Stoner intelligence.

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I say it doesnt really necessarily makes you a stupid person if you smoke pot.. sure there are some signs to point out a stoner from the rest of the crowd but a lot of the signs come from fellow stoners.. your complete non-stoner that doesnt even understand any of it at all is not gonna miss some subtle signs that smokers may notice... i'd say there are as many smart stoners as are smart non-smokers... as are alcoholics and non-alcoholics.. decisions you make in your life dont always represent your intelligence level...

 

If you notice that every one here talks about the same thing over and over again with the same amusement, then you're not worthy of being called a stoner, and shouldn't bother with the stoner forum.

I smoke everyday, and my perception is only altered while I'm smoking. I use these forums when I'm stoned and sober, and my grammar and writing skills are just as good either way.

I happen to find enjoyment on these forums because sometimes I get a laugh out of something, or sometimes I get into arguments with someone. It keeps me coming back that's for sure. The stoner forums and the characters that use them are charming enough for me to spend a big part of my internet time on them.

Also, if you only smoke "now and again," you shouldn't be noticing ANY memory problems. The only time I suffer from memory problems is when I'm high, and can't remember what the hell it was I was doing 5 minutes ago.

You also say, "if anyones mental health is going to be a bit wobbly then its the stoner.."

What is that supposed to mean? My mental health is perfectly fine. I've had anxiety problems way before I started smoking marijuana, and if anything it helps!

I would say the people with the mental problems are the people who aren't relaxed and mellow enough. Which are the NON stoners.

 

There is a small amount of interesting content on here.. which is worth looking at.. and its not a club.. stoners are people who smoke cannabis... maybe im not so baked that i find everything interesting.. but some of it is relevant.

Your either lucky or lying.. because theres evidence that some peoples perception/memory is altered while sober..

I suppose that subjective..

The minds of people are so varied that you can't apply set rules as to how and when weed effects you... my memory is definetly worse than when i didnt smoke.

I would have thought that this was my most obvious point... mental health is more liekly to be stable.. when someone lives a non-smoking life because they havent got random altered perceptions of the world every day or so. If your strong you can handle it.. but a weak mind may be badly effected with alternate states of mind.

Sure stoners are often relaxed when high... (although, as everyone knows.. paranoia and anxiety are often affiliated with smoking weed) but weed (or drugs in general) can make a person prtty sketchy when sober.. people do end up in physc wards because of weed.. many don't, agreed.. but your definetly raising the risk of mental illness by a certain percentage if you smoke the ganja.

 

Say what?

 

Ok.. badly phrased.
Here it is again:

Sure some people are relaxed when stoned but some become paranoid.. as is portrayed in many-a film etc. Weed can also make people anxious and nervy while sober.. have you not met anyone like that? I know plenty that seem prtty shady and paranoid when sober because they smoke too much. People have ended up in physc wards because of smoking ganja.. most don't, i agree... but your definetly raising the risk of mental illness if you do smoke.

 

The memory loss part is true, but it only lasts as long as the THC stays in your body. But it is only short term memory loss, and it doesn't affect long term memory.

I am going to say what William Blake once said: "To generalize is to be an idiot".

We don't all have poor grammar, we're not all shaggy-looking weed-smelling people, etc.

 

I didn't generalize.. i'm not saying every stoner is thick or somethinmg... but i am saying that weed effects some people in a bad way..

i am a shaggy layabout with long hair for the record.

 

I don't see why a monkey should criticize other monkeys. Just live together in peace. Weed is good.

Affect, not effect. You could use effect but not there.

 

well i think that most of the stoners that i know are of average or better intelligence. there are a few exceptions to this but for the most part all of the stoners i know are averagely smart and not extremely dumb. i would like to point out that there are far worse drugs then marijuana for your mental and physical health. many perscriptions have way worse side effects then marijuana both short term and long term. take alcohol for example that can become physicaly and mentally addictive. the one good aspect of smoking marijuana is you cant get physically addicted to it. sure you do get mentally addicted to it but its much easier to quit if need be. i think smoking weed should be used like drinking a beer. its good to just relax kick back and smoke a pipe same goes for beer right? they are both drugs but marijuana is definatly much safer then many of the prescription drugs out there and then even alot of the over-the-counter drugs.

as for grammer and typing skills why does that matter on a forum?? as long as we can tell what someone is trying to convey then whats the difference. i dont really bother with my grammer to well but i really try to keep my spelling as good as i can because if its not then words can get confusing. you make it sound like we are posting on these forums like its some kind of writing contest to see whos the best and win the big grand prize.

 

Well said!

