Salvia Visions - A profound experience

Well, this is a copy paste from my blog, and it's also very long, but the experience I had was so profound that I thought it would be good to share it with others!

Salvia Visions: Journal Entry 1

For those of you who don't know what Salvia Divinorum is, there's an excellent explanation here: http://www.sagewisdom.org/usersguide.html

The first two times I tried salvia divinorum, I smoked a 5X extract made by Club13 that I bought in downtown Davis (not a very strong extract, actually it's one of the weakest ones). I bought 1 gram and at the time of this writing, I still have about 1/3 of that gram left. Just goes to show how much 1 gram will last, or maybe it's just because I don't use Salvia that often.

10-5-06: Nothing particularly interesting happed the first time I tried it. I just noticed everything get really distorted and just talked with my roomate and got mad at him in a playful manner. I would just say "Ahh, fuck you!" and the equivalent, but I was just playing. I also noticed how my arms had gone somewhat limp and felt like noodles so I was swinging them around like in that one cartoon from the Rejected series. After I closed my eyes and put my head down on my arms, I had an image of my arms turning into a giant papaya, and then the whole trip was over. Overall, an interesting experience and somewhat comical as well.

10-16-06: The second time I smoked salvia, I made sure to close my eyes after I started to feel the effects. After I closed my eyes, a fractal pattern started to form based off of the afterimage I had after I closed my eyes. It turned into a spiraling pattern, similar to an octopus, and then small circles formed at the center and started spinning off in each direction of the fractal's "tails". These circles then turned into limes and continued to spin. They started zipping back and forth accross my field of view, and wherever they went they left a black line, similar to a cartoonist drawing a frame. This continued for awhile and soon an elaborate cartoon world appeared in front of me. Strangely, it was also completely in black and white except for the green limes that were still flying all over the place.

I found myself looking at a cartoonish city, and I was standing at a train station. A train went past me and then grew wings and flew off. I then turned around and saw the limes drawing the Pillsburry Dough Boy and when they were almost done my roomate said something to me and the entire cartoon world tore in half, just like a piece of paper. I then started swearing at my roomie in the same playful manner as the first time I tried it, and we walked off back to the room. Everything was still somewhat distorted, and as we were walking past some trees I felt as though I were back home walking through one of the Oregon forests. I felt a little sad to be away from home, and missed spending time at the fairy ponds at Litia with my friends. Overall, fruit makes another appearance for some reason, and the comical cartoon world was pretty funny. The walk back to my room brought back memories of my senior year summer break, easily the best time of my entire life.

10-21-06: After receiving my shipment of salvia from Shaman's Palace (2 ounces of leaves, 1 gram of 5X, 1 gram of 10X, and 1/2 ounce of tincture), I decided to try something different. I setup some nice soothing music on my computer to listen to, and many of the songs I had in the playlist had good memories attached to them. I then got about 10 medium-sized leaves (not a very strong dose by any means), soaked them in water, and rolled them into a quid. 15 minutes into chewing I noticed some minor distortions, but nothing really that interesting. A half hour into chewing I spit out the quid, which I was glad to do since it tasted pretty bitter. I laid down on my bed, closed my eyes, cleared my mind, and listened to the music. What happened next was so radically different from the previous two experiences that it actually made me realize something increadibly important, but I'll explain that at the end. One interesting thing to note however, is that whenever one song ended and another one began, the entire vision I was having would change, similar to a fadeout-fadein effect in a movie when it changes scenes. The memories attached to each song that I had in the playlist influenced the next "scene" of my trip, which I found to be very interesting. Also, I had a degree of consciousness in my decisions in my journey. Unlike dreams or when I smoked the salvia, I could control my actions for the most part, although the scenery and situations were not able to be controlled. Anyways, here's what happened in my "dream".

While I was laying down, I felt my body "merge" with the bed partially and began to feel increadibly relaxed. Almost as though my body was loosing its physical form and was permeating every fiber of the bed. It wasn't long until I entered the vision state of mind.

I found myself in a sandy desert that was quite windy, and there was a huge tower close to where I was standing. There was a group of people flying around on large bird feathers around the tower. They noticed me and came down to talk to me. They were all very playful and kind and wore sand colored robes. They gave me one of their feathers and urged me to fly up to the tower with them. I got on the feather and flew up to the very top of the tower with the rest of them. When I got to the top they went their own ways and when I landed, my feather went off to follow them.

