New oppressive laws every american should know about

NDAA:On December 31, 2011, President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), codifying indefinite military detention without charge or trial into law for the first time in American history. The NDAA’s dangerous detention provisions would authorize the president — and all future presidents — to order the military to pick up and indefinitely imprison people captured anywhere in the world, far from any battlefield.

NDRP: It is an Executive Order appropriately called “National Defense Resources Preparedness (NDRP).” This allows members of Obama’s Cabinet to take resources such as livestock, water, fuel, farm equipment, vehicles, planes, boats, food and just about anything the government thinks it needs for “defense preparedness.” I am just skimming the surface here as there are many more details in the order. Many are calling this a setup for peacetime martial law. After reading the Executive Order, I don’t see how anyone could disagree with this statement.

Cispa:would allow companies and the government to bypass privacy protections and spy on your email traffic, comb through your text messages, filter your online content and even block access to popular websites.It would permit companies to give the government your Facebook data, Twitter history and cellphone contacts. It would also allow the government to search your email using the vaguest of justifications — and without any real legal oversight.It contains sweeping language that could be used as a blunt weapon to silence whistleblower websites like WikiLeaks and the news organizations that publish their revelations. It would have a chilling effect on our ability to speak freely online by stoking fears that the National Security Agency — the same agency that has conducted “warrantless wiretapping” online for years — could come knocking. It could lead all too easily to governmental and corporate attacks on our digital freedoms. And while there is a real need to protect vital national interests from cyber attacks, we can’t do it at the expense of our rights. And according to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, “The broad language around what constitutes a cyber-security threat leaves the door wide open for abuse,” stated the organisation.

 

NDRP.... This is nothing new, Obama didn't write it, Clinton did in '94. Obama singed a revision that changed some wording from FEMA to DHS in a few places because those particular duties were now being done by DHS.

Snoops on NDRP



Cispa.... As of today Obama is threatening a veto of the present bill because it's too invasive into personal privacy...



NDAA... we have already covered in a different thread.

 

He threatened to veto the NDAA too, I don't trust a damn word he says.

 

I realize you hate the guy, but seriously, do you blame him when it rains? Maybe shutting off Faux News would help, or quit drinking that damned tea... You are starting to sound like my neighbors and it's beginning to creep me out.

 

I DON'T watch fox news. If I did watch fox news, I sure as hell wouldn't be here. I dislike our government, period. I hated Bush a little less than Obama. But I HATE Obama with a passion. I believe we're silently slipping into a dictatorship and the people are allowing it. How do I have such conviction?

dic·ta·tor/ˈdiktātər/

Noun:

• A ruler with total power over a country, typically one who has obtained power by force.
• A person who tells people what to do in an autocratic way or who determines behavior in a particular sphere.

Right now obama can; Kill Americans without trial, steal our food and resources for any reason and, soon enough will be able to read or Emails and text messages!!

That is a Neo Dictatorship. We are in way over our heads, and if we don't put our foot down some serious shit is going to go down. (Martial law or Civil War.)

 

Hmm, me thinks you just lost a good bit of credibility with that statement.

You do realize that Bush and his cronies are one of the biggest reasons we are in the mess we are in and that Obama inherited a fucking mountain of grief that he had NOTHING to do with it's creation.

Maybe you don't realize that, after all you were just a wee lad for the majority of the time Bush was in office.

Yeah, you have lost credibility here because it is now very apparent that your main motivation for all of this bullshit is your irrational hatred of Obama.

So what flavor is the Dr. Ron Koolaid you been drinking anyway?

 

You're just one of those new age democrats that kiss obama's ass no matter what he does.. You THINK he's changing this country for the better, when really, we're much much worse of now. Yeah I hated bush, I mean I REALLY hated Bush. But I hate Obama more because he deceived the people with a shitload of rhetoric, that many stupid people (like you,) STILL believe even though he's done NOTHING to help the people.

 

NDAA: Yep, he fucked up

NDRP: Update to previous bill(s); nothing about abuse (conspiracy theorists jump on it like wildcats)

CISPA: The internet is in a frenzy trying to stop it from being passed, Obama is against it to gain some political reputation. He vetoes it to look like the "good guy" days before it reaches Congress.

Overall: He sucks, yeah we know.

As a side note: Ron Paul, i'm entitled to my kool aid

 

As usual, the Obama drones are out in full force defending their hero this time by claiming this new executive order issued by the glorious leader is no different than those signed by “every other” president in our history.
As in most cases of desperate people trying to gin up support for Barack, this claim is significantly false.


Yes, there have been other emergency preparedness executive orders issued in the past but most of them, even the ones signed by Nixon and Reagan, clearly defined the actionable events which would set them into motion as being during “national emergencies”.
The difference here, one difference that is, is it clearly calls for the implementation of this order during peacetime as well as times of a national emergency.

