Nice guys finish last?

As far as relationships are concered, true? not? 50/50?

 

depends on whats important to them.

In everything I think that matters, I'd have to go no. They finish first!

 

hard to say, depends on someone's definition of "nice guy." i've met any number of guys who considered themselves nice who were anything but.

 

I did a mini-rant on this exact topic in the Naked Earth Mamas thread... yes, for the most part, nice guys don't get the girl because so much of the time the girl sees the bad boy as a challenge... as dangerous... and therefore exciting. The nice guy is safe and no challenge, and therefore boring. "Hi there... I'm a nice guy. You know... brother material." Been there, lived it for way too long. You have to get out the other side intact before it finally pays off, but man does that take a lot of years. Most younger women simply don't see the value of a guy who's sweet and sensitive and stable and patient. They want to find a bad boy and then see if they can cultivate those qualities in him... don't ask me how this makes sense, but I've seen it for waaaaaaay too long. I'm sure that's a gross injustice to females as a gender... but I can only go by what I experienced from the time I started dating.

 

not in mine
I am definently a nice guy
and she definently loves it

 

My husband is a "nice guy" and he got the girl ;-)

I think that guys trying to be too nice tend to get screwed over because they are usually too nice to the wrong girl. I dated a guy that was too nice years ago, and I ended up thinking "dude, grow some balls!" because he was "too nice" What he needed was a sweet and naive virgin.....

I have always liked a man that treats me with kindness and respect, but is enough of a man to tell me "no" Few things turn women off more than a guy that agrees with them all the time. Have a mind of your own, and use it.

 

Like she said, there's a fine line between being a nice guy and being a spineless guy. Spineless is a turn off for most women.

It also depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking for a real relationship, your chances go up a bunch when you're a nice guy. If you're just looking for a lay however, you probably aren't gonna be the first choice for a fair number of women. A lot of chicks, especially around my age group, tend to prefera bad guy in the bed... and if you're just using them for a night or two you're gonna go after the allaround badboy because chances are he's like that in bed too. *shrugs*

Depends on what you want and what's actually nice in your book.

 

for a lot of situations, I think that's the problem right there

it is a pretty goddamn big line if you ask me, but girls tend to push the two together

 

bingo!

Also - this might be considered sexist by some but bear with me - what many women say they want, and what they actually want are often incongruous. A guy needs to be able to distinguish the one from the other. Certainly there are exceptions, and I'm not by any means claiming for example that 'no' doesn't mean "no", but for the random woman off the street, and the day to day, I'd say that statement is statistically accurate.

With that said - it's possible for a "nice guy" to learn what makes the "bad boy's" (or assholes) so attractive and apply it without becoming an asshole.

They're still going to get fucked over more than the asshole.
But that's because the nice guy actually cares enough for things to hurt.

 

Same here

 

i think im the "fuck me harder baby" guy ....

 

In my case, the nice guy is finishing last -- meaning, I finally found a nice guy and he will be the last one to have me (for the rest of our lives)! Not to mention the fact that he generally does finish last in bed, though that is just another part of being a nice guy!

Agreeing with me all the time does not equal being a nice guy. It equals being a spineless waste of my time. And, in most of my experiences with such people, they're not really very nice, just passive aggressively vindictive rather than being honest with me by flat out saying when they're upset.

My fiance is a nice guy -- he treats me with respect, treats most people with respect (unless they fuck with someone he cares about), loves animals, would give away the shirt off his back to a friend if they needed it, etc. But he will also tell me when he disagrees with me. He tells me when I'm acting like a bitch (and I tell him when he's being an ass).

I couldn't date someone who didn't have his own opinions or tell me when I'm wrong.

 

how about not true? i like my boys nice.

 

So true. Read my thread and you'll see why.

http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196520

Not only do I not hit my girlfriends, but I also am better looking then her boyfriend, more socially cooler and am in college trying to do something with my life.

 

nice guys finish last but with the right girl

stick with it

 

nice guys do finish last... you got to play dirty once in awhile... and that I still don't know how to do...

 

Holy fuck! The whole male gender is made up of only two different personality types!

 

i married a nice guy. it sucked. next guy's gotta be nice with a badassed edge.

 

lol. every time this comes up on my posts search, i think to myself, well, a nice guy would make sure she finishes first, now wouldn't he?

 

The question of niceness is irrelevant. Women like dominant men, and while some "nice" guys are, a much larger percentage of assholes are.

Yes, I know these are generalities. Let the flames fly.