Soon after landing at the tower, another group of people approached me. They carried small, one person rafts with them and beckoned me to race with them. I obliged and went to the edge of the tower where they were standing. There was a sort of chute that went straight up and was filled with water that defied gravity. We all lauched our rafts into this chute and began racing straight up towards the sky. The further we raced the larger the chute got and sub-streams started branching off.

I took one path after another and wherever I went, a new river would be created right in front of me, with green walls on each side. Soon I realized that all of us were creating a huge leaf, each path we took was creating another vein in the leaf itself, which was filled with the water that we were rafting on. We continued to create this leaf and make it grow larger and larger by racing eachother, and eventually we finished making the giant leaf. We finished our race and detached ourselves from the leaf and slowly floated back down to the tower. I looked up and saw that we had created a beautiful golden leaf, with rivers that were flowing through each vein. What's interesting is that the veins were not enclosed, and I could walk up and run my hand through the water if I so wished. The water also stayed attached to the leaf, it never fell even though the leaf was completely vertical. We stood back and admired our work.

Soon after finishing growing the leaf, a giant came towards the tower and plucked the leaf off. He then went to a hill in the desert and planted the leaf. As soon as the leaf was embedded in the sand, water began to pool at the botton of the stem and form a large lake. The leaf then grew into a huge tree. Grass and trees also began to grow around the edges of the lake, and soon a large forest was standing in the distance. I descended from the tower somehow and walked towards the lake.

After standing at the edge of the lake for awhile, the NEDM mascot "Happycat!" came to the lake to get a drink of water. He lapped it up and then stood up and took on a somewhat human form. I can't recall exactly, but I think he pulled a tophat out from behind his back and put it on his head. Happycat motioned for me to follow him so that he might show me something. I had the feeling what he was going to show me was an answer to some question I had. Happycat urged me to look off into the distance so that I might see what he had to show me. A vision within a vision, if you will.

I found myself walking through a snowy wood with Sarah. It was night and it was snowing lightly. We weren't sure where we were going, but the moon was bright enough that we were able to see. My vision shifted and I saw a third-person view of myself and Sarah walking through the snowy forest. My vision shifted again into first person, and I realized that I was actually outside of a store in Jacksonville at night, and Sarah and I were actually looking at a mechanical Christmas decoration of a forest with small models of ourselves walking. It was similar to those decorations you can get where it has the little people that are moved by magnets under the fake terrain. We looked at eachother and then looked up at the star filled sky. Everything faded out to black.

I then found myself in a simple room with a single door, three walls, and a roof. The forth wall wasn't there, and the only thing I could see was an endless black void. Soon after, the people in my life that I am closest too started to appear in the room. They just popped into existence and each of them had a sort of crystalline aura that surrounded their bodies. The people that appeared first were Sarah, Dur, Phil, James, DILLON, AJ, Sanj, Rachel, Kevin, Patrick, and after that I lost track since so many people were appearing. Everyone stretched out behind me and started creating a rainbow colored road that wound its way through the black void, and continued on to infinity. I was overjoyed to see all of my friends there. I then heard or sensed the door open and I turned around to see what was there.

Happycat walked through the door with a small person that was bathed in pure white light. I didn't know who this person was at first, but soon I realized that it was actually my daughter. I couldn't make out her face, but I noticed that she was tall for her age and she had blonde and brown hair that was long and braided. I would guess that she was around 7 or 8 years old. Her aura sort of "split" and another younger girl appeared beside her. I realized that this was her sister, probably around 5 years old. I then looked through the door and saw a beautiful woman standing outside of the door. The best way to describe her features is "natural". Well, that's a pretty broad term, but I think it fits well. This woman was the mother of my daughters, which means that she was also my "wife". However, we weren't "married", we just knew that we would always be together and always there for eachother.

I then noticed that everyone's aura was slightly "tainted" with a bit of gray light. I came to realize that this was the essence of human imperfection. However, I didn't feel like it was a bad thing. Actually, I felt as though this "taint" made everyone even more beautiful, as that is what made them human. Everyone has their imperfections, and if it weren't for those, they wouldn't be human.

A beautiful moutainrange and forest appeared outside of the door. I urged everyone to follow me so that we might go to the forest, but only Sarah, Dur, Phil, James, and my new family came with me. Everyone else was unwilling to leave their lifestyle of living within society, for some of them had grown dependent on modern technology, while others were afraid of the unknown, and others felt that they were happy with their current lifestyle.

