No War, No Warming!

Discussion in 'Protest' started by nodirectionhome, Oct 6, 2007.

  1. nodirectionhome

    nodirectionhome Member

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    October 21-22, there will be a protest in Washington, D.C. to show the government that we have had enough of its disasterous foreign and environmental policies! The event is being organized by quite a few different anti-war/environmental groups... and people are organizing local actions for those who can't get to D.C.

    This protest appears (to me) to be aimed more at civil disobedience... it says on the website that we're going to take over the Capitol, sit in intersections, have die-ins, etc. :)

    I'm definitely going, and I'm willing to be arrested this time... it'll be my first time, so I'm pretty nervous. I have been doing some research on civil disobedience, though, so I don't think it'll be so bad if I have a better idea of what to expect... :/ Anyone have any advice for someone getting arrested for the first time?

    And... who else is going? :)

    P.S. You can find more info. at the No War, No Warming website: http://www.nowarnowarming.org/index.php.
     
  2. nodirectionhome

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    haha! lol, considering the other kind words you've posted on these forums (i.e. :troll: ), I'm pretty sure that was meant to offend me, but seriously, awesome. lol.

    I don't say "bro," though. My word is "dude," lol. And I don't think I'll get tased at all, because I'm going to be protesting PEACEFULLY, and I'm not going to resist arrest. :)
     
  3. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    He is a troll. It is pathetic that anyone would make light of a situation where someones basic rights were violated. But I guess that is what conditioning will do to you.

    Don't mind the child, he is part of the problem, not the solution, and is talking out of his ass.

    My advice to you, OP:

    "Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense." (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).

    "One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance." (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).


    There are many more instances I can post here, if you would like.

    Good luck with the protest in DC! I am gonna try and go to the one in Boston a week later.

    The kid you speak of, was arrested for NOTHING, he was not read his rights or told what crime he was committing and had EVERY right to resist arrest. The courts have ruled in civilians favor COUNTLESS times, along with the two examples I have posted. Know that, tell everyone. That is some very good advice.
     
  4. nodirectionhome

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    You're a funny man. :) haha.
     
  5. nodirectionhome

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    Carlfloydfan:

    I saw a person at the last protest who was wearing a shirt that said "Don't tase me, bro!" lol, too soon, I think. :p

    I remember reading some excerpts from those court cases elsewhere, probably during my researching, but I still don't want to fight back (at least not physically). Trolls and anyone else can call me weak (well, I am physically weak, lol), but I don't want to hurt anyone, ever. The most I would do is the sit down/lie down/go limp tactic... but even then, I don't think the judge will consider my arrest to be "unlawful" if I'm one of the people obstructing traffic or whatever, lol.
     
  6. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    If you are serious about the protest, have your facts and research gathered, be prepared to state why wars have a bigger impact on "global warming" than that your choice of light bulb does. The park avenue advertisers have already sold the public on the new bulbs, time someone else offered plausible well researched materials on why the new light bulbs aren't the only solution. Try and use marketing to work for your cause...but you can only do that if you are educated on the facts and not just attending a protest to be part of a popular event.
     
  7. nodirectionhome

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    ohemgee but i leik doin popular stuff, man! and wat r thees factz u speek of? lol.

    Seriously, though, I think we can assume that I'm not just going to a protest and getting arrested just because "omg all the cool kids are doing it, lol!" Getting arrested is not cool to most people, and just being a liberal is very not cool at my university.

    But I'm not sure I understand what you mean about "using marketing," sorry. :/ Do you mean just trying to educate people on the issues in my day-to-day life? I've been to... almost ten? protests already, and no one there has ever asked to explain anything to them...
     
  8. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Civil protest isn't a party. If you can't explain why you are protesting why bother? We aren't talking about some sort of rave that you can brag to your friends about attending.

    You probably see global warming as the greatest threat to your life and security. You are actually part of the problem.

    Bet you checked with your girl friends as to what they were wearing and how they were going to wear their hair and make up before each of the ten protests you attended, but you can't explain the reasons why you were there, or offer possible solutions to the problems.
     
