Ron Paul and Barney Frank: First Ever Marijuana Legalization Bill going to Congress

Discussion in 'Cannabis News' started by skip, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. skip

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  2. broony

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    This is great news, more awareness keeps happening.

    Cocaine growing 27% though? Damn i need to find me sum good deals....
     
  3. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    Good to know. The odds of its success aren't that great, but at least we are keeping congress alert to the ideal.

    This will be a true test of facts vs. morals. If they base their judgment on facts the bill will pass, if they base their judgment on moral limitations then it will be shot down.

    We should bail out the casual non-violent drug user
     
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    Bipartisan? On the surface that seems to be outstanding news... however, I've gotten so punch drunk from the pattern of deception that until I see legalization actually take hold I won't be getting my hopes up. As has already been alluded to- there isn't much chance of passage- too many oligarchs and too many sheep believe far too much of the propaganda pumped out by the DEA and other law enforcement that to cultivate real support they'll need to first create an awareness campaign highlighting the relative innocuous nature of cannabis and admit that the crapola that has been rammed down our throats compliments on the so-called war on drugs is unadulterated bullshit.

    Somehow I expect the staunch anti drug voices will drown out common sense as usual.
     
  5. YoMama

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    If you want pot to be legal I urge you to call your states representative and tell them to get on board with this bill and get it passed.
    The war on drugs is a moral problem of big government telling people what they can and can not do with their own body.

    I like the way Milton Friedman explains it:

    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLsCC0LZxkY
     
  6. in the woods

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    i agree with milton
     
  7. McFuddy

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    This will not pass. The Republicans will make sure of that. (And many Dems as well)
     
  8. YoMama

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    Instead of blaming Republicans call your Rep and demand they support this bill. Work the system
     
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    the first time in my life i agree with elmer fudd on something.
     
  10. Shroomery

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    This bill has to stand up to corporations like Alcohol, Tobacco, and the Pharmaceutical companies, so im not sure if this will happen though its a great step
     
  11. ChronicTom

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    Whether or not this passes, (or when it does) will be totally dependant on how bad things are financially...

    That is the only thing that will eventually decriminalize it...
     
  12. YoMama

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    Yea they might have to make it legal to create new jobs.
     
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    Thanks for posting this clip. Looking at this debate from an economic and environmental perspective clearly supports the legalization of at least, marijuana.

    Also, no one is talking about the environmental benefits of the U.S. growing and creating goods out of hemp? Not only is there an economic, but also an environmental incentive to legalize marijuana.

    Whether you support or don not support the legalization of marijuana, I highly recommend watching the documentary "The Union".

    I support the legalization of marijuana yet I do not smoke it myself. I think there is this popular misconception that all people who support legalization are chronic, closet potheads, which is not the case.
     
  14. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    It will lower the crime rate, possibly take a few homicides out of the statistics, and it will even pump tax revenue into the economy. Money will be saved in the correctional division of law enforcement. But that's the kicker, it will also inevitably destroy jobs in prisons.

    It will be interesting to see the yeas and nays on this one.
     
  15. jo_k_er_man

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    I see this having a slightly stronger chance now that the government is starting to cut failed programs.. just the other day they cut ethanol subsidies.... legalization of marijuana would cut a big chunk of money being wasted on prison space and enforcement... BUT then again we've all been to this rodeo plenty of times... and we all know the outcome... and I don't think this will be the one
     
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    Ron Paul has been introducing bills for several years now to legalize hemp. He looks at the economic benefits but knows the environmental aspects of it as well. I think he pushes the economic aspect more because he feels more people would go with that aspect.

    I think it is horribly disrespectful of the earth to be trying to wipe this very useful and even healing plant off of the face of the earth. To do so seems very evil to me. The same goes for opium and cacoa too. The war against the people who's cultures have depended on these plants for centuries. Not to mention that they do actually have use in relieving pain.
     
  17. jo_k_er_man

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    This whole bill brings up another question.. Will there be a first time ever bipartisan presidential candidate? Paul/Frank 2012!
     
  18. YoMama

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    Frank wildly differs with Paul on economics and foreign policy I don't think Ron could run with someone out side the party but I can tell you that anyone he would choose to run with will be for legalizing freedom.
     
  19. Skyalmian

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    From here:

    ("man has dominion over all the earth and every living thing upon the earth" I disagree. But not the point of post.)

    (Her book by the way explains how the entire commercial / statutory / legal system as it exists stems from bankruptcy and requires fraud in order to exist; an eye-opener. Also how Public Policy, Contract Law, and the Uniform Commercial Code are the Supreme Laws of the Lan--err, Mud, with the Constitution voided 80 years ago in their favor.)
     
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    We know the best law would be to have the federal government legalize it for all states. This bill allows the states to do what they want on the matter without fear of federal prosecution. It doesn't allow "smuggling" between states, though. But still, this is a HUGE step and a well-worded bill considering today's political climate.

    Even if this doesn't get passed, Ron Paul will keep pushing for it. And everyone who wants to see the drug war end should vote for him for president in 2012. If it doesn't happen right away, he'll fight for it. Not completely ignore it and laugh it off as if it's some joke.

    Who cares that Obama smoked some weed in the past? It gets annoying when people bring that up as if he's pro-weed right now. No, he's funding the drug war and will continue doing it. He doesn't give a damn about legalization and gets annoyed when people talk about it. All the people who voted for Obama thinking he would legalize cannabis couldn't have been more misguided.
     
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