been true. It is made up. We know in truth that since the magnetic Field is getting weaker and that it does not "reverse" we know it is less than 25,000 years old.

-What about Pangaea ? The super content. What they don't tell you is that humanist scientist shrank down Africa 35-40% to make it fit together, even on most maps available the true size of Africa is not shown. We can fit three to four United States into the content of Africa! Also, Mexico and South America are missing. LOL

-Earth spins 1,000 MPH at the equator. It is slowing down by a fraction of a second. We know it once spun faster. Too fast it would have spun to support evolution if the earth is really millions of years old. Days would be short, wake up, go to bed, wake up, go to bed....LOL

-The Sahara desert was formed by prevailing winds in a process of desertification. It has been studied and concluded that it is about 4,000 years old. If the earth is truly millions/billions years old, why is the desert not bigger than it is today. Well, that is because about 4,000 years ago there was a flood.

Truth is, there is so much evidence that supports the bible to be 100% truth. The earth is actually only 6,000 years old and about 4,000 years ago there was a world wide flood. This flood created the fossil record, the oil, the grand canyon, the mountains and so much more that can be supported by real evidence. I will get into this really soon...Even the Ice Core samples prove the earth is not billions of years old.



We are training our kids to meditate on what man can do. Worshiping idols and what sports athletes do. Wow, he threw a ball in a hoop. Will this matter in 1,000 years. After looking at what God did, and still does, I am not impressed in what man can do.

Psalm 8:4-9

What is man, that thou art mindful of him ? And the son of man, that thou visitest him ? For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. Thou haddest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet: All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field; The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas. O Lord our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth

 

You gotta stop smoking that stuff .....

 

I wish I was smoking. Go look it up bro.There exist a NWO monument in Alberton GA. with the ten goals of their agenda in about 10 different languges....Crazy but true.



Are you starting to learn that with the Evolution world view (humanism) up is really down, and down is really up ?This is their philosophy, it goes 100% against God. I tell you the truth. I am not crazy brother, but a wise servant of God.


THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES
1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

 

Its from Outer Space .... now They will come and get you!

 

LOL

Don't get it mixed, I am not paranoid.

That monument can not be ignored. It's there plan and attitude for the NWO. I did not make it up...

 

I am currently completely ignoring it.

 

You may choose to remain in ignorance. But they will not simply ignore what they have set out to do. That is a certainty. So, it's your choice; you are free to decide.

I hope you do not ignore this thread, I will try my best to write in clarity and understanding and pray that truth be known to those who seek it.