  9. Magical Fire Lady

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    I'll go on Saturday if I can catch a ride. My university is doing a week of action for the war that week too!
     
  10. Wasteland

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    Can't make it to the Washington protest, but I will be at the October 27th protest in Jonesborough, TN. Read the thread on the October 27th national protests. There will be one in every region.

    The bulbs do work, but as you said, there is more. A big part of it is sacrifice. Be willing to live on what you need instead of buying the next big thing, be willing to conserve, to not buy a ton of disposable things, reuse things, if something breaks then fix it. There is so much you can do, and if you can convince more people to sacrifice, then we might actually make a dent in global warming.

    As for protesting the war, read as many books and articles that you can find. Pay attention to the news. Make sure you read things that are truthful. Make sure the facts can be verified. To know what's going on, think like a journalist.
     
  11. sunnycynic

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    why are you so mean to everyone? she wasn't rude to you. noone will listen to you if you treat them that way, so your cause/voice just gets weakened. chill out.
     
  12. nodirectionhome

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    I think you're making A LOT of assumptions about me based on my age and gender. Yes, I am a college student, and yes, I am a female. But that doesn't mean that I'm shallow or ignorant. No, I did not "check with my girl friends as to what they were wearing and how they were going to wear their hair and make up before each of the ten protests." In fact, I don't give a flying flip about my fashion, or my friends'. I only have one "girl friend," and I've only been to one protest with her.

    NEWSFLASH: College students and women can actually KNOW and CARE about issues. We are not all igorant and apathetic. Please take your ageism and sexism elsewhere. Thank you.
     
  13. sunnycynic

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    as a young, female college student who has been treated this way several times myself, i'd have to say....right on, girl! don't worry about him, he's a troll. all he cares about is upsetting people. he's replied to several of my posts and tried to make me look/feel stupid, when he actually pretty much agrees with me on the issue.
     
  14. nodirectionhome

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    So... was anyone there?

    I was, and it was awesome. [​IMG] I didn't get arrested, though. Not because I wasn't willing/prepared, but because it just didn't happen somehow. I don't know how it's possible to go to a civil disobedience protest and NOT get arrested, but apparently it is. Maybe next time, lol.

    At the protest... there were polar bears singing a rap song, a bicycle group that rode around the Capitol and stalled in intersections, and a blockade of an intersection by SDS and some other people. Apparently, there were other things going on, like people blocking the entrances to some House/Senate office buildings, but I guess they were with a different group. The group that I was with left a while after the arrest of a second (small) blockade of the intersection; we went on an impromptu march around the Capitol, and held hands and chanted in front of a House office building. It was great. I felt so powerful and connected to everyone. Then we had a press conference and a teach-in sort of thing on the Capitol lawn. [​IMG]

    66 people were arrested - 4 were minors (two were 13 years old!). And Homeland Security was there video-taping us. :p

    My favorite quote from today:
    "You don't have to pick up a gun to fight for your country. You can pick up a peace sign. You can pick up a protest sign."
    -Paul "the Peacewalker"

    [​IMG]
     
  15. polecat

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    read about it in the paper. Bottom left of the metro. Numbers of arrests were different though(59 total./2 minors-age 14 youngest), but it seemed to be sort of a bust. Nothing much accomplished, only around 200 protesters for little coverage. Too much gimmick, they didn't even mention a link between the war and warming. Better luck next time I guess.
     
  16. nodirectionhome

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    I think this protest accomplished about as much as other protests have. Although, I can't say how much that is, lol.

    It definitely wasn't as organized as they made it out to be. And we pissed off a lot of drivers with the blockades and bicycles...

    Still, I enjoyed it. The trainings for the event taught me a lot about civil disobedience and made me more prepared for things that I may encounter in later protests (e.g., blockades, pepper spray, arrest). And the event itself was very empowering and inspiring, at least, to me. [​IMG]
     
  17. TheMan123321

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    Can you enlighten me as to what you were protesting about exactly?
     
  18. TheMan123321

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    Dude can you tell why you are anti war n shit
     

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