Ron Paul 2012!..?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jo_k_er_man, Apr 26, 2011.

  1. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    Well Ron Paul announced in Iowa that he's putting together an exploratory committee and will announce soon whether or not he is running for the 2012 Republican Presidential Nomination..

    Is it possible to see the first ever Father/Son nomination? Paul/Paul 2012 signs in everyone's yards? The chances of Ron Paul actually getting the bid for president is not on his side.. as we all know he is not your ordinary every day Republican...

    http://www.radioiowa.com/2011/04/26...-in-exploratory-phase-of-2012-campaign-audio/

    Do you think Paul's anti-war campaign is rightfully timing now? I'd be willing to say that most Americans.. Rep or Dem... are getting sick of the shit going on in the middle east.. and it could be his winning point.. BUUUUUUT Thanks to NObama's lack of pulling forces out of the middle east after promising he would during his campaign.. voters may be weary to believe in that line again

     
  2. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    he got fucking punked in bruno
     
  3. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    It kinda sounds silly saying this but i really hope that people like John Stewart and Colbert get behind his campaign... it's pretty amazing how influential these two guys are on the masses
     
  4. OptimisticFutureBlues

    OptimisticFutureBlues Member

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    Ron Paul is the last hope of this country doing a direct about face. People like Obama would EVENTUALLY fix the problem, but god knows how long it would take them and its not even guaranteed that they would because they now play by the rules of big corporation. Ron Paul offers direct solutions by applying the constitution literally to our current situation which is the best option at this point.

    Not only does he want to end paper money. He believes it will always be destined to failure. Which I happen to agree with.

    I have no problem stating that I will happily vote for this man.
     
  5. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    I may actually register to vote now.. seems like a reason worth doing so..
     
  6. OptimisticFutureBlues

    OptimisticFutureBlues Member

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    And to answer the question of "Do you think Paul's anti-war campaign is rightfully timing now?"... Well the timing of Paul's anti-war campaign is about as timely as it gets. About as timely as a train that shows up an hour and a half late. Come September of this year we will have been in the middle east an entire decade. That is pathetic and it is only making them despise us further, its worsening the problem and Paul understands that. The comparison between this conflict and the Vietnam Conflict should not be ignored and he hasn't ignored it in the least.

    His face brings to mind a bloodhound. Truly made and bred to sniff out political bullshit. He holds his own in even the most humid of political climates. I've watched about 30 interviews of this guy and he has a solid state of mind when it comes to policy. He deserves respect from anyone who is proud to call themselves Americans. Especially the ones who have a handle on what 'Liberty' really is as a concept and how beautiful it once was. If Ron Paul is voted into office, the few hippies that remain will get exactly what they wanted in the first place.

    He is a tight fiscal conservative, and that is what America needs right now due to the current financial situation.
     
  7. Voice of Truth

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    Never going to happen. The forces are there to stay.
    I was recently in Iraq and there and from what I saw ther are so few Iraqi men left that the nation is on the brink of ending. The women are desperate for the basics in order to feed and put roof over the heads of their children and the many other orphans.

    It gets worse, the younger women are turning to prostitution with the american GIs. And the GIs have figured out that some of those muslim women can be very beautiful. Most tend to have all body hair removed as part of their customs. I could have had condomless sex with 2 girls for entire night for about 50 bucks (perhaps less).

    There is also another problem. Many of the soldiers have become pimps. The almost non-existant risk of ever getting into trouble for pimping, the language barrier and the male dominant culture has made these guys "super assholes" towards the girls working for them. A John could pay a soldier boy about 25 bucks and the girl will get about 3 bucks and if she is lucky, a few days of meals-ready-to-eat.


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  8. Lostthoughts

    Lostthoughts Thostloughts

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    He´s the only politician out there right now that could actually make me get off my ass and vote. I hope he runs.
     
  9. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    Terrible. Once this stuff gets fed into the machine of the media, it wont go well. This is the exact reason it is wrong to get over involved in foreign affairs, especially when we have no evidence that they are one with the enemy.

