Post-Election 2004: Thoughts and Resources from higher being

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  1. twiggie

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    http://www.itstime.com/election2004.htm

    Hello to all of you. We are here.

    We realize that there is a great deal of dismay following your most recent United States of America election for 2004 presidency. This is to be expected when observing the surface of the events, but when the emotional and intellectual reactions clear, there will be more clarity and certainty than presently anticipated.

    Currently the United States is predominantly Mature Soul as an average soul age, but Young Soul perceptions are the predominant perception, even among the majority of Mature Souls. It is a confusing time for the United States as it transits from the Young Soul values and perception and into the Mature Soul values and perceptions.

    Most of the Mature Souls in the United States are 1st Level to 3rd Level Mature and this does not make for strong stances for Mature Soul values. With approximately 90 million Young Souls and 100 million 1st through 3rd-Level Mature Souls dominating your country, it could be said that nearly 200 million fragments are contributing to the paradigm of the Young Soul. This number is more than the number of counted voters in your most recent election, from what we can determine at this point.

    If every Old Soul and every 4th Level Mature to 7th Level Mature Soul were to have contributed to the vote, that number would only be approximately 40.5 million fragments. If you factor in the Baby Soul population, the older fragments with the higher perspectives are vastly outnumbered.

    We share these "statistics" with you as a means to put into perspective how the United States is growing, progressing, and maturing in its own natural way.

    We have stated before, but will state again, that one of the catalysts for final implementation of Mature Soul values and perspective is THROUGH the medium of Young Soul events. It is naturally, the "only way."

    From our perspective, it is important to note that more Mature Souls voted in this election than did Young Souls. But with the inclination to support familiar Young Soul values, it could be said that nearly half of the counted votes were collected from "young souls."

    The impact of electing the current president will most likely be the final catalyst for the implementation of a Mature Soul paradigm. The Mature Souls who voted for the current president of the United States are eager for something dramatic to change the paradigm to which that country subscribes.

    From the Personality level, the votes were cast as a means to uphold the familiar, but on an Essence Level, the votes were cast as the most potentially-combustible and permanent path of change available in your time. The contrast between "now" and the time of what would be your next election may be quite striking and, in the end, quite beneficial.

    We will open the floor to your questions now.

    QUESTIONER: Also, aren’t many of the "older" souls still children and not of voting age?

    Of the 40+ million fragments we would refer to as "older souls," it is valid that approximately 25 million of these fragments are under the legal voting age.

    QUESTIONER: What can you see happening in the next 4 years that would be beneficial? In other words, can you be more specific?

    We do not (and cannot) predict, but we can see the probabilities that appear to be more or less likely to manifest. The term "beneficial" is subjective, but we will use it in the context of events contributing to the stability of Mature Soul perception. In that context, there are two major events of high probability that will contribute to that change:

    1. The assassination or dramatic unseating of your current president; and
    2. The revelation and factual reveal that both elections of the current president of the United States were a result of conspiracy.
    We do not wish to "add fire" to the concept of "conspiracy," but part of your dismay and intuitive repulsion to the recent election is not rooted simply in disappointment. Your inner perception of this event will more than likely be vindicated within the next 4 years.

    The "benefit" then of this election will most likely be the complete overhaul of an outdated voting and political system. When your voting system and methods have been changed and implemented, you will then know you live in a Mature Soul world.

    QUESTIONER: Can Michael suggest ways that we can stay in positive poles and avoid getting caught up in Maya and our Chief Features (fears) on an individual level during this difficult time?

    If you wish to stay in the positive poles of your overleaves, we suggest considering this time frame as no different from any other time frame in your life. It is not the first time you have been disappointed, betrayed or appalled. That is simply a part of life and this time is no more difficult than any other.

    Most of the "difficulty" that is being experienced at this time by older fragments is an exaggerated emotional extrapolation from the speculation or expectations of the resulted events, but not from the reality of the events. In other words, where the early Mature Souls are living through outdated Young Soul perspectives, the older souls are living through outdated Mature Soul perceptions, tending to over-dramatize events as a means of alleviating boredom and rediscovering purpose. Therefore, within the context of this specific disappointment and dismay (the election), and the resulting drama that may begin to unfold from this, we suggest a conscious examination of your specific Soul Age.

    We suggest gently examining your True Soul Age and implementing your own paradigm in ways that you are capable of living. It could easily be said that if the older fragments do not implement their own soul age, it does nothing to help the evolution of perspective among other fragments.

    In other words, "Be yourself." Find ways to BE more fully who you are. If you are confused about what it means to "Be yourself," this phrase always means being who you WANT to be at that moment. There is no way you CANNOT "Be yourself," but being conscious of the process and expression can help navigate you through your personal world more peacefully and with more fulfillment.

    QUESTIONER: Regarding the emphasis placed on "moral values" among voters and the alarming growth of Christian fundamentalism since the 1990s (which is equally repugnant to liberal Christians like myself and non-Christians), this [moral value] seems to have a broader appeal than just among Baby souls looking for religious structure: is that true, and what would be the reasons for it among other soul ages?

