Mushroom Dose Advice

So last night I took around 2 grams of dried cubensis, The trip was nice and I ended up seeing some distorted faces at my peek and maybe some more defined lights but nothing mind blowing. It was mostly me getting caught in mind loops over and over again then realizing a minute later.

I have around 35 grams of FRESH Cubensis and was wondering if it would be worth attempting to dose again tonight or would my tolerance already be stacked to the point of needing a lot.

 

Wait a few days, at least.

About your dose... take OVER 9000!

 

well first of all 35grams of wet mushrooms really isent that much. ive discoverd i needed almost 60 grams of fresh mushrooms. just like your body, fresh mushrooms are about 80% water weight. it would be a complete waste.

why do you feel the urge to do that experiance again so fast? have you even taken any lessons from your trip last night.

you are a pond, and every time you trip its like throwing a rock into the pond. last night you threw a rock in the pond and there is a ripple, and that ripple hasent settled. but you are all ready wanting to make another ripple in your pond, before you even take value from the first ripple you made.

your wasting them.

your abusing them, and what they are for. your using them to get high - you want things to look trippy and cool. oh pretty lights so shiny...

you should be taking mushrooms as a ritual of insight, for enlightenment and to learn. to explore your inner-conscious and to create yourself, to learn, to grow, to experience. your not giving yourself any time to learn. all your doing is looking for a buzz.

just stop.
and breath.

your knowledge of mushrooms is weak and you should continue learning about mushrooms, the chemical compound, the history, the uses. you seem to lack knowledge in it, stop asking us - start learning for yourself.

do you even know what a tryptamine is? you should learn. educate yourself. about dosage, about prep work, about tricks of the trade. you should educate yourself to the point in which you could grow them - then i suggest you do grow them.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/

educate yourself. grow. learn. experience

tip: eat oranges with your mushrooms, place the mush under your tongue. there is a vein under your tongue that runs up to your brain, helps the trip come on quicker. the acids from the oranges will help break it down faster and absorb it into your body faster, making the trip come on faster and smoother on your body. an old trick an old man showed me. nothing beats the wisdom of elders

 

I would be eating the same amount wet as the average dose dry, I am assuming fresh is more potent because they tend to lose some potency through drying.

 

It would be wasting them for him to take them so soon.

But your holier-than-thou attitude bothers me.

I like spiritual, inward looking, deep experiances. And I also like things to look flashy an trippy. And I will keep liking both. There's nothing wrong with why he wants to trip, visuals are great fun and a fine reason to take psychedelics.

There is no "right" or wrong way or reason, so long as you survive unharmed.

 

I want to experience it again because I didn't exactly have a life changing experience and I don't believe I was given a full on trip. Sure they worked and there was some mild effects but nothing that impaired me greatly and I found myself functioning quiet normally for the majority of the trip with no eye dilation or problems sleeping.

If you do a drug and have very minimal effects are you going to call that an entire experience? Thats like getting on a roller coaster then getting off while going up the hill and telling everyone it was an awesome roller coaster.

I don't understand why your going on the assumption that I know nothing about what I am doing, I simply asked if it would be worth attempting to re-dose, at least I have the knowledge of knowing that the tolerance for tryptamines build and drop fast.

 

they only will loose potentcy if you dry them with heat. if you air dry them they will be fine. just dont use heat. heat breaks it down.

 

i suppose i was more focused on the fact that you tripped last night, and you where all ready looking to do it again tonight, but it makes sense if you dident go through a full experience. the only reason i was questioning your knowledge was because i felt like the question was a tad bit silly? but it makes sense now that you clarify that you dident go through a full blown experience.

anyone who goes through a full mushrooms experience and is looking to do it again the next day, is just silly.

like anyone who has been on a full blown mushroom trip, and thinks about doing it again the next day, its just seems a bit funny. anyone who has done mushrooms could understand what im talking about, it seemed silly.and thats how i felt on this question.

but if you really dident pull anything out of it then a redose would be fine in a few days.

I mean, there is no right or wrong to tripping, mushrooms come from a time before right and wrong where created. its just, i couldent imagine undergoing two full blown mushroom trips in 2 days in a row. haha it seems like it would be a wasted experience.

but good luck on your next trip man.

 

Psilocybin breaks down into psilocin inside the body and like most tryptamines works by binding to the serotonin receptors in your brain causing a cascade effect resulting in numerous neurotransmitters to kick into action.

You have to give your serotonin receptors and all the downstream functions time to recoup so dosing in short intervals results in a less then ideal effect.

Dosing no more then once a week in order to give your noggin a rest would be my recommendation.

Also make sure that you consume the mushrooms on a empty stomach (do not eat any solid foods for 6 hours prior to consuming them) and grind the mushrooms into a find powder before ingesting them (one of my methods was to grind them into a fine powder and mix the powder with just enough peanut butter to bind it together.... roll dose into 8 small balls and wash them down one by one with warm water). Having the mushrooms a fine powder consistency will mean that they digest very quickly so all the psilocin hits your serotonin receptors fast and loose like some kind of mystical freight train.

 

so much bad information.

