please help!!

hey yall i need some support....

i'm feeling bad because a lot of my friends that do mj and other stuff are being assholes/bitches to me. It seems like they only wanna hang out with me when i got weed with me for them to smoke with me for free. And not just that, but the girl stoners don't want much to do with me at all. I really like to fight claims that people that do drugs are cruel and cold-hearted, but it's hard for me to fight this claim right now.

I guess what i'm asking yall about is this... does any toker on this forum treat other stoners with respect and by respect i mean the following
1. doesn't rip off someone
2. is not judgemental
3. accepts people for who they are
4. doesn't hang out with people just b/c they have weed and will match (share their mj w/ mine)

Overall i would say that nobody has met all 4 requirements. I'd say too that 25-40% of people who sold bud to me have been legit (good deal thats weighed out on a digit) but don't want to hang out with me. Another question i have are these 4 requirements too much to ask?

 

I don't think that it's too much to ask. I would have to say that you're wrong when you say the nobody meets all four requirements. I've never ripped anyone off, I'm not judgemental(because I know how it feels to not be accepted), I accept people for who they are(which is the same as not being judgemental), and I definitely don't hang out with people only when they have weed.
I don't even like to smoke with people unless I can contribute to the cause.

 

I've always been told I'd make a good dealer, but I just enjoy my sweet mj. I'll share with close friends, but if I just met you, fuck off, find your own plant.

 

i do.. i hang out with my freinds cause theyre my freinds & i never even mention weed unless maybe i havent smoked in months..lol
generaly the freinds i hang out with are very kind people & would always treat eachother with respedct.. i've noticed 1 or 2 who were moochers who tend to hang around on occassion, but theyre not really anyones freinds
perhaps u should seeek new freinds?
maybe cut back on your own smoking so its not sucjh an issue??
if thats the basis of all your freindships then theres definately a problem, & its mnot with stoners in general, its with the nes your hanging with
how are they otherwise as people?

 

I'd suggest you find new friends, there are people like you mentioned (people that don't rip others off and don't mooch, ect. ect.) out there, I think you've just gotta find em. And when you do, it's funky fresh, haha

 

Unfortunately, there are a lot of people like that in GA. It's usually when they are around people that have great weed because it's so expensive around here.

 

thanks yall,


ya i know there's friendly stoners out there, what i meant is from my experience i've had trouble finding them. If i had the oportunity i'd share my nugs with topnotch, mjphys, and others on this site cuz some are pretty cool people

 

in my group, friends always pitch, or else they get cut. But sometimes the can have a bit if they really need a hoot so we'll help em out.

 

There is a problem with groups of people who get together because of one subject. Makes no difference if its dope, alcohol, or politics. The people are in the group because of the subject - not necessarily the other people in the group. The subject (weed in this case) is what they are looking far, so a lot of them will rip other group members off emotionally and other ways because it is the weed that matters not the people.
I would look for friends first - then if they turned out to be smokers so much the better. However, the bottom line is to look for folks who like you - not folks who like your stash.

 

i'd share with you man, which is rare cause usually me and my friends buy off eachother lol.

yeah just fuck them if they're being gay like that...u cant be a doormat for them or they'll never respect u. be a man and make them pay in if they never give u any

 

"Gay" as a pejorative

When used with a derisive attitude (e.g. "that hat is so gay"), the term "gay" is purely pejorative and can be deeply offensive. The derogatory implication is that the object (or person) in question is inferior, weak, effeminate, or stupid.

This usage has its origins in the 1990s, when homosexuality was widely known about but still taboo. Today, the usage is common among young people, who may or may not link the term to homosexuality, much as some people may not intentionally link the term "jew down" (to talk down in price) to Jewish people, or "I was gypped" (I was cheated) to Gypsies.

Other spellings, such as "ghey" and "ghei", are sometimes found on the Internet and are supposedly used either to insult without reference to homosexuality or to bypass chat room censors.

So whats up with the gay stuff - are you like a bigot or what?

