Alright so, as a former heroin user,I very much enjoy opiates and I like that little moment of relief from my constant stress that they give me. Getting that small relief seems to carry over into the rest of my life and relieve some anxiety in general -- like getting a massage or something. I have, however, been clean from opiates for a year since I last did heroin, then I used kratom around once a month for the last 6 months, but my friend and I have been wanting to have a real opiate night together for some time now and we don't really want to do heroin because its an impure street drug, kratom cuz its week, diluadid and fentanyl because they make you sick and have shitty euphoria and OC because its too expensive nowdays, so we wanted to try oxymorphone (Opana). I might also be interested in trying hydrocodone, though, as I really enjoyed the euphoria from the syrup I have found a decent deal for Opana (ER) 40's and I have heard that this is supposed to be pretty much the ultimate opiate (also something exotic, because it is unavailable in Canada). Firstly, I wanted to know if you guys agree or disagree with this? What is your experience with Opana? Also, will a 40 between two people be enough, or should we get two or three of them? Or would I be better off with just vicodin? Or maybe I should just say fuck it and get some good quality heroin? since I do opiates so rarely and have been saving myself for long enough to cut my tolerance down (and don't plan on doing them again for a while after this dose), I really want to do a fine quality opiate. I won't settle for something crappy and I don't mind spending a lot.
Been on opana for almost two years....will reply later on cpu on phone now sorry...but will get back to u
alright, chill. I'm really interested in hearing about this one. Most Other opiates really haven't been pleasurable enough for me to balance out all the negative affects. I'm hoping this one's gonna be able to break it even.
Hey Hedge, So I'm also a former heroin user, and I've used just about everything out there, including Opana. Unfortunately, my experience with it was....underwhelming, to put it lightly. When I tried it I had been on 3 OC 20's a day plus a few 10/325 Perc's for breakthrough for several months. My pain doctor was concerned because my tolerance just kept rising and so she wanted to put me on something different and decided on Opana. She gave me an Rx for Opana ER 20's and Opana IR 5's. I went home and tried em (at this point I had only been chewing the OC's - this was 5 years ago when the original OC's were still out there, so chewing actually did release the drug all at once - but that's it. I tried eating the Opana's the same way I had been with the OC's and they helped with my pain, yes, but there was no buzz at all. What I've heard, since then, however, is that Opana has a relatively low oral bioavailability, not as bad as Dilaudid (30% ish) or Morphine (10-30% range), but not like the 80% Oxy provides. The literature seems to put Opana's oral bioavailability somewhere in-between, around 40-60% depending on a person's metabolism. I figure I must just be one of those people who metabolizes the Opana really poorly through the stomach and intestinal tract. I don't know what ROA you were thinking for your Opana's, but everything I've read suggests that either insufflation or IV provide the fastest onset and highest peak concentration levels in the bloodstream. In other words, they are probably the best bang for your buck, if you'll pardon the pun and the alliteration, lol. However, I have no idea how one would go about banging an Opana ER tab - the ones I had were like the old generic OC's - they gelled up if you crushed them. The IR tabs, probably just dissolve and filter, but don't quote me on that. When you were using H what ROA did you use? Because if you were a smoker, I suppose Opana could be smoked like Oxy's.... Anyone out there who has tried a different method of using Opana besides just eating them want to weigh in here? I have a feeling some of you might have had a better experience with this drug than I did. Good luck Hedge, and whatever you decided to do, make sure you check the conversion charts online against a drug you know your tolerance to so that you don't go overboard. -V
Excuse my bluntness but how does a fellow Canadian like myself find oxymorphone? I've always wanted to try them but can't afford a trip to the states or Mexico. Please share the love ! .
Opana - only had the chance to try it once as I had an import from America over here along with a load of other American drugs. I've got to say, in my humble and personal opinion oxycodone is still my number one. Although codone is converted to morphone, the BA of opana is relatively low as you've stated and it is the only active metabolite of the drug. It was more intense - I insufflated it, and 40mg will have you on your ass if you don't have a tolerance and may possibly cause you to overdose as its a pretty potent opiate. It's much like diamorphine in that its very moorish and noddy. The oral BA is around 10%, nasally 40%. It's not well tolerated in some individuals. If taken with alcohol however (which I REALLY don't recommend orally the BA becomes around 70%. Again, 1mg IVed is a strong recreational dose for someone who is non-tolerant to opiates (just to go by with comparison). I can't stress this enough - it's fucking moorish. You'll want to redose horrendously after it starts to wear off and this is dangerous. The tabs are the same as OPs - they gel on contact with water. If I were you I'd split the tablet into 5mg segments. You can either take a shot of liquor and swallow the 5mg or to be safe insufflated it and work upwards. Remember you can always put more in but never take out. Considering you don't have a tolerance at the moment opana is probably not a great idea to use if you haven't touched opiates in a while. If you're insistent on using though take heed and also research further into the drug not just read mine and others posts regarding it. The euphoria is great, but short lived. I dont know. I'd spend that little bit extra on the oxycontin rather than the opana again it's up to you. Did you know that taking a high dose of milk thistle 80% extract increases the conversion of oxycodone to oxymorphone? It also prolongs the high. It also is a safer and more viable option. While about 10% of an oxy dose is converted to oxymorphone (80mg = 2-5mg - perhaps this puts it into perspective as to how potent oxymorphone is!) with thistle it can increase to around 20% and is safer than taking pure morphone. You said you could get Vicodin - I've never tried that one but I suggest sticking to that. One 40mg tab will be plenty for two people. Do NOT buy more than one tab it youre planning to use it once. Having extra lying around will urge you to redose further at the time possibly and will leave you with extra left overs if you dont overdose and take it easy. If you have a history of addiction to opiates though really be careful my friend. Especially so with the opana if you decide to use it as I mentioned.
Original Opana stop signs were the best pills I have ever laid eyes on! The last time I came across them was 8-9 months ago and I had a very high tolerance to oxys so 1 30mg stop sign opana would get me really high! Now a days they don't have the crushable ones so they are terrible... all that shit they put in it so you can crush or melt down is worse then the shitty OP's... By far the original stop signs were my favorite.. If anyone ever comes across them I suggest they snort them cause they don't make them anymore.. Oh man if this doesn't make sense I apologies I'm nodding out right now I snorted 2 Mallinckrodt Roxie's and smoked a little piece I'm on cloud 9 right now and I can hardly type!
I'd be down to try the milk/thistle thing you were talking about. Also, since I plan on doing opes for a night, then not re-dosing the next day, maybe I should go with something less moorish? I can usually avoid opiate cravings, even with heroin and fentanyl and shit, but maybe if it's that bad, I'll cave? (although I won't be able to get my hands on anymore oxymorphone affter I get this one) the only pills I can get my hands on are the yellow circle Opana 40 ER's, but I can also get my hands on snort/IV-ready Oxycontin 80's (although they're around 10$ more expensive than the Opana), but I cannot find stop-signs. Based on this, do you guys think I should buy the Oxycodone or Oxymorphone? I have a very low tolerance as all I've done lately is kratom and a small hit of fentanyl (and very little opiate usage over the last year, no heroin whatsoever)
