PLZ POST! is everyone here a birth control junkie?

i know a million people are going to call me stupid, but is there anyone out there that has an ethical and/or personal problem with birth control in all its shapes and forms? i mean, my friends in real life are about half and half. and i am kind of an odd example because i swung from a hardcore christian wait until marriagekind of person to a freelove anarchist marriage is an institution kind of person in a very short amount of time...and before i started having sex i was against condoms and birth control theoretically because the pill is bad for chemically,and condoms arent natural. ive been told they make sex a lot less pleasurable. anyway, so the first guy i had sex with used condoms most of the time with his past girlfriends, and i was waiting for an argument, but in the end we just started having sex without a condom and i didnt have to fight for my right to not use birth control (kind of a role reversal huh?) well i havent gotten pregnant and birth control especially condoms seems like such a joke now. my friends and i joke about. we go to the store and look at the condoms and laugh at the different kinds. but it seems like most people here are obsessed withso called safe sex. plz post your thoughts on this

 

Have fun with STDs and unwanted pregnancies.

 

...you can't be serious?

you realize that you're going to get pregnant unless you have some physical problem that has left you infertile, right? And that you are very likely to be infected with any number of nasty STIs, right?

Condoms definitely don't help out sexual sensations, but they beat herpes by a long shot.

As someone that is so concerned about what is natural and what is not, what will your attitude be when you get pregnant? Are you going to be a 15 year old (but "natural") mom or are you going to do the unnatural thing and abort the fetus?

 

Ignorance is when you do something because you don't know any better. Stupid is when you know better and do it anyway. Which of these are you ?

 

well for one thing condoms dont stop herpes. sry. yeah, i knew this would be most peoples reaction. good thing i've got my hippie girlfriends to backme up, or i might start doubting myself

 

condoms CAN prevent herpes, but you're right, they aren't 100% efficient. However, they are against many other common STIs like the clap and chlymdia.

I hope your hippie girlfriends are still backing you up when you're pregnant and riddled with infections. Are they going to help pay the bills and take care of the kid? Probably not, so maybe you shouldn't let them influence your decisions too much.

 

number6, this is something that i have had a lot of problems with lately. i am not stupid or ignorant. i make the best decisions i can with the emotions and information i have. everything i have ever heard in school, on tv and movies, in magazines, and from family and friends contributes to the decisions i make. and this is one decision i made, knowing the risks. i could ask you to respect my right to make these decisions as a an individual but i doubt it would do any good.
and i mean these in jest, but plz tell me you dont call yourselves hippies?

hopefully we at hipforums can live and let live?

 

I respect your right to do whateverthefuck you want, but I still think you're a dumbass.

 

the only problem with just "letting live" with this one is that

A- you're a 15 year old girl that's making a very bad decision and it would be much better if you didn't learn the hard way.

B- you're exposing not only yourself, but others to risk by having unprotected sex. Their fault equally, but contributing to the problem doesn't help it.

C- your actions will involve many if you get pregnant. Your own life will instantly change, your parents will undoubtedly have to take care of the kid at least somewhat, and of course, there is the child itself.

Your actions aren't just harmless fun. They negatively affect yourself and those you care about. I understand that you've recently got into this all natural hippie life style thing, but some "unnatural" things were made for a good fucking reason, and condoms are one of them. Do you see the problems that Africa is having with HIV? They don't believe in condom use either.

 

yes, honestly, if i got pregnant, i wuld get an aboriton. does this make me abad person? maybe. i don't know. but i know a lot of people including friends and family who have had unprotected sex with multiple guys and are not pregnant an dont have any stds. these people might be lucky, but why are there so many of them? and as you know from my other thread i am not currently in a relationship so right now this is all philisophical. books and other educational media have told me what i am doing is wrong, but the empirical evidence i have gathered supports my decisoins. anyway, i wasnt asking for a lecture somuch as what each individual feels about for theirselves and their bodies. how do you feel like it affects you and your sex life? what have your parents, family friends teachers and religious leaders told you about it that really stuck? etcetc, personal beliefs for theirselves, not critiscism of mine.

 

So you'd rather have an abortion than just use readily available preventative measures?

 

I am all for abortion, but it pisses me off when people abuse that right just because they're too thick headed to use birth control.

 

i'd rather take the risk of having to get an abortion than use these readily available measures on a regular basis.
you know what? fuck you guys! this is stupid republican propaganda.
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(joking)

 

i can't tell if you're serious or not. is this all a joke?

If it's not, answer this question specifically:

If condoms are unnecessary and just a ploy, why is that Africa has an HIV epidemic and rapidly multiplying population (almost entirely made up those in poverty)? Is it possible that their is a correlation between those problems and their refusal to accept modern birth control and disease prevention techniques?

 

If you are having unprotected sex with multiple partners then you are asking for whatever you get. If you understand the risks, but refuse to take precautions, you are an incredibly foolish person.

 

let me ask you something: do you know why africa has an hiv problem?
one word: bridges. don't understand me? read the poisonwood bible. its very simple and i could explain, but form me youd laugh in my face. anyway, barbara kingsolver writes it out on paper better.
and personally i think that if you are only in monogamous relationships, and that if you get tested for all STDs in between relationships and wait for your results, then get retested six months later and wait for those results before having sex again, you are being responsible. another responsibility is to know your cycle and know when you are most fertile hence most likely to get pregnant.
and im guessing someone is going to say its unreasonable to wait six months to have sex and i couldnt do it, i disagree. a friend of mine and i went celibate. i lasted about nine months longer than her, for a total of eleven months. almost a year. we were aiming for alot longer, but that is decent, don't you think? with a lot of temptations at that. i am being responsible. so stop arguing. peace and love man...free love! anyway i should stopposting because this forum is not what i was hoping for.i was interested in how people felt about birth control especially condoms for THEMSELVES. if you cant talk about that, then LEAVE! i was hoping for a lighthearted and insightful conversation, but you are taking this way too seriously. lighten up.

 

you missed it,but like i said, MONOGAMOUS. do you know what that means? this is my philosophy, not polygamy.

 

Well, as much as you're trying not to you just sound like a silly teen ager to me.

 

okay. you win. every scrap of evidence in the scientific and real world is wrong.

 

thank you. I'm barely out of my teens and I'm still incredibly juvenile and stupid in many aspects, but I can't help but see this as just a major case of misguided teen rebellion.