 

amen to that... it just depends on how the person smoking takes it (mentaly not physically), me, i like to meditate when i am high. but i already do that when i am sober, being high just gives me a new appreciation for it. depends on experience too.. knowing how to control your high, also if youve been doing it a long time it kind of gets routine so its not as much of a thrill, therefor its just like carrying on normal day to day activities. you get used to it. it doestnt make you stupid, not necessarily. lazy yes stupid no Lol!!

 

Why do you think that marijuana changes one's perception of the world?

Sure maybe the world is pretty fucking great while stoned, but otherwise life is the same.
I smoke in the evening, and every evening. And I've been smoking this way since I stopped breastfeeding which was about 6 months ago. So 6 months of perpetual smoking. I wasn't smoking during the pregnancy or for about 6 months before the pregnancy. And of course when I run out of pot, and I have to go one or two days without it. I use marijuana to relax. To lose all inhibitions, and to truly enjoy myself. I don't drive, or do much outside of my house stoned. So I take it in the safest way possible.

I suffer 0 memory problems. I have the best long term memory of anyone in my family, and I can remember facts in detail down to what someone was wearing, or what we ate that day for as far back as the age of 7 or so. This is for certain occasions of course, not every single day of my life.

My short term memory is affected occasionaly, and that's only when I'm talking to someone, or while I'm stoned.

Currently I'm reading Stephen King's The Stand, which is a 1000 paged book. I read at least 20 pages a night, and this is usually while I'm coming down from my high.

I also prepare dinner, take care of my child, and clean the house while stoned. There is just no possible way that one could call me stupid. The only thing that is different about me is that I'm happy, smiling, and my mind is clear of all fears and anxiety. So since this is coming from someone who smokes every single day, and has been for the past 6 months and counting...

I'd say that pot hasn't affected me negatively in the least! If it's done anything at all, it's been done to my wallet!

I'm sorry that you feel that us stoners around here aren't very intelligent because the majority of us are. It's those few kids who make the rest of us look like morons.

 

ok i read this just now and i agree, i didnt think of it in that perspective. still though, if someone can do it in moderation which im pretty skilled at myself lol, they'll be cool.. just keep your friends family close at heart, i always thought that once a drug or addiction of some kind, any kind really, starts to come btwn you and reality, family, or your firneds you have to chill out for awhile.. and not let those perceptions you face get to you..

 

I don't care how you justify your opinion here, but you are definitely wrong. Pot isn't going to send anyone to the psych ward. If a pot smoker ends up there it's because they had mental problems to begin with, and the people around him attributed his problems to the smoking of pot, or drugs in general.

It's very ignorant of you to assume that a pothead is DEFINITELY raising the risk of mental illness by smoking. Why don't you try educating yourself before you make such a remark. Do you know anything at all about mental illness, and the people who suffer from them?

 

this is the one thing thats true for all of us stoners.

this is where it makes alot of us seem stupid because when kids first start smoking they are dumb and dont know what being high is. some people are just completely retarded either high or sober and thats what people base their opinion from as a "stoner". also so clear something else up me and all of my friends smoke daily so we would be concidered stoners. although we do smoke everyday we dont smoke all day long (some do but majority dont) most people i know dont really smoke unless they know they dont have anything important to do for the day.

 

Yea I could never smoke all day long, only at the end of the day. Otherwise I wouldn't get anything done.

 

Yeah, I only smoke at night too. Except for today.... And to the OP, you say that weed alters your perception of the world??? Alchol does too. Not to mention it accounts for 50% of all car crashes and 25% of all murders. Weed has never killed anybody. Even if weed messes up a few lives here and there, its no where near as many as alchol destroys. So why should alchol be legal and not weed?

 

I said the same thing! How can one think that weed changes your perception of the world?! It's just crap what this guy is saying. He's just trying to sound smart. He's in the wrong place obviously.

 

I think that many people who are laid back are viewed as slow in our somewhat neurotic and hyper anxious society. To my mind (a drug addled one, mind you) intelligence and the speed with which you respond to stimulus are not the same thing, as motivation is often the key factor. I think the issue with intelligence has more to do with the depressant effects of THC.

I don't smoke anymore due to some medical problems, but I used to heavily. I'm definitely noticing more memory problems now, but my memory was bad before i started smoking, and it might just be a natural progression for me.

As far as agreeing or disagreeing with you, I'm kind of ambiguous as I think there are a lot of other factors that go into this (Prior Mental Problems, Health Issues, and also what type of weed you're smoking).

I don't know why you think it's strange to hear the same thing discussed in hundreds of threads, I mean, It's the stoner forum dude! Of course everyone is going to talk about weed. Take a gander in the Dead/Phish forums and you will see it's all about them.