Some deep questions...

I have some questions regarding men and women that I have not been able to satisfactorally answer, I would appreciate input on these - especially from women - as I am a man and may not be able to see things from a woman's point of view. I am serious about these and don't want any smart ass responses. I am going to pose the question and then the best answer I have been able to figure out. If I am wrong, please inform me.

1) If a woman CAN fake an orgasm, then how can a man ever KNOW FOR SURE that he has given her one? ie. satisfied her?

My best answer so far - He can't.

2) If a woman is leading a full life - career (or job, at least), circle of friends, fairly self sufficient, etc. then why does she need a man?


My best answer so far - she doesn't. For children there are sperm banks, for sex there is masturbation, for companionship there is her circle of friends, for support there is her career.

3) I think that love is an illusion - prove me wrong.

My best answer so far - I have never seen it. All relationships I have seen are based on mutual need - practicallity, not love.

 

1) he can't. he can be pretty sure, but not completely.

2) she doesn't. she still wants one for the same reasons a man wants a woman though. plus, women seem to have an extra need for a relationship beyond that. i think it must be social conditioning or something, but for some reason most women seem to consider themselves complete failures if they don't have a man of their own, no matter what else they have going for them.

3) that's not a question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIX0ZDqDljA"]The rolling stones-You can't always get what you want - YouTube

 

1) If a woman fakes an orgasm, then she doesn't want to be satisfied, because she is already satisfied. Who cares if the man will ever know. He wants to know if she satisfied, and that he will anyway.
2) She needs the man to help her raise the children. A woman can masturbate, but she can't kiss or hug herself, and neither can she do so many other things.
3) Illusion is probably not the best word choice. But I also think, that love is not what many of us think it is. We love someone if that someone fulfills us. If that someone makes us feel important, or better superior to others. Love is selfish.

 

sounds like what someone would tell themselves after finding out their woman has been faking orgasms.

 

1) No, he can't. But if you bother to communicate with your partner, you can find out what gets her off and do that.

2) Some women don't need men because they are lesbians. Others want one because we enjoy being a family. It's really hard to juggle everything alone.

3) You can't understand love in someone else's relationship, you have to experience it for yourself. If you insist that it doesn't exist and reject it, I guess you will be alone. Have fun with that.

 

Normally we would not want to fake because having a real O is way better. Sometimes we'll fake because we want men to think they have satisfied us. Why do we want men to think that, you might ask? Because they NEED it. Yep, on ocassion, we women do what men need.

People need people....we are a social species. There are many many men to choose from, but not all of them are pleasant or fun or smart or nice looking or funny or generous or ambitious or successful or self-assured; shall I go on? So, at the rare times we come across those traits, we kind of glob on for dear life. An ultimately, finding a suitable father-type becomes important.

Love can only exist if each person doesn't consider the other an extension of themself. In other words, it's not what they can do for you, but what you can do for them. It's is the most gracious and giving of elements that make love possible. It's SO rare, I agree.

 

Oh, no. I am a woman. Thank god

 

1) If a woman CAN fake an orgasm, then how can a man ever KNOW FOR SURE that he has given her one? ie. satisfied her?

I'd have to say that going down on a woman and bringing her to the point of orgasm slowly but surely....and in those last 30 seconds or so before she comes, touching her anus ever so gently with the tip of a finger and applying slight pressure, feeling it slowly open and the finger entering little by little, and then the pulsations, listening to her breathing rate, and the sounds she makes......yeah, I for one would be pretty sure she hadn't faked it.

 

1) Feelings (we all have these ... but seems only some of us
are aware of this.)

2) Instinct

3) yes, 'love' is a form of insanity linked to Instincts. in other words the state of 'love' is a form of Life's longing for Itself. the latter should not be confused with the deep appreciation one may form with a partner over time.

hope that helps.

 

O.K., people... PLEASE, no bickering among each other and no advice on sex. I really want serious answers to these questions or I wouldn't have bothered to take your time and ask. Some corollary questions:

4) If a man can't know for sure wheather he has given a women an orgasm, then why bother? I, for one, do not need reassurance in the form of a lie.

5) What ever happened to self sufficiency? Is cuddling and hugging worth selling yourself to a man in the form of marriage or a relationship? Yes, it is better to have help raising a child. But the world does not need more children. Is this the sole goal of women?

Re: 3) - I would rather go through life alone than live in an illusion. This would also be very unfair to any woman who thought I was in love with her and based her love for me on this. I can find the strength to be alone.

 

4) do you mean the man or the woman? the man would generally try in hopes of getting to have sex with her again. the woman, i dunno. i guess to get him to stop.

5) have you ever known a self sufficient woman? if self sufficiency was a thing and something happened to it, it happened before my time.

you really can't tell people how to reply to a thread. trying to do so just makes people not want to do what you ask.

 

he can so, nyah nyah na-nyah nyah

*pokes out tongue*

 

All she has to do is say "please stop". An explanation, like "I'm getting sore" or something is also nice - Never a lie. If she will lie about having an orgasm what else will she lie about?

You are being very insulting to women - many are self sufficient and independant. Did you miss the whole women's lib thing of the 60's?

By the way - I've noticed that you answer a lot of posts and most of your answers - I'minmyunderwear - are not particularly helpful. Do you have nothing to do all day but be a smartass? Your icon seems appropriate.

 

yeah, that would work too, but it seems to be less common anyway.

yes i did, i wasn't born until well after the 60s. anyway, i'm just answering what i've personally observed. i didn't realize that you weren't looking for honest answers.

i have plenty of things to do. being a smartass is just one of them.

i also make several helpful posts. some people just fail to get the point of them.

 

Honest , yes. Sarcastic, no. Don't answer any more of my posts. All the rest of you, you are welcome.

 

answer.

 

1. because they are tired of getting pounded on and don't want to hurt their partners feelings so they are just trying to facilitate a happy ending for the guy

2. women need men to bring home the beer and open the bottles

3. love is where you find it - or in your chase you're probably never going to find it with that attitude

 

FUCK ALL OF YOU!!! I come here to pose a serious question and get absolutely no help. I can see that you are all just worthless jerk offs who stand by and drool at the oportunity to put down people who are sincerely searching for answers to questions that are important to them. MY MISTAKE! Expecting to get any intelligent input from any of you was an obvious overestimation of your ability to care. I surely won't be coming back to ask any more. But ask yourselves... how pathetic are all of you when you do not have anything better to do than victimize those who trust you. There is a special place in hell for those who betray trust. Read Dante. That is if any of you can read.

 

Dante's inferno isn't Scripture...

Anyway I got sidetracked and am a serious poster here.

Pm me some questions if you want if your still around.

 

Just because, we don't say what you want to hear, doesnt mean that we are stupid or careless. We just have our own opinions, isn't that what you asked for. But my guess is that you already know the answer, and you are mad because nobody comes up with the same answer as you have in your mind. That makes you feel lonely and angry. But you should know that our happiness is within us, it should not be dependent upon what others say to you. You are being insulting for no reason. I really feel bad for you, it must be horrible being as frustrated as you are.