35g of fresh msuhrooms is a fine dose, air drying will reduce potency as the psilocin degrades on contact with oxygen (it goes blue, thus the "bruising").Actually it degrades no matter what, that OH group is a bitch, but with heat doesn't break it down if appied correctly, it's oxygen and certain moistures that does it, unless yr vaping it which takes way past 150deg C. But don't take them, your tolerance will be up for at least 3-4 days, wait a week.

Psylocybin even more stable, baeocystin fine too.

Shrooms have cross tolerance to lots of other drugs, so stay clean of everything bfore taking them. have fun, don't listen to google experts who haven't a clue what they're talking about, do what feels right to you (with some basic knowledge about tolerance and waiting just to prevent wasting shrooms)

 

http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator

just go to the right place, this topic has been talked about a million times before.

 

honestly based off past experiences. for the what your looking for. i did 9 grams of dried fungus after allman brothers in 2008, i watched the sky spin into the ground. is that the type of experience your looking for? go with 9 grams, and watch yourself die and be reborn. i would recommended it to everyone at least once. take 9grams of dried shrooms. its all about the experience. let them babys dry, it will feel better for your tummy.

or just get some 4-aco-dmt

 

Funny... you're one of two or three people who I've seen say that that kind of dose was NOT very painful and scary, in no sort of good or spiritual way. (I don't do shroomery, so I don't see THAT much, but...)

Most reports I've seen for generic pscilicybin shrooms in higher doses say that much above 5-6 grams results in utter reasonless terror and extreme physical distress, without anything gained. Like being violently murdered for 5 hours

Then, I've never had higher than ONE gram of shrooms, while I was very stoned, and had very minimal results...

 

I have found it to be very pleasant, my highest doses every were 7.5-8 grams. It could be overwhelming if your not prepared = being scared.

 

Def don't listen to this asshole.... 9 grams would be entirely overwhelming especially if it was your second trip on mushrooms.


Start small and work your way up...... if 3.5 grams didn't do it for you then try 4.5 grams... then 5.5.... so on and so forth.


The highest dose I have ever done is 6 grams and it was a ridiculous experience.

 

do you honostly think watching the sky spin with the earth right infront of me was not terrifiying? its was ridiclous, and very intense, but i submitted to the mushrooms. im highly experianced with psychedelics and a 9gram mushroom trip up to date is my highest most extream trip, and inless you totally submissive to the drug you are going to freak out and have a bad trip, be ready to give let go of the person you are, and erase your ego, i would suggest you dont do this inless you are ready for an entire death and rebirth of yourself.

9grams of mushrooms is very intense, skary, but out of all the darkness, you will pull more light. the key thing to always remember, is it will always end, and its all within. i have never seen visuals like i did that night. at a point i was unable to move, with my time in between my breaths almost 10 seconds apart, i thought i was near death. then i realized it wasent my body that was dieing. it was my ego, and with the death of my ego, i was reborn.

the 9gram mushroom trip was a very intense, beautiful experience. you must be prepaired, and you must be submissive, and attempt to resistance will only hurt you.

also -

im 6'5
260 pounds.

body weight and per portion also comes into play with mushrooms, as well as the first basic rule of tripping is know your own chemistry and what you can handle.

 

thats the point of everybody at least trying to experiance it one time, i dident tell this fella to go off and do that, i was just telling him my experiance with my most intense shroom trip, and if he was interested in the sky and the earth twirling into one, 9 grams of shrooms is the way to go.

isent this common sense for any drug user? everyone has different body chemistry. what my girl gets off 2grams i dont get off till 4grams. shes 5'2 120 im 6'5 260 -

the first rule of tripping is know your own chemistry.

but dont listen to this asshole

 

Doesn't sound that scary to me... Sounds like what happens on drugs. The only part that is scary is that I'm diabetic and it's not safe to be incapicated for that long without the ability to deal with blood sugar problems as they can arise, especially on drugs that can potentially alter the dynamics of blood surar control.

I haven't heard anything about scary visuals, I and most people I know like intense visuals.... I'm talking about physical pain, as though your whole body is being ripped apart. The descriptions I've heard for high dose shrooms are similar to the cruciatis curse from harry potter... Only for hours on end. And then it wears off below that threshold, and it becomes perfectly fine and still fun even. While there seems to be no physical danger other than pain, it seems that in overdose your brain responds by just saying "fuuuuuck youuuu" and making everything hurt.

Again, never had it, but this is what I've seen and heard described by a decent number of people.

 

Well if people think 35 fresh is to little I have as much as I need to get to any level. I want something thats gonna be enlightening and really get deep into myself I don't just want some pretty colors.

I think I learned a lot from the 2 grams as I respected the trip and allowed it to do what it wanted without me trying to hold it back so I guess it wasn't an entire waste.

Thanks for the feedback everyone! Was very helpful!

 

Don't be ashamed to just want to trip. Psychedelics change the way you see things, and well... we see the world with our eyes. Visuals are a very good scale to see how affected you are by a psychedelic, on most psychedelics they roughly correlate to the mental aspect of things. At least in my experiance.