On the 13th of May I left Cardiff to go on an emotional trip. I was chosen as one of two students within my college to participate in a government funded charity to highlight the atrocities of the Holocaust and the affect racism has on a whole country, a whole society, and a whole world. Needless to say, the trip was extremely thought-provoking. Before the trip I couldn't fully understand or contemplate a number such as 11 million -- it was merely a number that was significant only on the basis of fact, and not emotion -- nor could I understand the magnitude of the Holocaust itself. When I arrived in Auschwitz I still couldn't understand it, not on factual understanding but on experience. It would be impossible for my to fully grasp the emotional backlashes of such a time and experience, because I wasn't the one who experienced it in the first place. I left the camp feeling incredibly confused and extremely guilty. I had ongoing thoughts as to how I should be feeling: 'should I feel remorsful?', 'have I no compassion?', and strangly enough 'did so many truly die here?' I must admit that I even had doubts of the Holocaust itself after leaving, it was such a massive blow to me that I was finding hard to even contemplate the thought. People seem to think that genocide is something that happens in backwater countries; that it occured only in medieval times during the crusades. This happened on our very doorsteps, in the middle of Christian Europe and within only two generations of most of our lives, and now, as time grows weary so does the survivors able to tell their stories. The new generation has an obligation to keep this dying flame alive so as to prevent further atrocities for as long as people are willing to listen; because it's only the people who listen that can prevent this as much as the people who are telling the stories. These are the extreme consequences when people remain idle to prejudice and racism: Auschwitz 2008 [Please hold mouse over the photo notes to view full text.]
History ALWAYS repeats itself where brutality is concerned. I don't jump in the same boat as everyone else however. I don't blame the Nazis for the Holocaust. I blame the people themselves for allowing it to get started to begin with. Responsibility starts in your own yard first. Modern day Nazis walk among us. Zionists, and their control over the US military hardly raises an eyebrow. Here we go again... x
I think it's hard not to be led by propaganda, and the people of Germany were easily led by Goebbels after so many troubles they faced after WWI and the Weimar Republic. It was either the Nazis or the Communist; and the Nazis got there first. I'm sure you, along with the majority of society, would've just as easily been led by the nose to support the Nazis in their totalitarian government. If you were to resist what could you possibly had done?
They had help from inside. The zionists served up many of their own Jewish kinfolk to the Nazis. Now a segment of the Jewish population are the new Nazis. Zionists. And their aim is the same. Racial purity. A homeland based on that purity. And world domination. Ancient formula for stirring things up. x
I never thought I'd be alive to see this day ... Xexon, an antagonist. What happened to the "I'm better than you because I'm God" Xexon? Is this perhaps a Pod Person posing as Xexon? HTML:
how interesting that this thread got revived. yet my responses on here got deleted. i was under the impression that this thread was supposed to come to an end. isn't censorship lovely? i for one am certain had it really been the nazis intent to wipe out the entirity of european jewery they would have done a better job of doing so. germans are known far and wide for their efficiency and ingenuity. they also wouldn't have have allowed men with jewish ancestry to serve in the waffen ss had it been their intent to wipe out european jewry as a whole. what would be the point of a haircut if you're going to get gassed within the hour? as long as world history is one sided, me and countless others will continue asking questions. especially when it's illegal in 19 countries to question a historical event. you can delete my posts all you want, but it won't stop people from asking questions. like why are there only laws against publicly questioning the holocaust? yet there are no laws against taking a revisionist approach to any other period or moment in history. what makes the holocaust so special that there is great illegality in many countries about questioning the official story?
being in berlin has drastically opened my eyes i went on a tour of sites around town yesterday involving the third riech i don't think i could handle visiting a concentration camp, they offered tours of it but i just don't think i could handle it
Censorship?..No one has deleted your posts...They're here: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=305608 Perhaps you should take more notice of your own posts?
http://judicial-inc.biz/paage_1.jpg http://judicial-inc.biz/paarrge_2.jpg international redcross concluded only 271,301 had died in these camps. not six million, let alone eleven million. they certainly never reported seeing or hearing about any gas chambers being used to kill people.
okay, i stand corrtected about the suspicions of censorship of my post. so why was it so necessary to basicly make a new thread with the same exact title and use an identical first post?
http://www.geocities.com/skitserver/arolsen.pdf You should really look more into your 'evidence', because the majority of the stuff you've come up with have major holes and carry no water.
Because if anything, this thread is more relevent to the Jewish members of this forum. I posted this thread on many different categories of this forum, and even asked Skip for permission, according the relevence and due to the significance of it.
What?...No. Don't be so stupid. What's wrong with some of you people? I didn't start any of these threads as a time to debate whether the Holocaust existed or an quick way to pass completely stupid remarks like yours. I did them as a mark of respect and to show other people my own experiences of visiting the camp. Some people just need to keep their mouth shut, step back and think for a while.
You take life to seriously, If you didnt want people posting smart ass remarks in relation to your own i have a suggestion. Get a diary and stop making posts on the internet.
Listen, nobody rallies harder on this forum against zionism than I do. However even I have sensitivity towards how people feel about their dead. Whatever the exact numbers ever come out to be is not important. These camps remind ALL of us the barbarity that can come out of nowhere and consume a world. Let the living cry for their dead. Teach them how it came to the point it did. Teach the lesson for as long as you can, so that history does not repeat itself. The world is once again under the sway of something that threatens the times as we know it. The old lessons have died with the generation that knew them. The stage is set up once again for a hard lesson to be learned. That would worry most people. The only reason it hasn't is the denial that it's anybody's fault. The truth is an uncomfortable one. x
try plugging the hole of the lack of eleven million bodies. the redcross records indicate the total amount of bodies found. so where'd the other bodies go? where did their bones disappear to? if they carry no water, why are you avoiding addressing them? even deborah lipstadt admits that the stories about bars of soap and lampshades are BS.
some people just need to look at multiple sources and not always ones that have the same sort of take or slant on things. of course you didn't start this to debate anything. you started it to help further indocrinate people about a historical event that scientific and documental evidence suggest happened differently than mainstream history suggests. by being so one sided and calling yourself a history student. you blacken the collective eyes of world history. that link you provided doesn't even go into how the redcross toll death records have been misused. Though the numbers in the letter/the specification have proved to be actually correct then, it has to be borne in mind that this does not allow of any conclusion as to the factual number of deaths having occurred under the tyranny from 1933-1945, since 1. a certification can only be made if there is proof of death; 2. many records were destroyed at the time; 3. deaths in the ghettos are not certified by the Special Registry Office; "a certification can only be made if there is proof of death." so why even make the suggestion that extra amounts of people died if there's no proof of these extra millions of deaths?
are you even jewish? if not, why are you posting here if it's of most relevence to jewish forum members?