Raise The Minuimum Wage So People Can Eat!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by robspace2, Nov 9, 2006.

  1. robspace2

    robspace2 Banned

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    I can't believe how hard these big companies that make millions in net profit every year; will fight like hell to keep their workers at the lowest possible wage they can get by with-How much profit do they (the owners) need to feel good about themselves?-Don't they understand that a company is only as good as it's work force-?-Pure greed!-Whatever happened to rewarding hard work with bonus's and pay raises?-How does Sam Walton sleep at night?-This guy pays nothing and has it all-thats just wrong-A man or woman that works an 8 hr. day should be able to support themselves on that-not 4 or 5 more hrs. of overtime-thats bullshit and it wrecks the homelife and causes breakups when one of the persons is gone working day and night-An 8 hr. day even at minimum wage should be enough to pay the rent and eat decent-but it's not-and it's not right-
     
  2. Columbo

    Columbo Senior Member

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    Dont you have an acceptable minimum wage over there? Thats ourageous in this dayn-age Britain introduced a minimum wage but before we did there were all these arguments about how it would ruin the economy and push prices up - but none of the scare mongering came true after the MW was implemented -In fact the economy stabilised a bit more for some reason - maybe fewer people were forced to get loans and overdraughts etc
    Our minimum wage is about £5 or $10us per hour whats yours?
     
  3. poor_old_dad

    poor_old_dad Senior Member

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    Federal Minimum wage is US$5.15 & that's before taxs come out.

    Peace,
    poor_old_dad
     
  4. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    even if you raise the minimum wage by $2 it does not matter, the living wage (the wage needed to realistically support yourself as a grown adult) is about $14.

    obviously raising it to drastically would lead to inflation and we are back to square one.
     
  5. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I have a hard time understanding how corporate executives and legislators can continue to fight a raise in the minimum wage when they would shit bricks if they didn't get expanded wages and benefits every year.
     
  6. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    What's not to understand? We've stood idly by while corporations slash jobs while rewarding CEOs and CFOs with huge bonuses. Businesses have been absolved of any real civic responsibility to their employees and the impact that their wage scales have on the area economies. This lays bare the real purpose of any business: to funnel as much cash as possible into the pockets of top executives and stockholders while paying as little as possible for work performed. It's all about greed.
     
  7. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    As long as we live under wage-slavery in the capitalist west this will be a never ending battle. There will always be a minimum and it will never be high enough.
    A living wage is good start though.
     
  8. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    2 questions:


    1. How is the amount of the minimum wage determined,what's taken into account?

    2. To those who say the minimum wage causes job loses,then what were the results of the last U.S minimum wage increase back in 1997 as far as job loses?
     
  9. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    1. Not sure, but I think the average price index of things like milk and bread and other basic commodities are taken into account.

    2. The sky didn't fall chicken little!
     
  10. robspace2

    robspace2 Banned

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    Raising the minimum wage has never hurt the economy or created job loss-That is just another scare tactic to keep money in the owners pockets and out of yours-Look at the money all these companies are saving by not paying an employees health insurance--oe cost of living increase or retirement benefits-When did it become fashionable to rip off the people who build the companies and do all the work for them?_No honor or respect for the worker or his family-It would be ideal if a man coild make enough in a day so his wife could stay home and raise the kids instead of paying out the ass for a stranger to do God only knows what with your kids while your bustin your ass-to feed everybody-It should not take 2 people to work full time just to survive-thats bullshit-
     
  11. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    Shit, i make more than minimum wage, i don't splurge on anything(no cable, no home internet, no new car, no brand name foods, no beer anymore, no nightclubs or bars, no fast food, i don't even pay for my weed anymore ) and my fiance and i are always struggling to keep up on bills and provide for our 2 kids. I can't imagine trying to raise a family on min wage...
     
  12. robspace2

    robspace2 Banned

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    I had the misfortune of living in Texas for a while in the 80s-Everybody made 5 bucks an hour!-that was big money!-I'd ask a guy how much he made and he would always tell me the gross for the week-not the amount per hour-The gross was real good but then ya look at the amount of ovetime (hours) and it was huge-so-people like the Bush family love keepin the common person in Texas workin for minimum wage because they pay overtime-like thats a big incentive to work some more-right to work means right to eat less and die broke younger!-give tax breaks to the rich only-Hey George-YER DONE YOU GREEDY SCUM BAG-WAR PROFITEERING LIAR!
     
  13. robspace2

    robspace2 Banned

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    I can't either-and then there's health care for you and your family-not affordable-the pharmacutical companies have their lobbiyst givin head to the Senators to keep the prices up-while the same stuff is for sale at half price in Canada-That bullshit is gonna change-real soon now-Way too many people die for lack of health care or meds-we are becoming a 3rd world nation as the rich get richer and everybody else pays for it!
     
  14. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    But buying drugs from Canada isn't safe is it? Isn't that the spiel the Republicans fed us.
     
  15. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    When the American voter bought into the soundbites that by supporting that viewpoint they were securing our place in the American dream. What we didn't count on was that it was a total lie to line the pockets of those that were already so rich, we could never dream of ever living like they do. And they never had any intention of protecting our way of life only their own.

    Ralph Nader tried to warn us.
     
  16. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Bingo! You couldn't have possibly put it any better!
     
  17. robspace2

    robspace2 Banned

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    Any company that really cared about it's workers and their families would not pull up stakes and relocate in some 3rd world nation that allows sweatshops to thrive-That is one bad move I have to blame Bill Clinton for is NAFTA-It sounded like a fair deal at first though-Squeeky Ross Pero warned us on that one-That "sucking sound" is your job leaving the country-Bush gave incentives and tax breaks to companys that relocated and outsourced-thats ass-backwards-To bring home the jobs' GM shipped out to Mexico would really help our ecomomy-But once again the people making the big profirts could care less about the economy as long as their profits go up from hiring cheap labor-Funny thing is who can buy a new Chey if they just gave your job to a Mexican-?-
     
  18. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    You're fucking kidding me right.
     
  19. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    Is that all or are going to contribute a counter arguement?
     
  20. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    How many posters on these Forums work full time at The Minimum Wage ?
    Or, does anybody know someone working full time, min wage?

    Here in New Jersey, supermarkets and gas stations start you at $8. plus. for part time work.
     

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