Phenethylamines vs. Tryptamines

which do you prefer?

 

Tryptamines, albiet i've only tried... AMT, Psilocybin/Psilocin (4-HO-DMT / 4-PSOP-DMT), 4-AcO-DMT and LSD.. My tryptamine usage isn't quite extensive yet. Im focusing much more on them now anyway, soon to try DPT, DMT, DMT+Harmaline (ayahuasca), 4-HO-MET, 4-HO-MiPT and 4-AcO-DiPT, and another mystery tryptamine when my vendor stocks up.


now as for phenethylamines ive had..

2C-B
2C-C
2C-D (in a few days)
2C-E
2C-I
2C-T-7
MDA
MDMA

and can't think of any others.


But the fact that tryptamines, fundamentally alter your reality, and the trip is much better (ie more revelations) phen trips don't get me wrong are amazing, but i think their best suiter for aesthetic appreciation of things, not sky rocketing you to another place in space and time, where space and time do not exist. I think tryptamines, provide you with the information thats stored in our DNA, so they are a MUST!

thats just my opinion on it though.

 

Sex on lucy or even mushies if you want mellow are amazing. I'm new to the syn world , just got me a vendor trustworthy.ot my first gram 2c-e yesterday. I've always had a stocked freezer of lucy, so never wanted to try anything. Feeling alittle experimental I guess haha. anyway whats everyones input. Thanks guys. I've been reading hip for some time now. my old user name was madhatter85. these threads have changed my mind on syn's. so we're gonna try this out.Thanks all

 

Tryptamines, no competition. PEAs are still fun as hell and even very educational/spiritual. But they dont compare to a peak high dose tryptamine experience.

 

i've gotta try a tryptamine (other than mushrooms)
acid doesn't really count as a trypt does it?

 

I have not had to many phens.
2/e
2/b
both as a combo
DOC
MDA
MDMA
Tryptamines are the shit as well as i love their visuals
only got to really try a few
Lucy(which is technically not a tryptamine but still acts much the same on the 5ht receptors acting as a tryptamine.
Tad bit of DMT not enough to really get out there though
Fungus

Would like to try some 5meo-DIPT or something, that would be nice

overall tryptamines have the ability to create a mind fuck, get you really out there and help me have more hindsight and forsight into life.

 

DOC is an amphetamine.

LSD is a ergoline. Not structured like tryptamine nor phenethylamine. All three however work on the 5HT2a receptors.

I like tryptamines better, they are more "magical" to me. They have more of a connection to something... PEAs just kinda make u see shit, and give you this good body high. No magic though, for me.

 

Yeah, i forgot it was an amphetamine type analogue and did not correct my post. Tryptamines do have that mystical feeling to them. Like being put in a different spiritual realm. While PEA's just create the experience for the most part and lack the "magic" or what not of tryptamines.

 

DOC is an amphetamine, but it is also a phenethylamine (amphetamines are included in PEAs)

I haven't really explored many tryptamines, although i'm looking to try some. But PEAs do have some good one's; a strong dose of mescaline can certain have some mind effects. plus with PEAs, they generally have more of an entactogen property which changes the trip and alot of them are stimulants which also make the trips unique.

so i''m definatly gonna try doing some tryptamines, but i think that there is certainly some depth to phens.

 

I figured we were talking on the skeletal structure. Bases of structures include amphetamine, right? I dunno. I know amphetamine is a phenethylamine though.

amphetamine= Alpha Methyl Phenethylamine.

We could also say that all of them, including lsd, are benzenes (or phenyl rings)... I was just thinking on the common conception of a base or skeleton.

 

honestly, it's hard to say, but i voted for PEA's, simply because 2c-c is my current favorite chem.

 

2c-c?!

 

I just can't handle where tryptamines take me for some reason, its always a dark and scary place that puts me on edge. Ive done 2c-I 5 times and all times were awesome.

 

from a recreational standpoint. i have a very low threshold for psychedelics, so 2c-c can still get me REALLY out there...though i've only tried 2c-c, 2c-e, and 2c-i [sold to me as MDA]. i enjoy the mild nature of the introspection that 2c-c provides, and the absolute beauty of the intense OEVs.

i REALLY can't wait to try 2c-b though...

a low dose combo of 2c-e and 2c-c was really intense, but i just can't handle the jaw grinding of 2c-e. i really want to try 15 mg of 2c-i [oral] and 25mg of 2c-c [nasal] at the same time...or something like that.

 

I said trypts since I've had way more experiences on those, and they've usually been great.
But just to get it out there, and I'm sure I've said this before, 60mg of 2ce is IMO right up there with my DPT experiences.

 

True they all are benzene rings. And both are amines.
and the thing you pointed out about amphetamine brings up an interesting similarity between amphetamine and AMT

amphetamine = Alpha Methyl Phenethylamine
AMT = Alpha Methyl Tryptamine

 

I don't know if you were trying to be an ass or what. But that is a very interesting thing!

For me, it stand to reason that if I like amphetamine, and I like tryptamines more than phenethylamines; I should really like AMT!

w00t! +1 for greg!

New name for AMT, amtramine.

 

actually it was a couple day's ago i read Alexander Shulgin's remark that "AMT is the amphetamine of the Tryptamine family." And i didn't really understand it at first, but chemically they share the same structure of having a CH3 (methyl) group on the alpha-carbon. And i know most of the guys on this thread have some particular interest in AMT (i know Mr. Writer is one) i thought it might be interesting to point out.

 

yeah i'll agree aMT is a wonderful tryptamine, not threatening at all.

 

i like tryptamines!