MDMA=Deforestation

Back in december I was caught tripping. Since that time I have been struggling with the concept of going sober.

Now I have a new reason to try and clean up.
MDMA (the main ingredient in ecstasy) is extracted from an oil which comes from a rare tree in Cambodia. This tree, being so rare, is highly sought after by drug peddlers and is in danger of becoming extinct.
As people harvest this tree they clear acres of fragile rainforest, home to numerous endangered species. This drug trade also fuels violence between rival drug producers, the local government, and conservationists, as well as pollutes local water sources with deadly carcinogenic bi-products from the production of this oil.
The oil, after being harvested from the shredded remains of these trees, is then smuggled to countries like Holland, where manufacturing MDMA really isn't treated as a "major" crime like it would be in the United States, Canada, or the UK.

I urge all ravers who support environmentalism to give up MDMA as a means of trying to save the largest in tact rainforest in all of Southeast Asia. The Earth is our Mother, and we have only ONE.
The trees used to make this oil are several hundred years old on average. They have survived for centuries, only to be destroyed for the sake of a "good party"... What the fuck!?
I realize this feels like a total nut-shot to many people out there. It made me pretty fucking sad to find this out too.
I guess if you don't like this thread, don't reply to it. Most ravers and hippies I know would be disgusted to see an entire forest destroyed for something so petty. Others like us have the right to know.
-Love TankGirl
PS: I know MDMA can be synthesized in a lab, but in my mind, buying a pill isn't worth the potential risk of contributing to something so horrific.

I am never rolling again!

 

I think most of the MDMA that is used in drugs as xtc has been chemically synthesized for years already. No harm done to those trees at all with that stuff.

 

Switch to dat 5-meo-mipt!

 

I appreciate the thread but considering how rare MDMA is for me Im assuming it does little to no damage.

Sorry not giving MDMA up.

 

Its still going on. Just watched an indi-doc about it last night that was shot months ago. Film-makers traveled all over Cambodia with conservation officers, catching producers in the act of clear-cutting and finding streams almost void of life due to the dumping of bi-products.
I love how when someone is trying to say something important about the environment, everyone else tries to think of reasons to say "Well its not THAT bad... See?"
Personally, I make no excuses for my behavior.

 

I just find it hard to believe, wouldn't it also be cheaper to just chemically synthesize it.

 

You do realize the same stuff was and possibly is in some perfumes right? Should everyone stop using those perfume?

 

I don't use it, personally.
And in cambodia it is illegal to harvest these trees, so I guess people should find something different to cover up how much they smell.

 

Well in the U.S. Its illegal to harvest marijuana 'trees' and that doesn't seem to be stopping people.

If this issue is enough for you to quit using ecstasy then I'm glad for you and its also good that you brought it to people's attention but I personally feel MDMA has amazing medicinal potential and is also one of the best psychoactive drugs there is.

 

And besides: it's most likely not coming from a tree

 

I have said it many times. But I'll say it again...
Fuck this modern shit !!!

Smoke only home grown weed
Do mushrooms
And if you need to travel in time, use LSD.

I dumpster dive and found an old 8 trak player. At my local value village store I found Pink Floyd, Blue Oyster Cult and Janis Joplin. Nothing better than going on a voyage in time and letting LSD do the driving.

So everyone can keep their extasy. It's a shit drug.

 

^ecstasy was around before LSD

 

MDMA was first synthesized in 1912.. The same year the Titanic sank.. OMGZ CONSPIRACY... :leaving:

 

Ecstasy CAN be shitty, but MDMA is pretty good.

 

I'm all for saving the environment, but the amount of sass oil required to make MDMA is REALLY REALLY small, sure in mass scale it takes away 1-2 trees every 500,000 doses of MDMA made (lol... this is just a guess but I do know the amount of oil used per dose is RIDICULOUSLY small) but maybe we should worry about about the aroma therapists who use the amount of oil that a chemist uses for a few hundred thousand doses every week. Not to mention the perfume that you guys spoke of.

The only thing I really took from this was "the oil is then exported to holland where manufacturing MDMA isnt looked at as a serious crime..." <<< thanks for the Protip. I now know where I wish to move once I have acquired the funds.

 

on a large scale [the scale that pill pressers need] it would be MUCH cheaper go a route avoiding safrole [which is expensive].

 

should we stop eating peppers too?

 

You don't even need a lab to synthesize mdma nowadays, its just another amphetamine that can be done in good ole pickle jars, chemicals from your local stores, & a lil know how

P.S. I agree with the using acid instead, but shit when making that holy shit the ergot is soo much more deadly then anything your gonna synthesize here....

 

Sass oil is 80-90% safrole. You add an amine to that to get MDMA, which adds weight to the molecule. Soooo, very roughly I'd say a gram of sassafrass oil would yield about a gram of MDMA. Any aroma therapist who goes through a few hundred kilos of sassy a week is gonna get a visit from the DEA.

 

shut up. who cares about some fucking trees. yeah i saw that documentary too and it was awesome. i felt bad when the government burned and broke the labs. i say keep cuttin down the trees and keep makin ecstasyy yeahh.
dont worry, you wont run out of oxygen, theres enuff trees. i bet theres one rite outside your house rite now. or are they cutting it down? lol
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