Salvia HELP!!!

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by hellobudda, Apr 25, 2007.

  1. hellobudda

    hellobudda Member

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    I just recently started to smoke salvia (purchased 2g of 5x). The problem is that every time i smoke it i start to freak out and have all these horrible thoughts no matter how much i prepare myself mentally and alter my enviroment. Any ideas on how to change this???
     
  2. Pepopstico

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    1. easiest solution is to stop smoking salvia and decide it's not for you.
    2. if you want to keep trying, experiment with smaller doses until you discover your comfort level.
    3. most difficult solution is to welcome the horrible thoughts and see what you can learn from them. much of the fear comes from resisting the experience.
     
  3. Colimon

    Colimon Cheesus Christo

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    Zat is so true, what he said. The only bad experiences I've had while on salvia were good for me because I was scared, but then I thought my fear was rediculous, so I laughed like I've never laughed before, even harder than good trips. Try building up to the dose, smoking low doses of 5x (so you can only feel the effects, but not tripping)...
     
  4. Four Winds

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    You have to understand- salvia divinorum is not something you pass around at a party with you buddies. It is an EXTREMELY powerful psychedelic, not by any means a "recreational drug."

    The many experiences I've had with salvia (20X) have all been so intense and strange- I cant really classify them as "good or bad trips." I just take what I see, think, and feel, and try to accept it- to explore higher conciousness.

    Some people arent ready for that, or cant handle it. If you are one of those people, you might want to stop. If you're determined to continue experiencing salvia- just learn to accept whatever happens- not fear it or try to change it.

    Flow with it man.
     
  5. hellobudda

    hellobudda Member

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    Believe me i have done my research on salvia i know its not a party drug. I have also tryed different enviroments dark room,in nature etc and i have always had a sitter. I can handle low doses (level 1,2) its just when it goes higher i freak out and no matter how much i tell myself its the just the salvia it will pass it never works. But i think im going to take the advice of just accepting what is happening and not try and fight it :)
     
  6. Four Winds

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    That is truly the best advice.

    Try not to think of it in terms of salvia. Dont try to keep telling yourself "I just smoked salvia, now Im tripping out," if you are telling yourself that- somewhere, in the back of your mind- you are still scared of it. You are trying to calm yourself because you fear it and want to avoid that fear.

    Look at it on a totally spiritual/meditational level, thats what I do, and it helps a lot.
     
  7. Geneity

    Geneity self-proclaimed advocate

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    Yeah, this seems to be advice I need to follow as well. One of my only "successful" trips came on when I let myself drop out and the Salvia take control of me.

    Dark places work well for me, or with a little light shining in (the glass basement door, where in the basement the TV was on, I was in the garage). Put on some nice music, at a low volume, and let yourself dive. The music thing seems to only work for some people, myself not included.

    I find myself highly irritated and intensely anxious and scared when I smoke it around another person. Until I better understand myself and the Salvia, the people will be left out.

    The best advice is you just never know what is going to happen, and there is absolutely no way you can be prepared because every trip is quite different.
     
  8. Four Winds

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    Yes.

    You see, people try so hard to "prepare" for a salvia journey- but in truth there is no way you can.

    It is in this "preparation" most people acquire that fear I speak of. It is very common for peoples minds to pose questions like "what if?" What if this happens? What if I bad trip? Etc.

    Letting go of the "what ifs" isnt exactly easy. I have been using all kinds of hallucinogens for several years now, and I am still not very good at it. But as you get better, you understand it more, and the more you understand it, the less you fear it.
     
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