Anyone care to say if there any holes to his preaching? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwMZynm6p8I"]YouTube- NTEB: John Hagee and Revelation Revealed. Pt 1.
Well the fact that pre-tribulational (dispensational) premillennialism is wrong is a great big hole in his theology. The Rapture as viewed by most Protestants (e.g Left Behind style) is a theological fallacy.
That true Christians get raptured prior to a 7 year tribulation, then Christ comes again (the "rapture" was a coming, no?) again. This is the heart of his message Knowing that, his entire preaching is flawed.
When the rapture happens its never a matter of jesus second coming but sweeping up its faithful before the crazy 7 years. its has nothing to do with jesus coming where do you feel his saying that?
Verses people use to describe the Rapture describe meeting Jesus in the clouds. I am assuming this is Earth, which would then mean Jesus has a "secret" return prior to his public return. That detail aside, being "raptured" prior to the Second Coming isn't Biblical.
I don't know whether or not anybody's taken a poll. I hope "most Protestants" don't believe that crap. I know I and other Progressive Christians don't. Premillenial dipensationalism marks a major turning point in the development of Protestantism from an emphasis on Jesus' message of love and social justice to the bizarre apolcalyptic docrines that keep the Pharisaical televangelists in business. Most fundamentalists assume that these strange beliefs are "traditional", but they are mostly a reaction against Enlightenment rationality and science, especially the Higher Criticism and Darwinism of the nineteenth century. Darby's crazy beliefs have led more than one bunch of nuts to give up their worldly possessions in the expectation that they will be whisked away to a better world while the rest of us suffer--which is okay with them as long as they're spared because they believed the right set of nutty doctrines. On the positive side, this should mean that most conservative Republicans will go on to their just rewards, leaving rational people in charge. Sociologist Nancy Tatum comments that thanks to Darby and the Scofield Bible, millions of American Protestants began "to read the scripture as if it were a puzzle containing clues to God's historical timetable." Salvation goes to those "clever" (read stupid) enough to figure out the puzzle. I remember watching a chilling Trinity Broadcasting special once when many of the leading evangelical celebrities--Robertson, Fallwell, and others--were describing in bloodthirsty detail what's in store for the non-raptured rest of us, one finishing the another's senteces in an apocalyptic round robin. And where is love in all this? Missing in action.
Yeah, I probably should have narrowed the group down to specific Anabaptist offshoots, like conservative Evangelical groups, conservative Baptist groups, and some others; not "most Protestants". I am glad that the consensus is that it is crap.
He's kinda all over the place and he makes it sound like some people get special treatment. I'm not sure that anyone gets special treatment or is rescued.
"I have no right to say who will sit on my right or my left. My Father has prepared those places for the ones he has chosen." "...unless that time of calamity is shortened, not a single person will survive. But it will be shortened for the sake of God's chosen ones." "And he will send out his angels with the mighty blast of a trumpet, and they will gather his chosen ones from all over the world -- from the farthest ends of the earth and heaven." "Two men will be working together in the field; one will be taken. the other left. Two women will be grinding flour at the mill; one will be taken, the other left."
There are a lot of scriptures dealing with the end times and without a comprehensive idea of what they all mean it is easy to misunderstand what individual scriptures, like these, are saying.
I dont think he makes it sound like anyones getting special treatment other then there the believe who believed in JC and the once who dont believe. The believer are being saved for whats to come and leaves the ones who are against God on earth......I see no special treatment but other then fairness....
I think apocalyptic teaching is totally beside the point. Even if you feel that there is some future final reckoning, the fruit that is measured is propagated now. Time is very short, way short of eternity. If you are waiting for tomorrow to come, you are screwed.
I don't see how they can mean anything other than exactly what it says. This is Jesus speaking and it is pretty plain. If you have something to add please do so.
As a creation of god my reckoning is assured, whether I am a christian or not. Expecting what? Preparing what? I hear streusel is good.
Expecting Jesus' return and Judgment Day, and preparing your soul and all souls you can reach for his coming.
humm, Repent, reorient the pentacle of the senses to be vigilant only for god and his kingdom, loving god with all your mind and strength. Love your brother as yourself. Forgive and you are forgiven. The last judgment that restores the kingdom to you is yours. In the kingdom of heaven the first shall become last and the last shall be first.
