All my adult life, I have put up with male obsession over penis size. Enough already! It is time to get to the bottom of this issue. My question is this: Have you ever, even once in your life, known of a male friend or acquaintance who has been told by a woman that his dick was too small? My hunch is that very few guys are going to respond to this question. I only hear women bring this up on TV shows and in the movies, and I'll bet all those scripts were written by men. I'm convinced that men have made up this issue out of thin air. Maybe there are guys out there who are significantly less than 4 inches erect, but the percentage of all men has to be a very low number.
I will add one more question. Ladies, are any of you sick of hearing guys go on endlessly about this?
Yes. Enough already, boys. Your dicks are lovely. I blame porn. Have you ever seen an average dick in a commercial porn movie? Because I can't imagine something like that. You know that last year I changed my rabbit vibe because the size wasn't satisfying. Now I can finally enjoy penetration during masturbation. You think I bought something bigger? No: I changed NMC's Muffin Mucker for Seven Creations' Bead Blossom. Google them for sizes. For every 100 topics with girls wailing that sex hurts because their bf's cock is too big I saw maybe one topic written by a girl wanting to make it bigger. Ditch the measuring tape – work on technique! Especially edging. Besides if one finger feels good doesn't it give you a clue about something?
I guess I can see where they might stress on it... if a dude is average and he sees alot of porn, it might set him up to feel inadequate about it for awhile. If he is then a bad lover, he might get that he isnt doing it for her but not know why, and maybe go back to assuming its due to smallness. I personally have never worried about it. EDIT: I love the way our minds work without us knowing it. Check this out - WildOrchid posts with some great, down to earth advice. It agrees largely with what I said and how I feel about the topic. Then I see the "Have you seen the average cock in a porn?" comment, and I cant help but feel pride about that fact that yes, I have, and I am just about the same size. Even though I like to think I am a sexually liberated guy, with no more hangups from my young days, and no misconception about sex, I still get a unconscious and overpowering sense of accomplishment, just because my dick is bigger than average. Makes it pretty easy to see how a guy with 4" or 5" might get obsessed with it, huh?
Yeah, never underestimate the power of denial. There is a certain look of control around women you find in guys that is only really achieved in one of two ways: 1) Those that have had a certain level of sexual experience with women, usually the straight alpha male, about 10% of the male population 2) Those that have a low sexual interest in women, half the gay guys (the other half are petrified around horny girls but we wont go into why that is here) Everyone in between sees the quarterback in high school getting all the hot girls, he's usually bigger and taller, thus he must have a big dick. Less confronting to blame penis size rather than admitting you're never going to be a guy in that 10%. A girl breaks up with a guy, later everyone finds out it was about sex, less confronting to think it was about penis size than admitting to themsleves they were a crap lover. They see 40 something business guy driving around in the BMW with a hot 21 yr old, well even though the guy is 6'5" and 3 foot across the shoulders, it can only be about his money. They see 40 something Janitor walking down the street with a girl half his age, well that has to be his daughter, then when we find out its the girlfriend, well then, it has to be cos he has a big dick, even though again he's 6'5" and 3 feet across the shoulders, or he can last more than 5 minutes in bed, or he is just simply a real great guy that doesnt slobber over every hot girl he sees. Its analogous to the weight loss thing, we all know its diet and exercise, yet how many quick fix products are out there. Same thing here, if you are a straight guy, you want more attention from women, hit the gym, and do anything to stop thinking too much about sex around girls, whack off 5 times a day, get a f buddy, or see some call girls, but dont blame the size of your things, thats a copout. KJ, you say your are a women sick of guys obsession with their tools, Gay guy here, I can't count the number of times I've made a new straight male friend, things go along smoothly until I meet the wife / girlfriend, we become besties in under 5 mins, then all of a sudden he reverts to sookie mode. Penis size thing, its just a cover for the real issues, the ones they never say out loud
Good points VG, although I would like to hear your thoughts on why some of us are "petrified of horny girls". I totally agree, and have in fact been that guy... with no idea why I was so frozen with apprehension... PM me if you want.