We lived in the forest for awhile, I'm not sure how long, but we were happy. It was beautiful there and we had everything we needed to get by. Then one night three creatures (the same ones that were in that one Starwars movie when Anakin, Padme, and Obi-Wan Kenobi were tied up in that gladiator arena to be sacrificed) came to our camp. However, despite their deadly appearance, they had no desire to harm us and were actually quite kind. I think their names were Jack, Jed, and Jeff. They stayed the night with us as we all sat around the campfire and left in the morning.

Some time later, the entire forest was submerged in a huge flood. The water just swept around us, like we weren't even there. We found that we could breathe underwater, and we spent some time swimming through the forest. The whole journey was very surreal, like nothing I've ever experienced before. After a time we decided to surface and see what had happened to the world.

The entire world was covered with water. All of us decide to fly up into the clouds and spend our lives living there. We then fly up and make a home in one of the clouds. We also took some debris with us to make our home with. Nothing special, just some old boards, a couple chairs, and a trashcan lid. We live in our new home for a long time, I'm not sure how long. After awhile, we see some other people as they are traveling past us.

These other people had "better" homes that were elaborate and huge and they traveled in futuristic flying vehicles that could go much faster than someone that was just flying using their own abilities. Some of them mocked us for our simple and modest lifestyle, and because we didn't have nearly as good of stuff that they did.

However, we all simply smiled at them and waved them goodbye as they passed. It was at this point that I came to a profound realization. I realized that all of us knew that we had something that shallow materialism could never in any way,
shape, or form, achieve. We had undying love and friendship for eachother, and that was all that we needed. Anything else was just unnecessary and harmful. I felt completely at peace, and everything sort of faded. I either fell asleep at this point, or envisioned myself falling asleep, but I think it was the former. Who knows? I may have even "died", but it made no difference to me. I had found true happiness, and I realized that I had had it all along, and it was simply all the extra things that society says are "good" that was getting in the way of that realization.

I woke up at about 4:45 to the sound of my Korean roomie singing along to his music karaoke style. Man, he sure is a terrible singer, heh heh heh. The whole experience only lasted about an hour, but it felt like a millenia. Truly a profound experience. I've always felt better living a frugal and minimalist lifestyle, but this has truly inspired me to avoid ever getting caught in the trappings of the five things which society states are "good" to have: Power, Wealth, Pleasure, Respect, and Fame.

Overall, the experience was increadibly profound. Chewing the leaves is far superior to smoking them, even though it leaves a very bitter taste in your mouth for quite awhile.

 

Dude, that sounds like it was so awesome. I need to try this chewing business.

-Mike

 

Chewing the leaves as a quid is so much better than smoking. I didn't think it'd be that big of a difference, but it was so radically different I doubt I'll ever buy an extract again.

It was strange, in that I still had a degree of control over what was going on, almost as if half my mind was subconsciously creating the dreamworld and the other half was my ego experiencing the whole thing and analyzing what was happening and making decisions on what courses of action I should take. A truly amazing experience! It definitely helped me understand why I should continue my minimalist lifestyle and shun materialism.

 

So you made the quid from a bunch of leaves. Were they dried out?

-Mike

 

Yeah, I have about 2 ounces of dried leaves that I've been using. I just took about 10 medium sized leaves, soaked them in cool water for 10 minutes, and then rolled them into a quid. I'd chew the leaves a little bit every 15-30 seconds, and then hold it under my tongue when I wasn't chewing. Tasted pretty bitter, but I didn't mind.

 

agree with the sentiments in your first post silverwolf, but the list towards the end is confusing - isn't respect a decent enough value ? and i wouldn't call myself a hedonist exactly, but i don't want a pleasure free life...and come to think of it, power can be good if it's excercised responsibly, ditto wealth....oh SHIT, I'M ONE OF THEM.....

 

OH NOES!!! Haha, while respect is probably the "best" out of all those values, some people can be so driven to have the respect of others they'll do less than meritable actions to obtain it. For example, someone running for office will want to gain the respect of the voting population, and they may try to gain that respect by saying anything or bashing their opposition with negative attacks. Eh, just an example. In reality, a little bit of any of those qualities is fine, but when taken too far you'll simply be consumed by them.

Also, when I "fell asleep" during my vision, I just remembered that I saw something. The best I can describe it is like this: I was simply looking at the waves of the ocean going on forever with the moon reflected in those waves. That's the image I remember during that final state of my vision. I felt completely at peace just watching the waves, rolling in and out forever...

 

I have another Salvia experience I'd like to share!

