My ffiiiiirrrrsssttt bad trip; Feeattturing 20x Salvia!

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by BrootalHankie, Dec 18, 2010.

  1. BrootalHankie

    BrootalHankie Member

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    So I'm fifteen, and im a bit of a hippie
    so I have tried a few different psychedelics;
    LSD, Mushrooms, Mescaline, and DXM.
    Most of which, courtesy of my boyfriend Metalguitarist420.
    Though I am quite open-minded about trying new things,
    I am also extremely careful about what
    brain-altering drugs i let into my system.
    But i suppose some bad trips are just plain inevitable.

    Well anywho,
    one afternoon I was kickin' it with my boyfriend,
    and he proposed that we fill our lungs
    with some 20x Salvia he had held onto.
    Having heard a few things about Salvia,
    I was nervous-which was new, considering im always
    so very excited about tripping
    -but not nervous enough to let it damper my curiosity.
    So we took a walk to the pretty little pasture
    outside of my house and sat at the picnic table
    next to the creek.
    We figured a calm, pleasant environment
    would contribute to a peaceful mind,
    and perhaps a better trip.

    So my boyfriend decided I should go first,
    considering it would be my first time
    and he wanted to be in the right
    state of mind in case I freaked out.
    I thought that made sense,
    though, I was really nervous about it.
    So he loaded one of his makeshift can pipes
    with his 20x Salvia and stood in front of me
    and watched as I breathed a hit of
    the harsh smoke deep into my lungs..
    We waited while I held it in..
    I heard him say "Is anything happening yet?"
    and I said "No.".

    Immediately after replying to that question,
    my boyfriend changed from human to what looked like
    an anime cartoon; all of the woods behind him
    looking a bit like static.
    I felt myself smile,
    but when I tried to tell him "It's working now..",
    my body felt too cold to move my mouth;
    he told me later I mumbled something unsuccessfully.
    I turned my head, facing the woods and the creek..
    The sun made the sky a reddish color..

    Although, I couldn't see any of this;
    the colors formed into huge shiny blocks.
    All of a sudden, I felt myself underneath
    a nervous pressure; I didn't know where I was.
    I couldn't see my boyfriend anymore;
    I was no longer aware I was with him.
    I felt close to a panic attack,
    and I started laughing hysterically;
    i tried to stop and I just couldn't.
    I was scantily mindful of an old man
    standing about ten feet from me,
    leaning against his podium;
    speaking to me in a voice
    that only a game show host would use.

    Alright, so deep inside my mind
    -past the part of me that was laughing hysterically,
    underneath a panic attack-
    I decided I could not handle being on a game show anymore;
    I was terrified. I swung my body to turn to my boyfriend
    -whom I suddenly knew existed once again-
    and through ears that were not mine, i hear him say
    "Are you having a good time, babe?",
    and I can almost see him smiling.

    And out of nowhere,
    as if I hadn't just been in another universe,
    I breathed in a ragged cold breath,
    and I could see everything;
    it was too bright.
    My equilibrium felt completely off..
    My stomach twisted with a dense nausea.
    I let myself answer
    "No. Not at all.".
    I felt so on edge,
    I could feel myself becoming paranoid.
    My boyfriend looked sort of worried,
    he touched my shoulder and said
    "Oh no, babe. Don't have a bad trip.."

    I started thinking
    -feeling increasingly more disoriented and sick-
    that I shouldn't be feeling this way.
    It shouldn't have sent me into such a surreal panic
    and I shouldn't be so sick.
    Somewhere in my mind,
    I knew it would be over soon;
    but in the moment I was completely certain
    my body must have had a reaction
    to the strange substance,
    and i was brain damaged.

    So in this moment,
    I started mumbling all kinds of worry to my boyfriend.
    Who, worriedly, started suggesting I lay down;
    apologizing between assuring words.
    He checked his phone and told me
    it had been about twenty minutes,
    -it felt like five hours-
    and that Id feel better sooner than I thought.
    He gave me his jacket though it was freezing,
    and played my favorite song of his to me until i felt better.