 

If that is directed at me then could you please quote ANY posts of mine in which I stated my political beliefs, my feelings about Obama or any such thing.
If you can show me ANYWHERE that I have made any posts that would indicate what you just wrote about my political affiliation, or anything even remotely supporting your very uninformed opinion of my political views, I sure would like to read it.

If you ACTUALLY READ anything I have posted you would see all I have ever done was question your fanatical devotion to Ron Paul and tried to point out the glaring holes in your rational as well as your very naive take on the whole fucking thing.
Your naive to think that the shit from Bush isn't what this country is still dealing with much more so than anything Obama has done.
Fuck, we are still dealing with repercussions from the fucking Nixon presidency. Shit don't go away overnight, nor can it be fixed in the space of 4 years.

Fool, your being blinded by your own irrational hatred of Obama.

(p.s. I have an I.Q. of 136, I think that's a couple a points higher than "stupid")

 

Let's not jump to conclusions. I see the guy Fawkes avatar, so i'm guessing you saw this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP5ixUslcMA"]Anonymous: NDRP - YouTube

Don't worry i'm not a drone. I'm awake, but i take human reason over everything. People we're claiming that Bush was going to institute Marshall law in his reign but that never happened, i doubt it will happen now.

 

I'm not doing this in support for Ron Paul. I'm doing this in support from resistance. We shouldn't take anymore government BS for another 4 years!!! I'm saying the federal Government WAY overstepped it's bounds, and we have to do something RIGHT NOW, and oppose the corrupt system. Obama,Bush,McCain,Goldman Sachs and every other industry who has kept us oppressed for the last 100 years (the federal reserve.) Our time is right now, because they can't kill an idea which is already imbedded in the minds of hundreds of thousands of people!

 

Sorry, I wasn't calling you a drone, I pasted that from a website. But the way I see it, it's already is happening. These are steps to override the constitution and strip us of our national sovereignty. I honestly feel like this is it! I've always considered myself a hippie, but with people who simply don't care about the state of this country, I might as well drop the movement all together. I guess I'm more of an activist and a patriot.
I have the spirit of 1776 in my soul and I take the Revolutionary war as a model of how we earned our freedom. Well that freedom is gone!!!
we have a slight advantage right now (the internet,) and he's even trying to take that away from us. So speak now or forever hold your alleged "peace"

 

This why you fail. You are trying to lay all this shit at the feet of one man. That is why I continue to comment that you are naive.
You have simply picked Obama as the scapegoat.
That's the easy, lazy way.
All this crap is much more complex and convoluted than how you seem to be perceiving it.
Actually the president probably has a hell of a lot less say and power than any of us know.

 

He's the figure head of a much more corrupt system, I know that. But he's allowing it, he decided he wanted to be the president, and the president always gets the heat! So why don't you stop calling me naive, because you don't even know me. I'm TRYING to be respectful to you. But you're doing the same thing with Bush. Would you prefer I say the Obama administration? Or the global elitist bankers? Think about it, it's all the same thing. Obama lied saying he would "work for the people," when in fact, he works for the greedy top 1%. As I said Goldman Sachs and others.

 

Yes, it would be better and more accurate if you said the Obama administration. It's not all the same.
Remember it's a corrupt system he inherited.

Let me ask you again, what makes you think that if Ron Paul is elected that it wouldn't be the same bullshit in a different package?

I really think you are giving the office of the president credit for having more real power than it actually does.

 

I support the US constitution and the declaration of independence. I support Ron Paul because he's the best in the election. But if not Ron Paul, I support OWS and other such groups. That are for the people, by the people. And the only ones standing up for our constitutional rights and basic human rights worldwide. I'm hoping the government gets scared of the people and returns our Liberty without any type of violence. But it has been said


"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."John Fitzgerald Kennedy

 

This...


I didn't vote for Obama either, I'm pointing out your irrational hate for one guy, when it's the whole system at fault. Don't call me a drone, and I'm far from stupid.

 

I support the Constitution! I don't support the system or the people in it. But suggesting my stance loses validity due to voting for someone is absurd. Ron Paul also believes in the constitution and that's why he has my support.

 

The problem is the system and that goes back to the US constitution.

To me the problem with that constitution is that it was NOT set up to serve the people, it was set up to serve the interests of the propertied classes, the landed gentry, the squire class or those above. Amongst that group there was a great mistrust of ‘the people’ which were often thought of as the uneducated ramble or mob.

Later things that did serve ‘the people’ were added on such as the extension of the voting rights but they had to be fought for they were not in place from the beginning. They were bolted on not integral (and so could possibly be unbolted; there are those on the right who’d be quite happy with a system where wealth could block or veto the popular vote).

But it is still a political system biased toward wealth. Now I and many others feel the problem with the US today is that wealth has gained too much power and influence but what surprises me is that so many on the right especially the right wing libertarians like Ron Paul want to vastly increase the power of wealth to the detriment of everyone else.