11/03/06
I took a slightly smaller dose of leaves than my first time chewing them, and chewed them while lying down for about 10 minutes while listening to some nice music. After 10 minutes I sat up and grabbed my journal and started writing what was coming to mind. I initially started writing a log of sorts and then it started to become poetry, and then I started drawing random pictures, one of which was a banana spiraling off into infinity. Again, fruit makes an appearance for some reason, heh heh. What was interesting is that I found it easy to draw complex 3D fractal images even though I'm an absolutely terrible artist. It was VERY odd to be able to understand where I should draw the lines to create these images, since I honestly suck at drawing anything.

Anyways, once it was time to spit out the leaves, I felt this sense that for some reason the leaves I was chewing were analogous to people and that by spitting out the leaves I would be killing them. However, the "god of time" as I thought of it compelled me to spit the leaves out since I had been chewing them for over a half hour. I did it, but some leaf fragments still stuck to my teeth, and I felt as though these were the people that were fighting and clinging to life. I was overcome with a feeling of sadness for the leaf-people, and I knew that killing them was just plain wrong on so many levels, even though I was ordered to do so by the god of time. I could have spit out the remaining fragments but I refused to do so, and was willing to face the consequences for disobeying orders from the god of time. The experience made me realize that if I ever end up in a situation where I am ordered to do something morally objectionable by an authoratative figure, I will refuse to do so and take the consequences upon myself instead of causing harm to others. I refuse to cause harm anyone in any way, shape, or form. Again, I've had this sentiment for a long time, but the experience only made me even more resolute in my decision.

I then laid back on the bed and closed my eyes. Almost immediatly I saw an image of a cyborg Abraham Lincoln looking straight at me and charging up his laser eyes. Yep, that's right, ABRAHAM LINCOLN IS CHARGIN HIS LAZARZ!! LAWLZ!! I opened my eyes, managed to chuckle to myself, and closed my eyes again. What follows next is the true salvia trip.

Initially, I saw many odd shaped bricks start laying themselves in front of me. They continued to form a sort of tube structure and I started to follow it in an attempt to get out. I worked my way through the structure until I came to the end. There was a sort of information desk there with a woman standing behind it. She said something about registerting when I leave and a bunch of other administrative crap. I just kept walking right past the desk to get out of the place where I was, and I wanted nothing to do with superfluous administrative protocol.

I then found myself again in a desert, but this time it was the Oregon high desert or something like it. I was in a small native american camp of sorts that was inbetween two canyon walls. There were tepee-like structures that were halfway in the rock walls of the canyon, and these were actually entrances to homes that were dug in the rock. Another way to explain it is that there were cloth or buffaloskin tepee-like doorways into the rock walls. The homes were spherical shaped and dug right out of the rock, kind of like small caves. They had a bed, some animal skins, a small nightstand desk, and some lamps in them and that was pretty much it. Anyways, I was sitting just outside of one of the homes with a tall woman that had a beautiful smile. Again I felt like we were "married" but not in the traditional sense. I got the impression that we both decided to leave modern society and join a tribe of people who were somewhat similar to a small native American tribe. We continued to sit and talk and laugh, and then an old shaman that was sitting on a floating rock approached us. What was interesting is that this shaman did not exist bound by the 3 dimensions of space. The best way to explain it is that if I existed in a 2 dimensional plane, like a computer screen, this shaman would exist in a 3 dimensional plane, like someone watching the computer screen with me on it. He was our guide or mentor of sorts, and was going to do what was needed for us to be fully integrated into the tribe since we were still outsiders by nature. I can't quite recall what happened next, as I started slipping in and out of consciousness since my body was starting to fall asleep, but I think that my companion and I joined the tribe and lived with them and enjoyed the simpler life away from the city. I think that after we joined the tribe, I made one final journey back to the city to find and tell my friends about the tribe and ask them to join it as well if they so wished.

I pulled the sheets over myself and again had a feeling of merging with the bed and partially loosing my physical body. I kept seeing small flashes of random scenes that are now too vague to recall. I think they were a type of dream and salvia vision hybrid. The only recurring theme that I can recall is something about cities and how I need to get out of them and live a simpler life on the outskirts of society. Eventually I couldn't keep myself awake any longer and I let sleep take me. However, instead of falling into a deep sleep I remained slightly conscious and still experienced little fragments of scenes and visions for about 3 hours until I woke up at about 3:00 AM and was completely conscious and felt very peaceful. One of the fragments was me and Dur conversing about something like the nature of morality or something like that, although that's all I can remember about that fragment. I can't recall exactly when this scene happened either, but at some point in the experience I had an enlightening philosophical discussion with my friends about many topics. The only discussion I can somewhat remember was something about living bounded by the "rules" and "expectations" of modern socity, or living a free life outside of society, and how I was asking them them to come with me on a journey away from modern life in the city and instead, to live a simpler life where we can live the way we want and be happy.

