Searching for 'it' (while on lsd, and 'it' is undefined)

Now this is something that occured on most of my trips, somewhere when the effects fully start I get the feeling something is missing and that I need to go find it. Its not the intire trip, usually just moments until I get myself distracted and sometimes a place remains 'it' for a while..

But each trip I get the feeling again at some point, that something is missing and that I need to go find it. Everyone I tripped with so far agreed and had the feeling too although everyone uses different words for it. Also on a dutch drugs forum quite some people got the need to wander on LSD and search for something.

I had this stronger my first few trips, the last two it was only a few moments.

 

i think its just because the act of looking for something, or just walking somewhere, is a very easy and automatic action. good for helping with the body load.

when things get a bit too much i always have to walk somewhere. it just helps to keep myself together. i know what you mean with the something missing though. i always find myself waiting for something.. thats why i believe its much better to get on with a walk in the countryside or something. nothing better imo.

 

I agree with that, although its hard to find country side in the middle of the city. I often trip at psychedelic trance parties which are usually located just outside of the city, and then I usually end up wandering all around the place. Even in the city though I go outside atleast for a bit every trip.
Its indeed nice to walk in a trip.

 

Cool, yeah there is nothing id rather be doing whilst tripping really.
I love the way at night plants, shrubs and trees look so alien and so full of life. like I can feel how alive they are.

Maybe this feeling is something to do with learning to use the lsd properly, or at least using it to a fuller potential, i dunno im quite stoned hehe, sounds good to me though lol

 

Yeah trees at night look great. I'm not sure if it has to do with learning to use lsd, but I noticed my last two trips it wasn't half as bad as the other ones, only it being short moments.
I tripped on lsd 8 times, and the first few had it more then the later few, although as soon as I start doing something, or go somewhere, or get distracted by the visuals its gone. I remember someone on another forum said it might have to do with finding the right mindset to do lsd, and maybe thats true, as I did notice it a lot less my last trips.

 

i kinda get that its like im on a endless journey looking for people and things and thoughts and conversations, the constant urge to smoke and to paint to move and dance. to wander and swim greeting everyone wanting eveyone around you to be on the same level, drifting in and out of plane levels all in the same room watching puff the magic dragon and thinking what? being in your own world on your own plane level and drifting back into consciousness about the world around you just to see people doing the same thing just being lost but being completly content like new borns taking in as much as possible on the verge of insanity.but complelty social remembering ohh yea the hooka is still packed.. and we were all smoking but drifted away at the same time.

im done ranting sorry.

 

figure out what is missing


this is important

 

Seems to be different every time actually. Last time it was mostly trees, but one time it was a third person, and its been a spliff, a drink, sometimes its been making a drawing. Thats why 'it' is undefined. But usually when I'm thinking about it I'm not yet sure what 'it' is, so I search.
But yeah its not just one thing; the it thing.

 

haha i know what you mean to the fullest bro

there is always a mission.

 

This is so funny. Few days ago my friends and i droped some acid and there is one girl she is always looking for something. She wants coffee than when she gets coffee its not that than she changes the music than its not the music and story goes on whole night. And she can't find that it whole night.
At the beginning that used to go on my nerves cause she's not changing the whole setting just for her she's changing it for all of us. But than i realized that everything around me can change but who am I doesn't change. And then I wanted to help her but then another realization came that I cant help her as with acid you have to go through everything youself and even if someone points something to you its not the same until you experience it.
I never had that feeling and always enjoy any of my trips. But looking on her life and her behaviour on acid I would say that you are missing something in your life and acid brings that feeling up to you. You must be sure who you are and what you want not just on acid but in your whole life. You have to have strong mind especially for megadoses as acid finds even the smallest and dipest fear in you, the one that you have never been aware of, and shows it to you. If you know how to handle it you face it and overcome it or you start panicking and go into bad trip.
On smaller doses it starts with searching for "it" and some smaller things. It is definitly showing you that you are missing something or you are not happy with something in your life but you don't know what you need to change and acid brings that up to you with the feeling of something missing.
See with yourself what exactly is that "it". Thats the beauty of acid, cause it shapes you perfectly, all the tripping , patterns and other visual stuff is beautiful but is also telling you a lot about you and showing you something very important. Its up to you to find what it is.

 

ah, i thought i was gonna get to be the first to say "mission"!

you need to go on missions when tripping, it's the greatest thing in the world. "it" will change, once you find "it" you will know what the next "it" is. it's like a scavenger hunt. and it means something, it means something real.

i remember on one trip i was saying i felt like i needed to spiritually barf, and the expression "if you find the buddha, kill the buddha", i felt like, "find the buddha, blow chunks on the buddha". and we went adventuring, and we FOUND a buddha in a shop window, in the middle of the night, lit up... we didn't even realize it for a while. we just sat down in front of the shop, and all of the pent up crap came tumbling out and rode the waves away, and we were There. and then when we got up, we saw the buddha. i did my symbolic barfing and thanked him and we went off on another mission.

the feeling that something is missing is a good feeling. because you will find it. and then you will be missing something else. but you'll get to a point where you love missing something, because it means you will find it, so the anxiety goes away and it's all just magical. that's when you can get to the Here and Now stuff, because Here and Now is flowing and alive... you don't get there and then everything stops...



hope it made sense

 

Yes, it made sense. And that's how you are learning. And it's cool when you find "it". But some people never find "it" and they just go deeper down. The anxiety is soo big. And you are watching them doing that but no matter what anyone says or does they still go that way.
Here and Now is beautiful and never still.

