So, when is the U.S. gonna start the air strikes in Syria?

What makes you think that?

I don't trust Putin's motives at all. That said, nor do I want the United States to get involved in that Syrian mess, regardless of who used chemical weapons.

 

Can you believe what Putin had published in the New York Times this morning? He's not going to get the public reaction he wanted. We don't care to hear that kind of shit from him. It's going to motivate more people to support Obama.

 

Yeah, I read the piece. At the end I thought to myself: "that was rich coming from Putin". I especially like the part where he said something like "The law is the law, regardless of whether we like it or not". Except when you're in Putin's Russia of course.

 

Pretty sure he doesn't give a shit what the american citizens think about him.

 

Then why publish a piece specifically aimed at the American people in a major newspaper? Of course he wants to come off as like able to your average American. If he didn't do you think he would really expect his piece to be taken seriously?

 

:2thumbsup:

 

You keep saying that America has the military power and Russia and China don't. How the hell do you know?
China not being able to take Taiwan? Yeah right.
Seems like you are talking the same uninformed crap like everyone else.

 

Uhm, he is just trying to influence them?

 

Propaganda. Trust the Russians to know how to handle that. :2thumbsup:

 

And do you think he can influence your average American citizen without coming across as likable?

 

Because it has been a field of study for mine for some years now.

I have explained why China is incapable of militarily taking Taiwan at this current time. Their main problem is logistics. They simply don't have the sealift or airlift capacity to sustain the scale of operations that would be required to seize that island. Could they land troops? Most certainly. In the numbers required? This is where their problems start. Assuming for a moment that they could land troops in sufficient numbers, they still do not have the logistical capacity to make sure those troops are supplied properly to carry out their mission.

So, why do you think they could?

 

Pure numbers. Not based on anything more than that. If you got a billion people in your country and more groundtroops than the US (is what I read), I assume you could take a relatively small country, even if it is an island.

Also, I doubt that any outsider knows their exact arsenal. You might study it, but I doubt you visited all factories and counted their hardware. Even if you read the 'official' reports, doesn't mean it is correct and they are open about everything. If anything, China is still almost as closed and secretive as it has been in the past, especially when it comes to their military.

 

Depends how he goes at it haha. He could definately influence some average americans. But I still stand by my remark that he essentially doesn't give a shit about them and what they think. If he can influence them somewhat though that would all be advantage.

 

But how would they get those troops there, Bird?

Also, pure numbers don't win wars. That was shown in Korea.

Certainly true to a certain extent. Still, I am basing my position off of actual numbers and demonstrated capabilities. You're going off nothing but "but they have a lot of people".

 

No clue how to get the troops there, like I say it's all based on assumptions.
Still, basic math shows they could kick the crap out of most countries in the world.

You are indeed better informed in their 'official' numbers if you made it your field of study, can't argue that.
Still, even though you might have read and studied the subject more, what do we really know?
Are you really that more informed than the next guy or are you just fooled to believe and hear the things they want you to?
Don't you think there are more thing you don't know than things you do know? That doesn't go for just the Chinese military.

 

That word is the problem.

 

That's what we all are doing all the time. And if we are all doing it, is it really a problem?

 

The thing is, war is so much more than basic math. It is has been proven time and time again that numbers don't always win wars.

I have studied there numbers, doctrine, and future plans. They still have a long way to go before they are in a position to force the strait on, let alone deal with a possible US intervention.

 

Completely agree that it is much more than just numbers. But it sure helps.

I heard opposite stories too, that they are well-equiped and ready to deal with anything. I read of a modern Chinese army that rivals Israel's level to an obsolete army that is stuck in the 80's. What or who to believe?
I suppose it depends on where you read and what you read and on perspective.

Anyway, back to Syria. War seems to be avoided for now.

 

That is your assumption. I don't agree.