You don't really see average looking women on commercialized porn either. Actually I have heard a women tell a guy that he was small, it was his now ex wife but after a lot of drama I unfortunately found out the guy was tiny but abnormally tiny. He has to special order his condoms.
Good point. This is one of many areas where porn is unrealistic. They are going for maximum visual impact, not realism. I can see that there would be some false comfort in blaming everything on a factor that you have no control over. It's a victim mentality.
You see that's why I don't complain, I think if you can fit your penis into a regular sized condom without a draw-string you should shut-up cause it could be much worse. Btw, Love your sig.
You can always count on an ex to tell you exactly what you don't want to hear! :rofl: I think the key point that Bonkai made earlier was that the small condoms had to be special ordered. It is a rare enough problem that the drug stores can't justify keeping that size in stock - not even one box. That means that 99% of the guys who stress over this issue don't need to. I can put my little finger in my pussy and squeeze it firmly by contracting my PC muscle. That means I could get some pleasure out of being fucked by a dick the size of my little finger, which is less than 3 inches long. Like any other muscle in the body, the PC gets stronger when I excercise it. I have heard that some experienced prostitutes can squeeze a drinking straw. That puts at least some of the responsibility back on the women.
I think they just say stuff like that to get girls to talk about it... so then we'll say stuff like "oh yours is fine", or "let me see, it cant be that bad"..lol
There is one more side of this issue that nobody has mentioned. Some guys grow a lot more than average when they get hard. A lot of guys are shorter than 4 inches relaxed, some even less than 3 inches, but grow to 5 or 6 (or more) at erection. There could be some legitimacy to the worry that not all women realize this, and could reach the wrong conclusions if they see us naked when not hard. Remember (on American televison) the infamous "shrinkage" episode of Seinfeld? Jerry was certain that Elaine knew all about all the factors that effect penis size, but she didn't. No guy wants a woman to think he needs one of those "special order" condoms when he honestly doesn't. I realize that most women are more knowledgable about this sort of thing than they were in the 1980's, but I doubt that everyone understands. This is not a problem in dating, since the girl usually sees the guy hard before she sees him soft. It is more of an issue in nonsexual nude settings, like nude beaches and locker rooms.
Excuse me everyone while I sidetrack this thread for a bit. Kama, I won't go into detail, cos Its really left field and complicated. Has a lot to do with that repressed memory crap, that no one really believes till it hits them. No one really remembers much about 0-5 years, some of those memories dont come back till we see kids of that age again close up, which doesnt really happen till we or our close friends have kids and we really see how some behave. But roughly, gay, both in guys and girls has a bit more to do with being smothered by the opposite sex or trained as one of the opposite sex in those early childhood years, than we remember / realise. For the guys that get smothered, not by all girls, but by those at either end of the spectrum; sex: used as a grinding post by those girls in that top couple of % where biology starts the earliest, Love, or that bonding part of love: that top couple of % the most clingiest. Influence of early childhood is something not just confined to gay though, it goes for everyone, why some straight guys are boob men, why some arent, why some straight girls are real daddies little girls, some arent. Part of post natal depression in the girls has to do with this, pregnancy rewires the brain, sometimes that brings back memories of how they were when they were little, just how close to daddy they were, or a brother. Stuff that may freak them out, and they cant really talk to anyone about it. You also have to try work out the stuff people never talk about, no kindergarten teacher will ever talk about having to seperate some girls from their male counterparts and why, and vice versa with some little dudes. They aint going to talk about having to stop some 5 yr olds fiddling with themselves during nap time, when most don't. No dad is going to talk about having to train his 4 yr old daughter out of one sure fire way to get his attention, especially if she doesnt do it in front of anyone else. Add to that this fate stuff, everyone prefers to think their fate is in their hands, really annoying to work out later on just how much your subconscious was leading you all along. What does all this have to do with this thread? As I said before, never underestimate the power of denial