 

i think you should just look for friends outside teh weed culture. unless all teh people outside the culture are totally against weed. you gotta remember that weed is a drug, and MOST people are effected negetively. its usually the friends you make -after- becomign a sotner that are most likely to rip you off and do all that stuff. what about the friends who you had before taking drugs? who entered the culture along with you? have they completely changed?

you can never escape people like that when dealing with drugs, all you can do is try to keep your distance, if you care about it that much at least. I smoke up my real friends for nothing. but if theyre just anotehr typical druggy who choses weed, then i wouldnt be too against expecting them to pay back or perhaps ripping them off. though, ripping people you hang out with off is stupid because then you simply get a bad reputation.

but really, ssj3, if you want to find people who arent judgemental you gotta be more like that yourself. you cant deny that on these forums, even if its for the right cause, you are quick to judge people this way or that.

you are largely developed by the people around you. and just as others can influence you, good influence, if actually carried out, can change your friends. start smokin them up without expecting payback, if you dont already. this will not only mean that next time they infer you have to pay them back, you can politely inform them of the times you gave them stuff for free, but also they will probably begin to do it back to you.
dont make serious pay outs to your mates. start being an actual hippy, without being a 'wussy'.

if you actually do all this in real life and they still treat you like shit then your only solution is to find new friends. but id put my money that while you might want them to change, you still conform to their ways when often in their company. which is understandable. but it doesnt get you anywhere.

there are plenty of non judgemental, sharing stoners. but rarely will the two groups intermingle -much-.

 

i mean, ill add my experience. i smoked at first onlny with my closer friends. first times i smoked, it was totally for free. i felt great. so when i introduced my friends to it, i obviosuly didnt make them pay if they wer smokin with me. sure, if they were to take it off and smoke somewhere else, id deal em up a fat bag.

then i started meeting up with people who were rela stoners, who had been smokin for a few years. they were gettin me to buy from them, and then wed each smoke from our own stashes. ok, whatever, i thought. i would just do the same to them. but i would keep being good to my friends who i socialised with for reasons other than drugs (though often including drugs).

the more stoner groups i found, the more i realised that each group is different, though the people in teh groups are generally the same.

theres tonnes of differnent types of stoner groups if you just leave the confines of perhaps your school peers, or regular smokin group.

I act accordingly in each one caus i dont really care. but sometiems my friends start getting a bit cheap or .. you know insencere. thats when i tell em how i see it and remind them how i have treated them (like a wise sensei.. now this can get contempt from some groups but not when theyre youre real friends).

at first when i started smoking, i was skeptical about teh warnings to make sure you remember who your true friends were. but now i realise its a real warning, but that it doesnt mean you gotta not hang out with the non-friends. it just means you have to be aware of it, and remember to keep the people who are your friends as they are. its a team effort, smoking groups. but most humans are horribly judgemental and selfish. its teh way of the world. you gotta learn to live in harmony with it.

 

Although I didnt read everyones reply, so sorry if im repeating somthing. One thing i didnt see mentioned, although it could have been. Have you ever thought that maybe you arent a fun people to hang out with?

Ive only met one person in my life who has no judgements towards everyone. I think you are being a hypocrite in saying you dont judge people. Just like you judging theyre assholes. Maybe they are assholes to you because they dont like you, but it doesnt mean theyre assholes to everyone. Just because people dont want to hang out with you doesnt make them assholes. Hanging out with you just for weed, I will admit is an asshole move, but there are people that I hang out with, and that hang out with me, only when there is weed involved. Its the only thing we can form a friendship around because otherwise its just ehhh.

Maybe you should try to develop a smoke only basis relationship with them and see how that goes. Instead of buying weed, and letting them smoke for free, call them up, ask them if they want to throw down with you.

 

Awesome reply dude......i also have friends where the only way we can bond is when we'r smoking up or if weed is involved.....

 

whats the point in bringing it up? maybe you shoudl change that 'not sure' in your profile to 'gay'?

 

indeed, perhaps they are only hanging out with you for weed. so why are you hanging out with them if you dislike them so much? perhaps.. weed? hehe

 

That's fuckin stupid. Just because he doesn't agree with people using offensive language doesn't mean he's gay. And even If he if he is, what does it matter to you? We're here to talk about weed, not to insult people based on sexual preference.

 

why is gayness such a touchy subkject im america? so many americans seem to either call eachother gay or take extreme offense to it..

 

if he took his time correcting all of the senseless words people use on these forums hed...well hed be wasting his time.