Should Britain Withdraw From Iraq?

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Peace-Phoenix, Jul 16, 2007.

  1. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    The question's, well, in the question....
     
  2. phoenix_indigo

    phoenix_indigo dreadfully real

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    i voted for a phased withdrawl though don't think it should take 12 months. i also don't think they could just pull out say tomorrow leaving the discord they've caused behind.

    and as a note when i say "they" i mean both the US and British armies. then again, maybe the british troops could just up and leave the Americans in there, and have them do the phased withdrawl but we definitely should not be having this same discussion in another year that is for sure.

    in my opinion they should have been out of there ages ago.
     
  3. Jesly

    Jesly Banned

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  4. paulfreespirit

    paulfreespirit Senior Member

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    considering that we should never had got into this unjust illegal war in the first place my vote has been cast
     
  5. dapablo

    dapablo redefining

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    I've gone for phased withdrawel because I don't thinbk we should just leave the common people to the whims of the thugs.
     
  6. skimpot

    skimpot Member

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    ok I was joking but such a difficult question:eek:


    So I voted for the option most related to never.
     
  7. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    Immediate withdrawal to be replaced with a multinational pan-Arab UN force protecting government and civil infrastructure. Oh yes, what government and civil infrastructure?:rolleyes:
     
  8. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    I think a phased withdrawal would be more suitable than an outright pack up and leave strategy.
     
  9. experimenting youth

    experimenting youth Member

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    I think we should stay as long as it takes, ok I think we should never have went there, but now we've caused a lot of trouble and hopefully it will not have been in vain at the end of it. But who says the trouble will be over in 12 months, we have to sort it out properly.
     
  10. IlUvMuSIc

    IlUvMuSIc Senior Member

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    I think we should have a phased withdrawel. We made the mess. We should clean it up.
     
  11. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    Each day we are sending in more british soldiers as young as 18. This war unlike Vietnam, will not end. we will lose unless we withdraw troops now. I think an immdeite withdrawel should be done. Let america fight a losing cause. More fool them. Bring our british soldiers home.
     
  12. MoxDragon

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    United Nations troops should be the only foreign military forces to intercede in the affairs of any other nation state..with the backing of the UN obviously.

    The problem is that a withdrawal of forces will lead to lawlessness and mayhem, full scale civil war would break out in Iraq if the US forces followed the UK example and left, destabalising the whole region, partly by giving Iran a pretext for invading Iraq.

    Yet allied troops are considered as much as an enemy as the Iranian armed forces would be and their presence only incites violence and resentment, Iraq will not be 'healed' until it regains national identity and national pride.

    Thus the only way to protect civilians and resources yet allow Iraq to regain its pride and identity is by withdrawing allied troops and replacing them with UN peace keeping forces.

    The UN ethos must be respected by the US and other nations, the US in particular should recognise that it must mend its ways with its arrogant and dismissive treatment of the UN, unilateral action and anti green policymaking are but a one fingered salute to every other nation on earth..the US should lead by example..but it acts like a fuedal war lord, taking and killing because it can.

    The rule of law must be respected, it is for our collective benefit, national or international.

    Failiure to comply will result in a breakdown of order.
     
  13. MoxDragon

    MoxDragon Member

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    ahem...no offence america!
     
  14. Azog 150

    Azog 150 Member

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    A phased withdrawal but over a shorter period- say 6 months?
     
  15. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    edited=not a Brit.[​IMG]
     
  16. little ski

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  17. tomandhismuse

    tomandhismuse Banned

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    I voted for a phased withdrawal, purely so we can wipe our feet and clean up all the crap on our way back out.
     
  18. Bonsai Ent

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    Given that (according to all Iraqi sources) Iraq is lawless, unsafe and engaged in a de facto civil war, I can't really see that withdrawal is going to worsen the situation.

    Our military presence is not increasing security, and is incapable of bringing stability to the region.

    Attempts to engineer their society have been clumsy and reckless, we need to let them solve their own problems.

    The only function the forces currently serve is that of maintaining the green zones, so our precious media can have safe hotels when they visit.

    That and intimidating the "democratic" government of Iraq into not putting any crazy ideas like "control of their own oil supplies" into the nations constitution.

    Not to mention the massive drain on national resources during a time of economic slowdown.
     
  19. j700

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    I think we should carry on and conquer the middle east and north Africa and bring some civilisation to those people.
    Especially in the countries where the death cult known as Islam has taken hold
     
  20. Bonsai Ent

    Bonsai Ent Member

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    lol bring civilisation by behaving like barbarians?

    Hey maybe for a follow-up we can cook some beef by freezing it and put out a fire with a flame-thrower :p
     

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