Should circumcision without consent be illegal?

Should parents be able to make a decision where the "benefits" (if they really do exist) don't really have an advantage till they have sex, and then the individual can decide for themselves whether they want to use a condom or depend on some flaky evidence of std prevention.

I think Men/Boys should have the right to experience their whole body as it was designed to work.

I restored my foreskin and have seen a huge difference, so I can't see circumcision as anything but mutilation

 

I say parents have the right. I was circumcised and damnit I will circumcise my son that I will never have.

There's a megathread about this in the men's forum though

This will in fact turn into a shit storm soon, don't believe me, look at the megathread.

 

If I ever have a boy [doubtful as I dont want kids] he would be circ'd for sure.

 

Cutting up a new born baby. I can't say common sense tells me there are any benefits in doing that.

 

But it's NORMAL to cut up your kids junk, and totally gross to have a little more skin on your johnson!:coffee:


Uncut here, and I can't see ANY benefit to being cut... I know it never hurts a lot of people, but it DOES hurt others. I know my dad had a botched cut, and has pretty much been ranting about it at any appropriate (and some not so appropriate) chance he gets, and has been working to restore himself. I guess that's been going better, since I haven't heard much in a while. But I personally can clearly see the lack of any disadvantages to being uncut, and the possible disadvantages to being cut.


Let your kid decide, whatever your opinion on it, letting them wait couldn't possibly hurt anything. The worst that could happen is... Nothing. If they want it they'll have it done, either way they should appriciate the respect from you, for not chasing after your newborns genitals with a scalpal...

It's purely cosmetic surgery, to someones dick. That's a damn big choice. It's like your parents giving a newborn a tattoo or piercing... Unless there's a religious reason for it, it should NOT be done. (and even then, really, the child should be able to decide once they're old enough to understand the religion)

 

I think everything be illegal without consent and legal with consent.

and well said RooRshack

 

If I am elected I will circumcise fucking everyone of every age!


................with a blow torch

 

Well at the age where your parents have a say so in the situation you are obviously a baby.

So the conversation would go something like this:

''Do you mind me circumcising you son?

....Goo Goo Gah Gah Gah.

Good, get the clippers.''

So, I don't think it needs consent. It has religious benefit and as a non-religious person, I am constantly reminded that we should all obey Gods orders strictly- and no picking and choosing is allowed.

 

It should 100% be illegal to circumcise babies.

Religious beliefs or not, you are mutilating a child.

It is not a health issue in anyway as some claim, although there may be isolated incidences where it is due to specific conditions with a child.

We don't allow it to happen to girls in most developed countries, why would we allow it for boys?

 

Personally, I just think it's totally messed up. I mean, I do not plan on having my child circumcised. (If I have a child at all.) Idk, it seems like unneeded cruelty.

You're born with it for a reason....

 

Because you can not compare female circumcision to male circumcision.

 

They are both cutting off parts of the body you are born with, how can you not compare them?

 

Because you're trivializing a serious issue by doing so. Would you compare losing an appendix to losing your legs? Men who are circumcised generally lead fantastic sex lives, circumcision is a routine procedure even for older males when sometimes required. You can argue parts of the genitals are being cut off but the fact remains studies(not like you can really study this aside from just asking) have shown men in general report the same satisfaction in sex afterwards.

Plus the fact is there are legitmate medical reasons to circumcise, nothing that can't be corrected with proper bathing to be clean and use of condoms to stop the spread of disease, but they still exist.

Female circumcision is specifically to deny a girl sexual pleasure to maintain virginity to have a larger value for marriage. It's the removal of the clitoris(and sometimes sewing of the vagina shut), most women need clitoral stimulation to achieve orgasm.

If male circumcision involved the removal of the whole head of the penis, then yes they would be comparable.

 

I agree with your basic concept that male circumcision is trivial compared to women. However, it doesn't change the fact that they are both the mutilation of the bodies we are born with.

And the thing about it being for medical reasons that are related to proper bathing... no, that is a parenting issue, not a health one.

 

No most of the medical reasons are the fact circumcision has in almost every case from herpes to HIV been shown to reduce transmission rates. The bathing thing is more minor, but it's not even parenting, you can tell your son non stop to make sure he washes under his dick, but I mean it's hard enough to get a kid to take a bath period, let alone get a 7 year old to make sure they wash their dick. I know was told and never really did as a kid unless I noticed a lot of goop piling up under it.(yes i'm cut but it's a loose cut with really only like 1/2 the head exposed normally, so still needs good washing, oh wow way too much information)

Back to the main point though, I will circumcise all of you with blow torches..........

or guitar strings.

Your choice.

 

You can tell your kids much without them learning. Thats why you don't just tell them, you teach them. What you said is like saying you can tell them to wipe their ass but they aren't going to listen. Besides which, if so many parents weren't uptight freaks about the human body, they would have a much better chance of teaching them how to care for themselves.

And yes, most definitely more info then I needed, but hey, I would rather that then not enough info...lol

and if you insist, I would suggest piano wire over guitar strings...

 

oh and the whole std thing.... considering that babies aren't having sex, using that as an excuse to mutilate a baby is nonsensical...

And as an adult who is having sex, each person can make the decision for themself.

 

True, but it goes back to the whole reason why circumcision exists at a young age to begin with, parents doing what they think is best for their child.


And no, guitar string, the low E string so it's not even one of the high sharp ones.

 

Well, as a parent, I know what it means to want to do the best for my child.

And you know what? Not once did my mind ever say, "oh I know what would be a good for my child, lets cut some parts off."

as for the low e string... I may have an alternate suggestion of what you could do with it...

 

Well honestly as a 15 year old teenager. Im against circumcision as a baby. So is everyone else in my school against it. I have not met a person yet where it came up was for it.