    There are several reasons that may apply here: One is that most organized religions are not "spiritual," but more a means of competition, territorialism, division, and gain. Christianity marked the full implementation of the Young Soul age on your planet, so it is not surprising that Christianity is the primary religion of a Young Soul country. "Christian Moral Values" is simply a Young Soul means of justifying the methods of protecting the comforts of gained territory, wealth, security, etc.

    Another reason for the appeal among various soul ages is that it is simply the popular religion of the United States. Along with iPods and AOL, most fragments in a Young Soul paradigm find the most popular to be the most appealing, regardless of the quality, resonance or practicality. All soul ages are susceptible to that appeal when living in the Young Soul paradigm.

    And finally, of course, there are legitimate levels of spirituality found by any soul age in any distorted religions of your time frame. All religions were initiated or built upon a legitimate spiritual tenet.

    SIDE NOTE: It may be of interest to you to note that Religion is a Young Soul construct using the ingredients of Baby Soul myths. It is many times thought that Religion is a Baby Soul construct, but that has never been the case. Religion is highly appealing to Baby Souls, but it is the Young Souls who manage that business. We have yet to see a more powerfully marketed, unquestioningly-purchased and ultimately pointless product on your planet. This is not to say that value is not ultimately extracted from the experience, but we have seen more detours in personal and global evolution due to the freely-accepted oppression of religion than from any other context in your history.

    QUESTIONER: Will fundamentalism continue to grow or will there be greater tolerance for things like gay marriage?

    Religion, Politics and Commercialism will continue to collapse and rebuild itself in a way that accounts for diversity, not conformity. That is the key difference between where your world is moving and from where it is coming. It is already happening without being truly noticed, but it is happening. The implementation of hundreds of television channels, for instance, is a Mature Soul paradigm. The "death" of subsidized radio and a restricted music industry is another. The Internet is yet another.

    When diversity becomes the foundation of Politics, Spirituality and Marketing, you are in a Mature Soul paradigm.

    In more specific response to your question: There is an irony in the current election result and the revival of religious fundamentalism: many Mature Soul personalities may soon suddenly discover that they simply do not fit into the very world they sought to sustain. Consider a teenager who has taken great steps to rebel against the obvious future of his responsibility as an adult; so, too has the Mature Soul rebelled within the comfortable paradigm of the Young Soul. But as with the teenager, the Mature Soul will simply find it exhausting to maintain a paradigm from which it is inherently alien and eventually embrace its growth.

    QUESTIONER: Is the Diebold company part of the conspiracy?

    Of course it is.

    QUESTIONER: Sequoia?

    Of course it is.

    We do not wish to convey that all parties involved within those services are part of "a conspiracy," but there are a handful of fragments with an agenda that is as obvious to us as it is to you. There is an 89% probability of this fraudulence being validated publicly, though actions taken as a result of this may be less-obvious until much later.

    We will conclude with the next question.

    QUESTIONER: The fraudulence of which you speak: Is this part of the so-called 10-year program designed to hypnotize people to vote against their own best interest?

    No. We know of no such program in which "hypnotism" is involved.

    The fraudulence of which we speak is simple misrepresentation. If all votes were counted accurately, you would not have your current president.

    We will conclude with a statement: It is important that you consider choosing for your emphasis to be on the greater patterns of your planet’s evolution in Soul Age. While it may be exciting to speculate wildly about the dramatic possibilities, it is also as exciting to consider the beauty and innocence that IS your fellow sentience.

    As the Mature Souls must eventually let go of their Young Soul paradigm, so does the older soul have to eventually let go of the Mature Soul paradigm (at least, internally).

    Consider that there is an irony in your distaste and repulsion at this time: It is a clue to your next (and possibly last) step toward Agape.

    How do you love the unlovable? How do you love those who hate? How do you perceive innocence in the midst of violence? How do you extract possibilities in the midst of restriction?

    This current event is not just about your planet’s evolution through an average soul age, but about your own Soul Age that is under self-scrutiny at this time.

    Can you love?

    Can you rediscover trust in a way that includes the soul of another beyond his False Personality?

    We do not ask these questions as a means to convey "new age" clichés, but as a valid response to many of your feelings at this time.

    Beauty is defined by us as "the recognition of patterns." Chaos is "the lack of recognition of patterns." You live in an intelligent universe within an intelligent design that allows for both Beauty and Chaos, both of which are simply a matter of perspective. The Older Soul is capable of acknowledging Chaos, while perceiving Beauty. Regardless of any physical, emotional or intellectual circumstance, the choice will always be yours.

    We will conclude here. Good night to all of you.

    [​IMG] Voter Statistics

    Based on our recent chat with Michael, I thought it was interesting to explore further the numbers Michael shared.

    United States’ population is approximately 303,000,000 (according to Michael).

