Police can just GPS you.

It's okay. The police can always track you by GPS and track your every move without a warrant.

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Everytime you use a cell phone or a credit card or a passport, they know where you are.

You're plugged in. You've got a number on your forehead.


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They can track you wherever you are if you have a cell phone, even if it is turned off. As long as the cell phone has a battery and the battery is charged, they can track you and even listen in to your conversations (with the phone off).

 

This also includes all vehicles with the OnStar system, which is basically a cell phone unit.

It has long been known that your conversations inside the vehicle can be monitored without your knowledge.



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Wait, how is it possible that you can be monitored with a cell phone when it's off, and your conversations can be heard?

Because that doesn't make any sense.

 

Because all cell phones now have an external microphone.

This is pretty much common knowledge. Even FOX News reported on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G1fNjK9SXg

 

FOX News? Why would I believe anything FOX News reports??

External microphones only work if you have the necessary earpiece thingy. I don't understand the technology behind how this even works. And uhh, I'd rather not look to a sensationalist news story from the TV.

 

excerpt" F.B.I. uses cell phone mics as eavesdropping device"

By Declan McCullagh, News.com
Posted on ZDNet News: Dec 1, 2006 10:20:00 PM
The FBI appears to have begun using a novel form of electronic surveillance in criminal investigations: remotely activating a mobile phone's microphone and using it to eavesdrop on nearby conversations.
The technique is called a "roving bug," and was approved by top U.S. Department of Justice officials for use against members of a New York organized crime family who were wary of conventional surveillance techniques such as tailing a suspect or wiretapping him.

Nextel cell phones owned by two alleged mobsters, John Ardito and his attorney Peter Peluso, were used by the FBI to listen in on nearby conversations. The FBI views Ardito as one of the most powerful men in the Genovese family, a major part of the national Mafia.

The surveillance technique came to light in an opinion published this week by U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan. He ruled that the "roving bug" was legal because federal wiretapping law is broad enough to permit eavesdropping even of conversations that take place near a suspect's cell phone.

Kaplan's opinion said that the eavesdropping technique "functioned whether the phone was powered on or off." Some handsets can't be fully powered down without removing the battery; for instance, some Nokia models will wake up when turned off if an alarm is set.

While the Genovese crime family prosecution appears to be the first time a remote-eavesdropping mechanism has been used in a criminal case, the technique has been discussed in security circles for years.

The U.S. Commerce Department's security office warns that "a cellular telephone can be turned into a microphone and transmitter for the purpose of listening to conversations in the vicinity of the phone." An article in the Financial Times last year said mobile providers can "remotely install a piece of software on to any handset, without the owner's knowledge, which will activate the microphone even when its owner is not making a call."

Nextel and Samsung handsets and the Motorola Razr are especially vulnerable to software downloads that activate their microphones, said James Atkinson, a counter-surveillance consultant who has worked closely with government agencies. "They can be remotely accessed and made to transmit room audio all the time," he said. "You can do that without having physical access to the phone."

Because modern handsets are miniature computers, downloaded software could modify the usual interface that always displays when a call is in progress. The spyware could then place a call to the FBI and activate the microphone--all without the owner knowing it happened. (The FBI declined to comment on Friday.)http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1035_22-150467.html

 

Thanks for the article, Zombiewolf.

I have found that most people will only believe what they want to believe, regardless of how much proof there is to support it. If it is too far removed from a person's comfort zone (their conditioned view of what they believe to be reality), they will merely place their hands over their ears and act like it doesn't exist. It's a defense mechanism.

 

I would have thought that referencing a fox news report would have more impact in this case, considering they tend to downplay most "big brother" shit.

But yeah, its the bell curve of perceived truth, the further a concept is from the comfort zone, the less people will believe it. When you reach the top of the bell you have concepts no one is willing to consider.

Like, say what you consider to be your mind is not your mind, but instead your thoughts and feelings are controlled by a parasite that has the human race as sort of cattle, to harvest the energy produced by fear. Our world view is projected into our consciousness with the purpose of maintaining that fear.
The human race has been under siege since the beginning.
It would certainly explain a lot of shit.


Who would entertain such a concept? (hmm, new thread?... which forum....?)

 

How is that possible? Do they hack into the satellites or get permission to obtain remote access from the manufacturer and service provider of the cellphone? What the heck is Nextel?

How do they install remote software? I don't understand how this is possible when the cellphone is off.

How do I know if this is possible with my cellphone or not?

 

Off is often not really off, but just sort of "stand by".
Installing software is easy, with the cooperation of your provider, they can do it while you are taking a call. If you're paranoid about it, I'd pull the battery.
Where I live there is no signal, so they can't track me till I get about 15 or 20 miles closer to town.

 

Please. The NSA has unlimited power, a massive budget, and surveillance technology most of the public has no clue about. They don't need permission. That's why there are entire rooms at AT&T operated by the NSA which are monitoring every call that goes through.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/07/AR2007110700006_pf.html

 

My cellphone is like, a million years old. I doubt it has any tracking abilities when it's turned off.

 

We don't have AT&T here, so I can't see how I would be affected by this, nor do we have NSA. CSIS is probably terribly unequipped as well, we don't have the kind of phone services and communication technology that exists in the states.

 

AT&T was merely the only one that was exposed. If AT&T is working with the NSA, you can be pretty sure they are all. It's not rocket scientry to put 2 and 2 together. I mean, it's been known since not long after 9/11 that the US and Canada are sharing information about their citizens and that the US' surveillance powers go well beyond the United States' borders.

I mean, haven't you ever heard of FISA -- you know, the thing Obama and McCain both support??

 

Well, yes and no. The Verizon, AT&T wiretapping laws have changed the way that clients are targeted and their privacy rights violated.

You never count your chickens before they hatch. I'm sorry, but you can't assume that all service providers subscribe to illegal or mandated privacy breeches like remote cellphone access for the purposes of tracking, spying and warrantless trailing.

I've heard of FISA, and it's a crock of shit stacked on an existing shitpile that is the shitload of shit in the Patriot Act. (So how much is a shitload anyway? It's such a common and universal increment, I wonder if you consider a shitload to be an Imperial shitload or a metric shitload?)

Who says that Canada is sharing information with the USA besides the regular stuff that we already know about?

CSIS is fairly ill-equipped for that kind of thing. And our rcmp isn't all that much to be concerned about. The most shocking info found in de-classified files in Canada thus far from our Security Services is: http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hbyMJ6ha4xiJezt9Y9icQj1OGrDg

 

OMG communists!?!?

Call Dudley Do Right!

 

If you believe that, then I have some oceanfront property in Kansas I would like to sell you.

You're right, though, the laws have changed. Now they can spy on anyone 24/7 without a warrant or probable cause.

 

That is what I meant. I was shooting the breeze and skipped over what I really meant by change. I'm a little distracted tonight.

But the FBI and CIA have been wiretapping for eons. This kind of solidifies the coolness factor involved in fighting commies, doesn't it?