    I still don't really understand why I got so sick,
    but I suppose I shouldn't have expected salvia to be kind to me.
    And I was rather nervous to begin with.

    Haha,
    thought I'd share my strange experience with Salvia.
    :2thumbsup:

    Peace and junk and stuff and things.
    <3, BrootalHankie.
     
  2. metalguitarist420

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    I'm sorry you had a bad trip babe. I'm glad I was there to try to help you through it though.
     
  3. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    yeah, salvia is VERY intense. i've also had a bit of experience with psychedelics, but salvia was the only thing to take me completely out of my environment. i was only gone for about 6 minutes or so, but it felt like the end of my life as i knew it. that was actually the 3rd time i tried it though. first two times were 7 years ago, and i didn't "breakthrough."

    i almost feel like salvia affected me more intensely than it did you. not to have a contest. just as far as sensory information. i could not see or hear my friend at all until i started to come down. also i could not utter a single understandable word (just lots of loud mumbling and screaming). my friend told me i wasn't laughing. i wouldn't know that i was spinning in circles, and standing up if it wasn't for my friend watching me.

    also, a can pipe?! c'mon metalguitarist.
     
  4. BrootalHankie

    BrootalHankie Member

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    Yeah, it was much more intense than all of the other trips i've been on so far.
    The entire time, I felt my body jerking back and forth-like I was rocking back and forth really rapidly and rough- but my boyfriend says I didnt move too much. Hahaha.
    I have a weak stomach, and I guess all the stress made me sick; i was gagging and stuff.
    I almost puked. It was pretty awful.

    I don't know if im going to mess with Salvia anymore; its pretty harsh.

    My cousin told me about doing 60x with his friends; thinking it was one of those lame marijuana substitutes. He said he was inside of his mind, and his personality had split into three parts; having a roman chariot fight.
    Its some crazy junk.
     
  5. guerillabedlam

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    I like your writing style and that's unfortunate that it was such a difficult trip for you. There is really not anything else like it, that first time having reality ripped right away from you is quite disconcerting, ive experienced a loss of self on LSD and shrooms but I never experienced the level of disengration of reality that happens on salvia.
     
  6. G0dm4ch1n3

    G0dm4ch1n3 Senior Member

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  7. guerillabedlam

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    feels good maaaaan
     
  8. BrootalHankie

    BrootalHankie Member

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    Although I am very reluctant to smoke
    anymore salvia, It really irks me that
    I was unable to have a better trip.
    My boyfriend has done Salvia several
    times and found that 5x is a lot easier
    to handle.
    I think its a little too harsh for me though.

    Thanks for all the feedback. ;)
     
  9. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    i forgot to mention this.

    it read almost like a poem. i was getting reminded a bit of my own salvia breakthrough and getting kinda scared. at a particular scary part i moved my hand and knocked over my lighter. i thought i had just knocked my bong over and jumped!
     
  10. BrootalHankie

    BrootalHankie Member

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    I'm glad it was just your lighter. Bong water is raunchy. Hahaha.

    But thank you so much for commenting on my writing style.
    I am actually a poet in my free time, and I have tried some
    short stories as well.. So being a writer, it makes me feel awesome
    to get positive reactions.

    Just didn't think anyone would say anything. Haha. :)
     
  11. SweetBlasphemy

    SweetBlasphemy Senior Member

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    That happened to me, too... as I started to reintegrate and understand that I had actually ingested a drug a few minutes ago (a notion that had for the first time, completely gone out the window during the trip), I thought for sure I was stuck in that halfway state and that I had "poisoned" myself by smoking "incense." It's not at all like when you're bugging out on something else, you can usually take a few deep breaths and remind yourself you're dosed and you'll return to normal in a few hours - Salvia is just SO convincing and somehow realer than real. It also took me a few minutes afterward to convince myself it was actually Salvia I had smoked since the breakthrough was NOTHING like the effects I got the first time I tried it about 8 years ago. I was running around yelling, That's not Salvia, don't touch that shit! Later I would come to learn that was definitely Salvia. Never in my wildest dreams had I expected that from something that just a few years ago simply made me feel heavy and wiggly and laugh hysterically for 10 minutes...
     