    Soul Age Demographics:
    17,450,000 Old (about 6%)
    123,000,000 Mature (about 41%)
    90,000,000 Young (about 30%)
    67,850,000 Baby (about 22%)
    5,000,000 Infant (about 1%)

    Total Counted Votes Soul Age Demographic Breakdown:
    15,000,000 Mature/Old (older souls) 13% of the votes
    45,000,000 Early Mature 39% of the votes
    30,000,000 Young 26% of the votes
    25,000,000 Baby 22% of the votes
    An extremely minor number of Infant Souls voted.

    This accounts for about 38-39% of the population of the United States.

    51% of the votes for Bush =
    40,500,000 Mature (about 99% Early Mature)
    9,000,000 Young (about 99% Early Young)
    10,000,000 Baby (about 99% Early Baby)

    48% of the votes for Kerry =
    15,000,000 Late Mature/Old (older souls)
    4,500,000 Early Mature
    21,000,000 Young (about 1% Early Young)
    15,000,000 Baby (about .5% Early Baby)

    Michael explained to me while I looked at these numbers that far more late-level Baby and Young Souls (in this case, 5th level to 7th level) voted democratically than did early Mature. They explained that this is because those in the latter levels of a Soul Age are more likely to intuitively anticipate the most useful future environment for their growth, but the earlier levels of a Soul Age are more inclined toward what has become familiar and comfortable. So it looks like the votes were affected not by Soul Age, but by Soul Age LEVELS! I had never considered that before!

    Michael went on to explain that they believe over 2,000,000 votes were discarded, uncounted or rendered unacceptable, and that over half of those were for invalid reasons and in "key states."
     
  2. skip

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    Cool! I suppose you're referring to Michael, the disembodied being who is channeled by ???. Can't remember who does that.

    An interesting POV to say the least! I hadn't heard of this hierarchy of souls, but I assume it parallels Kolberg's moral development theory.

    I agree with the overall implications of this. In fact as I was reading it, it seemed to affirm what I and others have felt about the elections and this time in history.

    Instinctively we know that the election was a sham. We know that Bush was gonna lead us down the wrong path, obviously so an important lesson could be learned by Americans. Whether it will be learned by enough of us to prevent this kind of shit from happening again, is uncertain at this point. However there does seem to be a lot of re-evaluation going on in conservative circles, esp. since this is an election year and they look like they've lost too much ground to win.

    Perhaps we won't get fooled again?

    We'll be fighting in the streets
    With our children at our feet
    And the morals that they worship will be gone
    And the men who spurred us on
    Sit in judgement of all wrong
    They decide and the shotgun sings the song

    I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    Then I'll get on my knees and pray
    We don't get fooled again

    The change, it had to come
    We knew it all along
    We were liberated from the fold, that's all
    And the world looks just the same
    And history ain't changed
    'Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war

    I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    Then I'll get on my knees and pray
    We don't get fooled again
    No, no!

    I'll move myself and my family aside
    If we happen to be left half alive
    I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
    For I know that the hypnotized never lie

    Do ya?

    Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

    There's nothing in the street
    Looks any different to me
    And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
    And the party on the left
    Is now the party on the right
    And the beards have all grown longer overnight

    I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    Then I'll get on my knees and pray
    We don't get fooled again
    Don't get fooled again
    No, no!

    Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

    Meet the new boss
    Same as the old boss
     
  3. rainbowedskylover

    rainbowedskylover Senior Member

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    fucking strange to read, but interesting. where can i find more information about the maturity of souls?
     
  4. twiggie

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    To get to know more ab't old souls 'n what they are doin' now for the planet earth, try as you may reaching out for the spiritual evolution resources:
    contact this site

    http://www.wingmakers.com/

    people who have been attacted to this site are very old souls led by the "string of events" to be papared for the transition time of earth Gaia( AD. 2011 aprox., for the density transfered)and the next coming of "grand protal".

    or you can read "THE LAW OF ONE"~ books(1-V)are chnneled from the 6th density ETs complex unit call "ra". earth is currently on the level of 3rd density.

    http://www.lawofone.info/

    most "wanderers" will find above materials extremely useful and answer their confusion bein' born in the physical inclined world....What is a wanderer anyway?

    Some wanderers are ETs who have come from elsewhere to planet Earth for this incarnation or at this time. Many other wanderers are earth natives who have matured spiritually to the point of awakening to their metaphysical identity, thereby making the worldly identity less real, and creating the sense of being a stranger in a strange land.

    Both types of wanderers are in the same situation here on Earth now, in that they often don’t fit in well here, for their inner universe has shifted, and the “real” world for them has shifted from the earthly world to the aesthetic and ethical innerness of the metaphysical world.

    wanderers are not alone, we are all very old souls(or mature souls at the later stage) now more sensed of our links and the services we need to perform for the planet earth

    this guy as below is a typical wanderer for instance...

    http://www2.hawaii.edu/~boyne/

    _Namaste (the divine within me greeting to the divine within you)
     
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