Overall, the entire experience was different in many ways from the first time I chewed the salvia leaf, and I think it has to do with the fact that I chewed less leaves at a later time in the day when I already somewhat tired and ready to go to sleep. A good experience though, not quite as profound as the first one and there were many similarities as well, but I still learned many new things. Next time I'll be sure to chew the leaves at some point earlier in the day, like the first time I chewed them.

Also, CYBORG ABRAHAM LINCOLN IS CHARGIN HIS LAZAR EYEZ!! LAWLZ!!!

 

Ever seen The Simpsons episode where they go to Duff Gardens? There's a robotic Lincoln and Jefferson, and Jefferson's eyes glow red. Haha, any connections? Thats the first thing that came to my mind when I read that.

 

Heh, no I can't say I've ever seen that episode of the Simpsons. I've only watched that show a couple times, as it's extremely rare that I watch TV at all.

 

How big was the quid you used? I have 1 ounce of dried leaves from Salvia Supply, and when I tried the quid method I couldn't really distinguish between large and small leaves, because they are all so dried out and shriveled. Anyway, I took about 10-15 leaves and soaked them in water, and after I rolled them up it was about as thick and as long as a cigar. I found it uncomfortable in my mouth and very bitter. The worst part is after 30 minutes, I felt absolutely nothing.

 

Hmm, the quid I used was about the size of a golfball, and that was after I soaked the leaves and squeezed out the excess water. Did you use mouthwash and brush your teeth before chewing the leaves? It really helps a lot it you do, as it allows the salvinorin A to be absorbed much more efficiently. Also, the effects are very subtle when you chew the leaves. Instead of simply viewing the effects like when you smoke the leaves, you have to search for them a bit.

 

wow dude, you remember an insane amount of detail from your visions.

 

Yo silverwolf... I have a poster in my dorm that is almost exactly like the one behind you. Does your's say 'free your mind' at the top?

-Mike

 

Nope, mine says "Mind Warp" in oldschool computer font, heh heh.

 

Hi Silver. You have some amazingly insightful visions to learn from. It would be interesting to find out what you might learn if you treat them like video games and see what you can learn from each stop before you move on (i.e. this woman behind the desk). I wonder what she might have been trying to teach you about yourself.

Dream on brother!

 

Thank you! I try to gain as much as I can from my experiences, so I tend to take salvia only when I have a clear mind and a journal next to my bed. As for the woman at the desk, I think she just wanted me to fill out a whole bunch of forms, most of which were entirely unnecessary. Perhaps it's a reflection of the sad state of our society when we have to sign for everything, even if we just want to have some company over for a night (yes, at my college you have to file a form if you have a guest that's staying for the night. Then again, it's such a pain in the ass that no one does it ).

As for treating them like a form of video games, that is actually very similar to what the experience feels like when I chew the salvia leaves. My subconscious creates an elaborate dreamworld that my consciousness experiences and "plays" through.

I plan on taking some salvia sometime this week, it's been nearly a month since my last experience!

 

the journal idea is great
stupendous
I started doing journal 4 years ago for salvia.
got about 20 booklets now.
I go nearly daily ~1 hit 10x smoked.
but I definitely write daily for the last 2 years.
it has become a diary
I have stached booklets like this in my briefcase and in my car too - in case something comes up. one really forgets details quickly.
one day
i hope to make a comic book from the excerpts.
I put in everything I can think of.

 

Hmm, a comic book ehh? That's actually a brilliant idea! I know a lot of the visions I've had would be pretty awesome if only I could recreate them on some sort of medium. Sadly, I can't draw worth crap and the only thing I'm moderately good at is abstract 3D computer art, heh heh.

Maybe one of these days I'll try to recreate some of my visions...

 

But how do you know if you didn't stop??? These 'forms' might have been the Holy Grail of your experiences.

Salvia, like most entheogens, is a teacher. She does not put anything into the experience that will not teach you something about yourself... even if it takes years to decipher.

Right now, you think about the forms one way. But stop. Look the forms over with a careful eye. Ask questions. Never assume anything. By now, I'm sure you realize that reality is just a myth that we all agree upon anyways. What is hidden inside this scene? What didn't you know before you entered the scene as the actor to play your part?

Accept that you are wise beyond your years.