Lotus Flower

Discussion in 'Psychedelics' started by Black_Lotus, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. Black_Lotus

    Black_Lotus Member

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    I've always been fascinated by the lotus flower, hence the name "Black Lotus" I think i just read somewhere you can get high off of it!?

    Some sort of tea or just smoking it.
    Who knows about it? What's it like?
     
  2. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    I tried blue lotus extract once, which was a liquid and it may have slightly chilled me out but very well may have been placebo.

    Here is an interesting documentary on it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6v5pIQeM5o"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6v5pIQeM5o
     
  3. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    That's blue lilly, not lotus, but I'm sure that is what BL is thinking of.
    Wasn't Black Lotus the stuff they ate in Conan the Barbarian that got them all wasted?
     
  4. Black_Lotus

    Black_Lotus Member

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    That egyptian spin was interesting! sounds like strange stuff, they may as well just legalize drugs. People are gonna find a way to get high no matter what, so why don't they just regulate it and make money off of it? It'd benefit most everyone...
     
  5. Black_Lotus

    Black_Lotus Member

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    Idk man, it's a named I've liked for awhile, looked it up and it looks REALLY cool. my favorite flower i think. And yeah I think blue lilly is what I was thinking of. I just read it somewhere just now... after searching for heavenly blue morning glory seeds.
     
  6. guerillabedlam

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    It's the same thing Noxious...
     
  7. ChrisFromScotland

    ChrisFromScotland Lang may yer lum reek

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    yeh it grows on water, dunno if the lilly is part of the flower or another plant altogether, anyone know ?

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  8. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    No they aren't...
    http://www.entheology.org/edoto/anmviewer.asp?a=65
    an explanation in regards to the types talked about here.


    The Blue lily, most often used as an ornamental.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agapanthus_praecox
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    The Blue Lotus used as an intoxicant;
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nymphaea_caerulea

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    Confusion comes from the fact that the names Blue Lily and Blue Lotus are used interchangeably for the Nymphae caerulea, but botanically it's Blue Lotus.
    So it is easy to get them confused especially considering every friggin place on the web offering Blue Lotus makes the same error.
    It also depends on the region as to what it is commonly called.
    Don't believe me, Google it.
     
  9. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    I've used large quantities in it in tea, and I assure you it does absolutely nothing. At least, nothing worth the effort of drinking that vile tasting stuff.
     
  10. Black_Lotus

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    ^^If it's anything like Morning Glory, hot water would destroy the effect. Does lotus/lilly/whatever were calling it- have LSA? If so that's why the tea didn't do anything
     
  11. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    No, not even close

    From the wiki link I provided above;
    In modern culture, blue lotus flowers are used to make various concoctions including blue lotus tea, wine and martinis. Recipes for such drinks involve steeping or soaking the petals, about 10–20 grams for up to three weeks. Blue lotus 'tea' is prepared by boiling the entire flowers for 10–20 minutes.
    Recent studies have shown Nymphaea caerulea to have mild psycho-active properties. It may have been used as a sacrament in ancient Egypt and certain ancient South American cultures. Eating Blue Lotus can act as a mild sedative. Nymphaea caerulea is distantly related to, and possesses similar activity to Nelumbo nucifera, the Sacred Lotus. Both Nymphaea caerulea and Nelumbo nucifera contain the alkaloids nuciferine and aporphine.[3] The mildly sedating effects of Nymphaea caerulea makes it a likely candidate (among several) for the lotus plant eaten by the mythical Lotophagi in Homer's Odyssey.

    I thought you researched stuff better than that.
     
  12. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    You are extremely observant there, read the title.

    This is the first sentence to that link.
    Nymphaea caerulea, also known as the Blue Egyptian water lily or sacred blue lily, is a water-lily in the genus Nymphaea.
     
  13. Black_Lotus

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    I usually do haha. But I kind of go crazy research on one topic. I'll probably come back to this later

    Have you tried the lotus flower noxious?
     
  14. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    You aren't very observant, are you?

    Nymphaea caerulea has light blue flowers. Other similar varieties have purple, pink, or white flowers. There is much mis-information regarding this species of plant, as well as the Nelumbo nucifera plant. There's a great article called Blue Lily / Blue Lotus Flowers at Shaman's Garden, which makes it vividly clear which plant is which. In short, the reason for the confusion, is that India doesn't have ANY of the plants that are generally accepted as being called "lotus" flowers; they have Nymphaea caerula, which is the "Sacred BLue Lily of the Nile" made famous in Egyptian culture, but they refer to it as "Blue Lotus", confusing spiritual explorers the world over.
    Nelumbo nucifera - Blue Lotus
    Nymphaea caerulea - Blue Lily (Sacred Blue Lily of the Nile)
    • Nymphaea ampla - Mesoamerican White Lily (similar psychoactivity)
    • Nymphaea rubra - Red Lotus


    Two different plants, aren't they.

    I said that the COMMON names are used interchangeably, but BOTANICALY they are not the same.
    Plus I also pointed out that it is often regional. In the U.S. what is commonly known as a Blue Lily is the Agapanthus, not the Nymphaea.

    The one used as an intoxicant is Nelumbo nucifer, Blue Lotus.
    Is that clearer for you now.
     
  15. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    No I haven't as of yet, thought about getting some a couple years ago, but never did.
     
  16. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    Well since you are the resident non-marijuana botanist i'll take your word on it noxiuos...

    Yes they are all offered as the same thing on the web. This is what I had and what I was referring to, though not from this particular site, listed as blue lotus and it's the one from Egypt commonly referred to as a Blue Water lilly, what is being described in that video.

    http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=blue+lotus&gs_upl=2891l4094l0l4235l10l7l0l0l0l0l359l1686l0.2.1.3l6l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1680&bih=886&wrapid=tlif131861617864010&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=4274860278983753002&sa=X&ei=dnyYTqmiLMbUiALd1JGrDQ&ved=0CE0Q8wIwAQ#
     
  17. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Hey, thanks for the neg rep GB, considering you were wrong, not I.
    You really act like a fucking child sometimes, pitiful. :(
     
  18. guerillabedlam

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    Do we need to run away to a new screen name now?
     
  19. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Who, you, sure runaway little boy.
    I haven't run away from anything.
     
  20. guerillabedlam

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    hahah what a joke.
     
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