    This same thing happened in Vietnam. I'll bet that this conflict will end in a similar fashion.
     
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  11. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    Probably the best candidate (that's not saying much), but he's going to decimate what little social security your country has, so good luck with that if he gets in.
     
  12. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    Meh, Social Security is and was a mistake. I'm not a recipient, so I count no blessings

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnouqsg92ck"]YouTube - Will Congress Raise the Debt Ceiling?
     
  13. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    It's just another reason Ron Paul won't get in. Try telling a 70 year old to his face that he's gotta go back to work to support himself and see how he reacts.
     
  14. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    You do have a point there. Informing Americans that their own lives must be sustained by either them or family members will be a daunting task. But he seems to have no fear in delivering the news.

    Going constitutional may be a long shot, but if it hits its intended target...it will be worth everything on the flip side of the coin. We might have to go back to the premise of 'the family takes care of the elders'
     
  15. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    hopefully he has a heart attack when he gets told that.. then we don't have to worry about it do we?
     
  16. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    if he gets elected and sells the forests to timber companies and tightens credit to the point where there is literally no money left for folks at the bottom, remember that i tried to warn you
     
  17. Ddoright

    Ddoright Senior Member

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    Ron Paul is wrong for America annd his son is worse. Libertarians sound good - let people smoke pot - anti war etc. But it's basically every man for himself. S/S - let em die if they can't afford care. Education - not his responsibility - if they can't afford & education - let em shovel Paul's manure. HeLth care- nope - starving kids - tough shit. Plow under old growth trees - they'll grow back . Just leave him & wPhat he has alone - the country will be perfect - FOR RON PAUL!!!
     
  18. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    Good! Everyman for themselves... I'm sick of supporting social security sucking leeches anyways.. i much prefer my money in my pocket.. not some crackhead.. or some single mother whore who can't keep her legs shut or some war vet that thought they were doing something to better the country.. oh you're messed up in the head? well you shouldn't have signed up to go kill people mercilessly.. what kind of world do we live in that killers should deserve a silver fucking spoon in their mouth at my expense
     
  19. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    There will be a transition period I'm sure. If the education programs that were established decades ago had done any good...we wouldn't need them by now and kids/parents would realize the importance of school, or the IMPORTANCE of it being taught to the youth. The problem isn't the government not doing enough, its the parents not raising their children to view education as a beneficial goal. If you never talk to your kid about the importance of working and being educated you will have quite a few dumb unemployed people a few years down the line. Its a money pit, and it wouldn't be so bad if they weren't lowering the standards of testing to cover their own asses. They know that it was and is not working and it should at least be re-thought before we continue to pour our money into it.

    Social Security will be exhausted by 2041, I planned on retiring in the year 2054-55, but I'll have to work until 2060. Due to them advancing the retirement age to 69. So believe me when I say, I understand the 'risks' of no safety net. If he does fix the tax system, the inflation of the dollar bill and we pull off the biggest debt liquidation in the history of all debts, then we can actually know what its like to live on our own money. They have taken away liberties that made us American just to support this sense of entitlement that people have. There has been way too much 'working together' between the parties because now it feels like some kind of humane mutant collage that hurts your eyes when you look at it. We need one side to take charge, and it just so happens that establishing strict constitutionalism will fix the financial crisis. Mainly because whats supporting most of the S.S and federal reserve(whats causing the problem) is illegal under constitutional law.

    He is completely right in everything he is talking about, as far as the TRUE responsibility of the government. The problem is how he will deal with the people who were promised assistance, the people on some form of Medicare, the people who have already paid money towards social security (whether they will get their money back), and like you say the starvin' children which I'm sure he would have a plan for. Any politician that leaves people to die isn't doing his job right. Its a long shot to be sure, but hey. I can dream, cant I?
     
  20. Ddoright

    Ddoright Senior Member

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    You're funny. Don't find too many hip people who cares only about himself and will keep what he deems to be "HIS" no matter what happens to the poor, sick, hungry, and dispised. Reminds me sorta of Jesus.
     
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