Some Facts on 9/11

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by Lucifer Sam, Nov 4, 2004.

  1. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    Facts about the September 11th Attacks and American Terrorism


    • In 1962, the Operation Northwoods plan, which was outlined in a document given to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, called for the downing of American aircraft and attacks on American facilities that were to then be blamed on the government of Fidel Castro as a pretext for war with Cuba. This proves that the US government had, previous to September 11, 2001, considered attacking its own people to rally support for military action.
    • In October 2000, the US Army’s Military District of Washington carried out the Pentagon Mass Casualty Exercise in which they were prepared for the possibility of a terrorist attack on the Pentagon by a passenger jet. The US government, however, has consistently stated that no one could have imagined a terrorist attack, previous to September 11, 2001, involving the crashing of passenger jets into buildings.
    • Prior to 9/11, the US government received thirty-six or more specific warnings indicating that the designated suspects, Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, were planning to crash aircraft into buildings. Many of these warnings included New York and Washington as targets.
    • On the morning of September 11, 2001, the US intelligence agency was running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if an errant plane were to strike one of four towers of a government building (the National Reconnaissance Office in Chantilly, Virginia).
    • Immediately after the September 11th attacks, a pronouncement of guilt was given before any investigation was carried out.
    • Much of what physical evidence existed has been destroyed without examination.
    • The case that 9/11 was perpetrated solely by Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda has never been proven in any way.
    • Over 37 months after the attacks, there has not been a single successful 9/11 prosecution anywhere in the world.
    • The only conviction that has been secured, a German prosecution against Mounir el Motassadeq, charged with aiding the so-called Hamburg cell of Mohammed Atta, was overturned in 2004 because the US government refused to produce key witnesses and evidence relevant to the charges.
    These are just a few interesting facts about September 11th that I thought you people might find interesting.
     
  2. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    Thanks for posting this in here and not anywhere else, these young people need to get off drugs and know about this shit.
     
  3. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    Yep, the government is quite responsible for it... I don't understand why people refuse to believe something like that could happen... It did happen... I suppose they are just too scared to accept the consequences of the fact that their own government would sacrafice U.S. citizens like that...
     
  4. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    Yeah. Also, the scary thing is that these few facts are just the very tip of the iceberg. Over the next few weeks, or months, I am going to compile as many facts on the attacks as I can. Then, people can formulate their own opinions once the facts have been truthfully laid out.
     
  5. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    Exactly, that's what a lot of it is. People are simply too naive to believe it could happen.

    But what do expect? The government TOLD us it was those darned Arabs who did it. If the government said it, it HAS to be true. The Bush Administration would NEVER lie. :rolleyes:
     
  6. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    show some references, like a true academic.
     
  7. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    I believe this is from the book Crossing the Rubicon, but these facts I have seen all over the internet countless times. I am going to try and win this book off ebay; they're not selling it anywhere around here.
     
  8. lover/young_peace

    lover/young_peace Senior Member

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    :eek:

    Eh... okay I need to... go... sleep or something.
     
  9. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    Ruppert, Michael C. Crossing the Rubicon. New Society Publishers, 2004. Gabriola Island, Canada.


    You can check out his book and his 40 pages of footnotes if you want sources. Every fact is documented.
     
  10. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    I'm glad that you're trying to get a copy. I just started reading it tonight, and I haven't even gotten through the introduction, but I've already learned so much. This ought to be a very interesting read.
     
  11. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    haha, I figured you made it through the first few chapters already.....are you typing/writing as you go along?
     
  12. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing. I want to condense the book into a quick reference guide of solid facts to refer back to.
     
  13. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    How many pages have you gone through to get all these typed up?
     
  14. NikkiLou6387

    NikkiLou6387 ~peace~

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    i just wanted to get this back to the top. the jets used in the attacks were not consistent with the appearence of the jets that they were claimed to be. i heard this on that radio show.... sheesh what's it called.... coast to coast. anywho, they had it on the webpage with specific detailed facts, i dunno if they still do. but basically, they analyzed the description of the planes that were claimed to have hit the towers, and the videos of the planes, and they were completely different. they also noticed a 'bulge' on the bottom of the planes, that could not be explained by aircraft staff, which is theorized as being a missle. also the hole in the wall of the pentagon, was much too big to be from just the plane, it had to have been some sort of missle. happy conspiracy theorizing!
     
  15. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    Actually, the hole was too small for a plane to have hit it.

    Conspiracy theory? In case you didn't notice, I posted documented FACTS about 9/11, not theories.
     
  16. NikkiLou6387

    NikkiLou6387 ~peace~

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    yes you posted facts upon which people can strtch via their imaginations and produce conspiracy theories. for example:

    In 1962, the Operation Northwoods plan, which was outlined in a document given to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, called for the downing of American aircraft and attacks on American facilities that were to then be blamed on the government of Fidel Castro as a pretext for war with Cuba. This proves that the US government had, previous to September 11, 2001, considered attacking its own people to rally support for military action.


    you could then theorize that the government planned 9/11. however, we have no strict proof of this.

    In October 2000, the US Army’s Military District of Washington carried out the Pentagon Mass Casualty Exercise in which they were prepared for the possibility of a terrorist attack on the Pentagon by a passenger jet. The US government, however, has consistently stated that no one could have imagined a terrorist attack, previous to September 11, 2001, involving the crashing of passenger jets into buildings.

    you could theorize that they were practicing for the governmentally planned 9/11. but it doesn't say (not that you provided me with) that they have never done practices like this previously, etc. that is what i mean by theorizing. someone already mentioned that they know that it was the government's doing. that is theorization. it hasn't been proved.
     
  17. NikkiLou6387

    NikkiLou6387 ~peace~

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NikkiLou6387
    also the hole in the wall of the pentagon, was much too big to be from just the plane, it had to have been some sort of missle.

    Actually, the hole was too small for a plane to have hit it.

    ok. idk i heard this a long time ago, so it had the telephone game effect on me
     
  18. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    Also I don't think a handful of terrorists could hijack a plane with only a few box cutters... I for one would have fucking done something about it if I was on the plane... :rolleyes:
     
  19. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    How about this one. From the time the first airliner went awol, till the plane hit the pentagon was one hour fifty minutes. No jets were yet scrambled by norad.

    when payne stewarts lear jet lost contact with the tower, (8 people on board), in 20 minutes norad had jets alongside it.
     
  20. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    Then there is also how when the towers went down, the explosions started at the bottom...
     
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