Stoner Thought

Discussion in 'Stoners Lounge' started by smokindude, Feb 10, 2007.

  1. smokindude

    smokindude Senior Member

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    Ok so we have the sun. If you any of you did not know(i bet you all do though) that the sun is our ultimate source of energy. Everything is powerd by the sun for life. So we have the sun, a freakin massive hot ball in the sky giving the power that earth needs for survival....AND SOME SAY THERES NO GOD TO CREATE THIS THING? Idk, it just seems silly to me. If you are atheist, please dont bash. This is strictly my opinion.
     
  2. ripple

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    Sure, something must have created the sun, but why call that something god, why not just energy or chance?
     
  3. RebelGray

    RebelGray Banned

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    you know what else i think is silly? evolutionists think that life was formed by billions of reactions, that would have to happen in the perfect order. right, so try this:

    take ten coins, and label them with the number's one through ten, and put them all in a cup. now try to try draw them all out of the in the perfect order. now try it with over a billion coins.

    I just don't see how they can think a perfectly geometrical universe happened by accident, with no intelligent design.

    but hell, who knows? they could be right
    stoned
     
  4. indian~summer

    indian~summer yo ho & a bottle of yum

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    also everything is really connected by numbers, everything in nature from starfishes to acorns, shells, and even our bodies(skeletons) are all geomatrically designed...
     
  5. Gdeadhead420

    Gdeadhead420 DivineMomentsofTruth

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    Rebelgray.....obviously the chances of things ending up how they have are very unlikely. thats why as far as we know, out of the billions of planets we have observed, earth is the only one to have provided such results and flourished such life. Billions and trillions of planets have failed to imitate earths peculiar conditions, the chances are low that things would take this course, but there is still that chance all the same.
     
  6. digitalldj

    digitalldj Canucks ftw!

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    entities and lifeforms predate geomatry though, so how is that relevent?

    i'm an atheist, but i wont go any furhter then that
     
  7. RebelGray

    RebelGray Banned

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    geometry has existed since the begining of time, the word "geometry" is just our interpretation of it. like a rock, just because it existed before people knew about it, doesnt mean it aint still a rock.
     
  8. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    theres not only one "freakin massive hot ball in the sky".... there are billions!
    they are called stars.
     
  9. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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  11. mr.greenxxx

    mr.greenxxx Not an Average Bear

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    lol owned :p

    im an athiest tho also, and havent got anything unoffensive to conrtibute :/
     
  12. paintballer687

    paintballer687 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    *sigh* That analogy is horrible. That's like saying that you got home from school due to hundreds of footsteps that happened out of chance, yet you arrive home everyday. The matter of fact is that you didn't just randomly decide the direction of your steps out of probability, one step led to the next, each being influenced by your knowledge of how to get home. If you did take a detour and choose a different route that would merely lead to a different destination.

    Evolution works the same way. The beings on Earth are a direct result from the independent changes in DNA that have happened over billions of years. They don't have to occur in a perferct order at all, it just so happens that all of the changes happened to lead to the life we know today. The only thing that's rather vague from the analogy is the laws of Darwinism. Let's say you're a fish in the sea and you constantly have to swim away form larger fish that try to eat you. Let's say that upon your creation you had an independent change in a gene that controls the shape of your fins, in this particular instance it changes the shape in such a way that it allows you to swim faster than other fish of your species. This gives you an advantage to survive; while other fish may be too slow to outswim their predators, you can escape safely, giving you a better chance to survive and reproduce. Upon reproduction your gene to swim faster may be handed down to your offspring, giving them a better chance to survive, reproduce, and pass the gene to their offspring, and so on. Over time, this will become a common gene of your species, and after millions of these mutations occur eventually it will evolve into an entirely new species.
     
  13. paintballer687

    paintballer687 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Absolutely false. Ever since the universe was created there has been geometry.
     
  14. paintballer687

    paintballer687 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Perhaps this is because as species evolve this remains one of the constant features?
     
  15. RebelGray

    RebelGray Banned

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    all that shit went right over my head bro, too bad

    my final 2 cents on the topic is that i beileve in a god, and i beileve that if i put my faith in god i will be rewarded with ever lasting life. but other than that i don't care, cause even if i don't understand why something happens, it's still going to happen anyway. i realized that once i stopped trying to figure everything out, life was a lot more fun
    science is so silly. it's just a bunch of dudes using trivial knowledge to learn more trivial knowledge.
     
  16. paintballer687

    paintballer687 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    You have absolutely no knowledge of the scientific theory; this destroys your arguments credibility and validity. You say this because you were raised in a household that believes the same, if you were raised by phsyicists who explained the logic behind the scientific explanation you would be arguing the opposite.
     
  17. paintballer687

    paintballer687 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    -.-

    Science is silly? If it weren't for science you'd most likely be non existant and if you were you'd be living in a cave, wet, cold, hungry, dirty...
     
  18. RebelGray

    RebelGray Banned

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    well, according to your long ass post up there, if it weren’t for NATURE, I’d be non existent and living in a cave at the same time, or whatever the hell you're talking about. SCIENCE is just us trying to UNDERSTAND NATURE. my point is, take it easy and knock it off with all the religious persecution, this aint the middle ages anymore bro, no need for no crusades, and you can thank science for that :)

    and thats defenitly my final 2 cents.
     
  19. paintballer687

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    I'm not knocking religion in any way, shape, or form; most people here are talking purely arbitrarily without using an ounce of logic, which is the only thing that seperates humans from other animals after all. Science is the laws that governs nature.
     
  20. Ebene

    Ebene Mountaineer

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    All science is are observations and experimentations, Isaac fucking Newton.

    "If it weren't for science you'd most likely be non existant and if you were you'd be living in a cave, wet, cold, hungry, dirty..."

    This is one of the funniest things I've heard all day, besides the kid who was told by Mel Gibson that the world is going to end in 2012. Actually, that kid has more reason than you. So yes, this is one of the funniest things I've heard all day.
    Congrats!
     
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