  12. the tourist

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    i never feel like i was "poisoned". i know that i smoked salvia, but this just loses importance when reality and myself start to fall apart. like blasphemy said, the experience feels realer than reality and everything that i done in my life so far looks like a cheap illusion that i was tricked into, including the bit where i smoked salvia. in every breakthrough that i had, i was convinced that i was experiencing something real, not a delirium of any sort. this is what makes it so frightening.
     
  13. RooRshack

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    If you want a positive experiance, you should probably be taking salvia in much smaller doses or more slowly, you might consider chewing it or making a water infusion (things I always wanted to try, but that you really need a healthy plant or a few to do without going broke) Salvia has great potential to rip reality apart at high doses, but that's about all it does, because reality is too torn apart to feel any positive emotions, because those emotions where a part of what got torn apart....

    Also, you won't like this, but you should wait a while.... I'd just started smoking weed at your age, and while at the time I wanted all sorts of psychedelics, now I'm glad that I couldn't get them yet. I'm not saying don't take drugs, I'm saying show some moderation and respect for your developing brain/mind, you've only got one (of each).

    Also, frankly.... When I first took 20x, I was amazed at how soft people are... It rips things apart, but it's handleable, I don't think I ever forgot that I had taken salvia, even when I went and got 40x. But even though I could get more "fucked up", I feel like I've taken all salvia has to give at high doses, though I haven't done it in a while I'm more interested in pushing the boundaries with low doses and what my mind can do on it's own. (If it makes any difference to anyone, salvia was the first psychedelic I took, aside from weed and DXM, and the only traditional style one I've taken and had a strong vivid experiance off of is DOB)

    Realllllly, you're young. Take drugs every now and then, but concentrate on getting high on life. But if you're young and taking psychedelics, I think there's a very good possibility that salvia is better for you than the traditionals, because instead of changing reality it creates a different one. Less possability of splash over or flashbacks, etc.


    Sorry, I realize this is an illegible rant. I tend to do that.
     
  14. guerillabedlam

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    Taking it with MDMA fixes this problem, its insanely beautiful. Its the best drug combo I've ever done.
     
  15. RooRshack

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    How does the body load work out with MDMA? (I've never had legit MDMA, still trying, heard it's floating around here at the moment actully)

    I wouldn't want the salvia body load increased, parts of it (extreme sensetivity) could be nice in some ways with other drugs, but I bloody HATE "salvia gravity", it's one of the reasons I basically gave up going farther with salvia, because for a few seconds of trip, I'd have to endure an hour of nasty feeling body buzz.
     
  16. guerillabedlam

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    I felt pretty much weightless on the trip and then the 20 mins or so afterwards where you are still definitely altered but back in reality its extremely euphoric. Like I'll do a mini meditation for that 20 minutes and its very blissful state, I felt like I was floating 3 feet above my bed last time on the comedown, not in a scary way at all more like how monks are depicted or dhalsim in street fighter lol.
     
  17. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    Your boyfriend mindfucked you.
     
  18. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    Try salvia and nitrous then.
     
  19. BrootalHankie

    BrootalHankie Member

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    I do understand where your coming from,
    and I am aware that mind altering drugs
    can have an effect on the young and influential.
    I actually just started experimenting with psychedelics last year,
    just seeing what else there was to see.
    But like I've said, I'm very careful about what I let into my system.
    I was extremely nervous about even trying Salvia..
    Which come to think of,
    probably caused me to have such a negative reaction
    regardless of the pretty scenery.

    But there is no need to apologize for the "eligible rant"
    I loved to hear what anyone has to say about
    my experience. I like to get several ways to look at things. :)
     
  20. BrootalHankie

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    Oh my, meditation while tripping.
    Certainly sounds like a match made in heaven.
    So at the risk of sounding like the fifteen-year-old I am,
    what is MDMA, exactly?
    Because i'll keep the name in mind in case I want to try
    Salvia again. ;)
     

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