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Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by Jointman69, Feb 19, 2005.

  1. Jointman69

    Jointman69 High Nigga Pie

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  3. Jointman69

    Jointman69 High Nigga Pie

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    ok thanks :) i ordered a g of the 20X and got a free 5x gift.
     
  4. Budman420

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    you cant handle it
     
  5. The Beige Bomber

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    Oh boy. 20x? This is your first time trying it? I would reccomend HIGHLY to at least hold off on the 20x, and try that 5x first. I just had my first salvia trip a few days ago. I don't know if I could even trust the 20x. I smoked 2 bowls of the 5x, and that was a pretty powerful trip for me. Please, please, please be careful.
     
  6. RoBoWaLkEr

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    The most I've ever done at once before was 2 huge bong rips of 15x, and that was too damn crazy. I didn't even know what the hell was going on for like a solid 5 minutes. Apparently I forgot that I was holding in that 2nd hit, and was speaking casually with smoke coming out of my mouth not noticing it. For your first time, definitely no more than 1 good hit of 5x.
     
  7. Jointman69

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    and your a cocksucker, besides your the one who told me to get 20X in the first place.
     
  8. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    :mad:

    People, DO NOT POST YOUR FUCKING SOURCES ON THESE FORUMS.

    The last thing I want to see is a good, honest company be SHUT DOWN by the DEA for selling psychoactive substances to people who use them recreationally!

    So SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY. Go PERSONALLY ask someone if they think one source or another is reputable; that way narcs can't peruse these forums and just pick whatever site they want from the litter.
     
  9. RoBoWaLkEr

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    Though I do agree with you on that one, it is only iamshaman which sells only legal substances...and mimosa hostillis rootbark incense. ;)
     
  10. Hikaru Zero

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    I agree that IAmShaman is a good site and could probably beat out the DEA, but the last thing I want is a really great company like them even standing a chance at going out of business over something so trivial, you know?
     
  11. RoBoWaLkEr

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    Yeah, too many stupid people out there. I think us with common sense are in the minority...
     
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    i dont know how old this thread is but this kid is in for a BIG FUCKING SURPRISE!! hahahahahahaha, hey jointman, post your 1st experience on here, let us know how it went.
     
  13. Jointman69

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    lol, i will and yeah i know its gonna be a bit heavy. im gonna start with the 5x tho.
     
  14. Disconformitized

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    hey zero why are u fliipping out? as far as i know salvia isnt a scheduled substance... and from the research done on it, if it were scheduled it would have to have it's very own category, seeing how there's very low chance of abuse and or addiction
     
  15. Hikaru Zero

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    I agree that there is a very low chance of abuse and addiction, but that isn't to say that it's not possible.

    Remember, there is a bill in Congress to get it banned. That bill is there because Salvia has caught the eye of the government. This means, we can't just go willy-nilly, we have to be responsible. And, the government has closed down many other sites already, just for selling psychoactive substances.

    Salvia could technically be covered under the Analogue Act(s?), which means that the list of Schedule I substances includes all substances that have an effect similar to another Schedule I substance. Now, from a hippie's perspective, Salvia may not be very similar, but the government could easily call Salvia a Schedule I substance, and then have the place shut down.

    That's why it is very important to protect the integrity of your supplier. =)
     
  16. Colours

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    has anyone actually died using salvia . . . or do they see people having fun with salvia so they ban it
     
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    coffee has more simmilarity to cocaine and speed than salvia has to anything
    ooops dmt is pretty simmilar, and it got scheduled, hmm.
    but dmt can be toxic and needs to be processed from plants to work.
    salvia (salvinorin) is non toxic and just a plant (extract).
    it's a pretty mixed up business, and isn't dmt produced inside our heads?
    maybe we should be scheduled for something as analogues.
     
  18. Hikaru Zero

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    they see that it has (somewhat) similar effects to Schedule I substances, which "automatically" bans it, due to dumb laws.

    Noone has ever died from using salvia.
     
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    Those dumb laws are in place because 16 year olds couldn't shut up and be cool about using RCs and other interesting molecules...and they're going to succeed in making Salvia a Schedule 1 substance as well. I'd advise anyone with a serious, respectful approach to ethnobotany to stock up on their favorite sacred plant, because the idiot little stoners will fuck this one up, too. That's why a friend of mine has a large inventory of T. peru, as it's just a matter of time.
     
  20. Colours

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    hmmm i never thought about that.... do u think it could become valuable
     

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