Someone explain this? (matter related)

So it is a widespread belief that matter does not exist, but is simply a form of energy that is created by our minds. Everything we see is a projection.

Our physical body is also made out of matter. But.. without the body, the brain wouldn't exist. In fact, the brain itself is made out of matter. So that's a paradox. Doesn't that disprove that matter exists only thru perception, since perception is in fact an act of the brain?

 

What's the matter?

 

If everything we see is a projection, it would mean you are talking about a projection when you say 'matter'.

its a tautology.

 

I wouldn't say the formula was redundant. The paradox is not in reality but in the way the sentences portray self negating perspectives.

 

If you mean matter is ultimately Light. I agree, that is energy. But there is the unseperable substantial, the stuff elsewhere for the lighted appearance, and there is also the my motion for energy being balanced by the self-related Thing. Is that existing at the same time? :devil:

 

Where does Einstein stand on this?

 

He is no longer standing.

 

The stable velocity of light was perceived propagated, but how does it get propagated? Some motion of objects.... in a unified field of derived observable Things determined for the energy of ME perceiving.:sultan: Or is it that only I could determine the Things? The determination seems to regard indeterminately more objects of a field: like eating, sleeping, lowering my blood....

 

Isn't that what matter is...energy?
Just bundled up in one place that we can see it enough, and actually touch and feel it (and taste it!)

Unless, it's different than energy, and is a perception that everyone perceives differently. For example, I see my computer as the color black, but to somebody else, although they would also say it is the color black, really see it as bumpy. Bumpy to them means black to me. Almost as though we all have our own languages that we only understand, and we're all wrong in our descriptions so it all works out, because we all see the things differently, because we imagine them up differently...

I don't know... >.<

 

Hello everyone.

What is this belief called? Where did you hear that? I've thought something similar before.

Assuming that something must exist somewhere to bring forth awareness it may be that what we are aware of isn't real reality. That everything we are aware of is like a dream, that the reality we know is only a construct of the mind and exist only within, or as you said projected from the mind.

This means that the mind exists elsewhere and does not originate from the physical brain. That the something that exists is a bundle of imagination that is imagining the mind which is projecting it's own reality. Or that the mind popped into existence from nothing big-bang style.

However this is just concept manipulation. The brain works by taking in information, without information, without something to perceive, there is no perception. Our minds do no create information, only gather, rearrange and attempt to understand.

So maybe it's not that matter is a projection of the mind, but the mind projects it's own version of matter, and then sees its version as truth.

 

That's just a realistic convenience, but now we can not so any better now that Einstein didn't solve the unified field. We don't all imagine differently. Some limit themselves after they perceive in the active field, some believe in the energy to get in limited time to enact a field. That's realism; our bodies are subdued to limitations as well...

 

In the blink of an eye.

 

Sounds about right, thanks for that.

 

You can't just assume that the brain is good at telling what reality is in the first place to say that it works as it perceives itself to work. We can't even view ourselves in an empirical time frame. So really we don't and can't know what is definitely going on.

All we can really do is use it to complete tasks that the majority of us deem interesting or entertaining. But that doesn't mean that, just because the things we can accomplish seem great to us, that they are objectively very good. They might actually be ridiculous.

So no, you can't look at your brain and say, "That's me, matter."

 

the objects of which you speak are merely the carriers of a field force. the reason you don't go straight through the floor is actually an electromagnetic phenomenon. matter is simply what it is called when certain field properties overlap.
as for the mind, it is capable of making abstractions from sensory stimuli, and the world you perceive is a form of that abstraction; consequently, certain details get lost and potential challenges to our fairly stable worldview generally get ignored. quantum mechanics is weird because it's not how our minds work. it's at such a tiny scale that the same rules do not apply.