 

you always find it, you just might not know it when you see it, or realize you've found it... because it's never just "i need a piece of toast" and then you get a piece of toast and go "okay, now it's all good, it's over"... it's like, there's something, something, what is it? i can feel it, and it feels like... ...is it toast? i think it is, now i have to find it. and it's not really the *thing* you're looking for, it's everything subliminal and metaphorical underneith, what you need is to have the journey. the search puts things in your path that you need to see, while you are consciously looking. you're always being shown what you need to see, but you only see it when you're intentionally looking. "it" has to stay open ended... the less defined it is, the more specific and obvious it will be once you come across it.

 

As I said in one of my posts, when you are searching for something, usually you are so busy searching, that you dont "see" something witch is in front of your nose, and that is usally giving you that what you are looking for.. and much, much more than you ever new that it exists. But, as LSD ASAP already said, LSD is showing you where you are stuck in your life, so that is the sign that something is missing in your life, witch is completely understandable considering your age and that you are still shaping your personality and ways of looking at life itself. When you are complete person, knowing exactly who you are with full self confidence, than you will be able to enjoy fully with whatever comes your way without searching for "it", as "it" is basically yourself.
They do not say for nothing that certan things come only with age. ( I am not saying this with any disrespect or something like that, every age got its advantages and disadvantages. Hope you understand)

 

I actually disagree that the search for it it seaching for what is missing in your life. Usually it.. is something else to do, 'it' can be the sun shining, 'it' can be looking at a tree, 'it' can be a good conversation. I don't miss sunshine and good conversations from my life when sober.

 

I do understand where you come from, but you didn't understand that 'sunshine' represents something in your real life and you need to realize what is that.

Let me ask you something, can you be without any drug happy and always on track, knowing exactly who you are, do you have any complex, are you 100% self confident whatever you do....... People become like that through meditation, yoga, tai-chi....... LSD is like those things. Not everybody can do all of those things at the same time, they find what sutes their personality the best and practise it. LSD is universal, but everybody has its own meaning of halucination, feeling, vibration.....whatever happens to you on it.
How I would translate that feeling that you always need something on acid is that you are missing something in your life and you are searching for it, that doesn't nesesserily mean that you need material thing, it can be love, friendship, support, parents, brother, processor..... anything, and you are on the mission to find what is that what you are missing. You might not be aware that you are missing something at all, but that is why acid is there, to help you find your subconcious feelings and needs and who you really are.

 

Well thats the problem.. or not actually a problem. My life; is really good. I have love, a group of close friends, family, a future, a plan and its all going well. It might actually though; be partially influenced by the friend I usually trip with.
She's the one I started looking with, I'll name her V. here. The trips without her involved less it-seeking then the trips with her. So I'm going to tell the idea you people had/have here to her and see what she thinks about it, because I do believe their might be some truth in what you're saying.

Last trip actually, all I wanted was to get something out of the trip that was keepable, like a drawing, so I drew a drawing and after that the it-feeling actually went completely, so in that caze it was indeed something I wanted: a touchable memory from LSD, I cna get pretty frustrated abou tnot being able to photograph my visuals, but having a drawing under influence is nice.

EIther way, I get what you're saying; as in that its metaphores, and I think in the more serious cazes it is; when there's really a feeling of 'argh this just sin't it, but WHAT is it?!' I do however think the lighter cazes are much much smaller things that can actually easily be solved within the trip.

 

we are taught to think we are separate from something, (call it god, the source, the universe, life, love, whatever name you like), rather than feeling and knowing that we are arising within wholeness and made of that wholeness. so we look and look and look.

but source and manifestation are "not two".

eventually it is realised and experienced,either with or without drugs, that
what we are looking for, IS what is looking.




(nice sig pic, shapeshifter)

 

Now you are getting what I am trying to say!

Let me give you one more hint, although Denize-Louis already did that:

In 99.9% of the cases, people can not find themselfes, they still didn't shape their personality and understandings. Usually, they ask them selfes "What do I belive, what this guy says or that one?" When you know what you belive no matter what anybody say, than you really belive it, and than you found yourself! Once you find yourself, belive me if you can, you will not need anything else in your life, you will be happy just to be alive, every second, on drugs or without it!

 

Exactly, maybe yor life is good but there must be something that's missing maybe some quality in you. It doesn't have to be all translated to material things. As I said go deep down within yourself and you'll find it. Honestly I don't have that feeling, especially not all the time while tripping.