Live Earth: effective?

Call me a cynic, but is this really going to make people change? I don't think so. It's all good in making people aware about it, but things have gone too far for people to be willing to turn over their cars or even their light bulbs.

Do you think Live Earth will make a difference besides making people aware of the situation?

 

It's 'dout the environment innit ?.
What is the ''Live earth'' manifesto ?.
Imho - Yes it will make people change - it will take a few years for the benefit to be apparent. Imho it will make people change even if it is sub-conciously. Even though a lot will not know what ''Live earth'' want [like me].
Obviously to a degree [pardon the pun] it is preaching to the converted but the ''message'' how ever diluted and misunderstood wil filter down.
The cynic in me thinks most people even though they may be aware of the issues - just wanted to see Metalica live .

 

Anyone over 20 it was proably a waste, for those under and especially under 16 I think it might of carried some weight. The next generation are going to be very aware.

 

I think it's already made a difference. I mean, honestly "Live Earth" is just an extention of Earth Day and the Earth Day concerts that started back in the 90's. That was back when I was still in high school before I went away to college. I remember those, and honestly it was that awareness that caused me to push my family back then to start recycling and being more globally "aware".

I did think the interview though with Jack Osbourne was funny yesterday as he openly admitted his family doesn't recycle. :tongue: Johnathan Ross just sat there saying "you're not supposed to come on here and say stuff like that... you're supposed to say everything you do for the environment" which prompted Jack to admit he'd recently bought a "hybrid" car.

I'm still a bit confused as to whether or not "hybrid" cars are better for the environ or not. I know it sounds better, but I happened to see something Clarkson did when he was in the States and it's made me wonder how good they are since then. He wanted to blow one up (because obviously Clarkson hates the environment) but before he could do anything they had to remove all the fluids. This included removing all the battery cells as the fluid in them is toxic if they are spilled.

That bit right there is what left me concerned. What if a Hybrid is in a massive collision and battery fluid spills everywhere, what would that do to the environment?

I honestly don't know. I had always been under the belief that Hybrids were good, until I saw that. If it were just Clarkson that said it, I'd be skeptic; but it was the US equivalent of Environmental Health and Safety that told him about it.

 

fluorescent screw in light bulbs sales over the next few weeks will tell us if this event was a success or not

 

see if I can find some shares

 

i honestly don't think so, this event is just a another in a long line of events that have already happened and will happen in the immediate future that will change people's opinions on global warming

global warming has been an issue for decades, as with environmental issues in general, what makes now the time for change? especially considering that the society we live in is so apathetic and depraved

we will either reach a point where we will finally change or we won't
we can either keep living the comfortable lifestyle we've been living in or we can try and help the environment

i am in no way physic and can't tell which way we'll go, people need to think about others instead of themselves, in my small experience of almost 20 years i've realized that's not likely...but there is always hope, i believe a person can be realistic yet also hopeful and optimistic

 

People went of the musics and (Although most acknowledged it) a very small number went of the enviroment.

 

people go for the music

and they leave loving the environment

sounds like a good plan

 

i'm actually not a big fan of bio fuels as it will mean more expensive food for poor people as food will be diverted to fuel... recycled oil from fryolators are cool though

wind and solar power are better ideas

 

Chris Rock was asked by J.R(oss) if he thought it would change the world to which he replied..."I think it'll do the same for the environment as live aid has done for world hunger".

 

Nope it wont make any difference at all
The money raised for it will go to the same place as most of the money went for live 8.
There are ways of making people aware of climate change, flying in celebs on their own planes, allowing people to drive 4X4's in citys, and not pushing it in peoples faces enough arent good ways really!!!

Its all a load of bollocks

 

I didn't know all that much about Live Earth til Nay's post saying she was going. And my first thoughts were were pretty skeptical. I didn't know who they were trying to reach or how they were gonna get the message across. Indeed it seemed counter-productive, probably cost a pretty penny and surely generated a lot of waste no matter how conscious they were of that.

But listening to some of the folk they had on changed my opinion a bit. One guy said that it would make a massive differance in the States. Saying that the country responds very well to this kind of event. It's widely reported in the media and those reports will praise it rather than pick it apart.

Another thing I think it will help with, is the lack of places to take your recycling in this country. It seemed to be one of the biggest problems talked about on the show, amongst the Brits at least. So I dare say we'll see something done about that.

 

This is one of the biggest issues I have with the council.
In our area we're given 'pink sacks' for recycling. I'm not sure if this is all over the country or just our area. Anyhow, we received 'pink sacks' with our 'black bin bags' sometime last year. I'm nearly out of 'pink sacks' and they've recently come around with 'black bin bags' but didn't pass out any 'pink sacks'.

Now apparently, if you don't recycle they can fine you. So, I'm asking, how can I recycle if they don't give you the tools to recycle? If I don't have a bin or a sack or something to put the bits in for recycling what are you supposed to do? I live in a pretty small apartment, my kitchen is barely big enough to keep the pink sack next to the bin and still allow us to walk in and out of the door. There's barely enough room for 2 people to stand in the kitchen comfortably. So, how are you supposed to keep all your recycling sitting around until you can go down to one of the "recycling centres"? And why oh why don't they just give us enough 'pink sacks' to put those out every 2 weeks. It honestly makes no sense to me. I really wonder if the government gives a crap whether or not people recycle, they are just looking to earn more money off the backs of people who can't be bothered, they don't really care about the environmental effects. If they did, then they'd be handing out 'pink sacks' everywhere or giving us all proper bins to put the recycling in for the truck once a week.

*sorry, in a bit of a state of rant at the moment*

 

We don't have pink sacks. We've been given these black plastic boxes, decent size and durable. But I think (I don't have one) you're expected to put tins, glass and paper in there. And it's certainly not big enough for all that. It is a problem people have and I know folk who say their recycling's spilling over before the massive wheely bin is even half full.

I live a housing complex sort of thing and the bins are done privately - No recycling available whatsoever. So what we have to do is load our bags with glass and tins and take them a 25 minute walk into the centre. And glass and tin's all you can take there. And clothes, but I'm not going through clothes that quick!

That's why I built the little composter in the garden. We don't have a particularly big garden and it's 90% concrete! But I just had to reduce what we were bagging up for the dump somehow or other.

It's a kind of 'build it and they will come' thing

 

You know, a lot of the recycling that we are expected to do, glass bottles, tins, white goods (fridges, washing machines) and the like would be taken away from your door if you left it out at one time, Steptoe and Son. There was a value to these goods therefore people could make a living from 'recycling'. Now the culture seems to be about penailizing people for not recycling.

You're right Bokonon, we have been given the black plastic boxes. The problem is you never know when they are coming to collect the waste, and if you happen to put the wrong stuff in (certain types of paper and tins) they simply leave it behind with a reminder not to waste THEIR TIME.

Live Earth was successful for all the artists who performed by enjoying the backstage hospitality, raise their profile nationally/internationally and Wembley to justify its existence other than for footie. As for the environment well, I just don't know. I do appreciate that there were probably a great deal of sincere advocators involved, no less than Al Gore.

 

Well it's been a lot cooler today so I'd say it's been a big success!

 

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everybody is waiving and saying high and people are riding their bicycles and walking today so its definately a success

 

We have red boxes for recycling and if you have excess stuff then you just put it in another plastic box with no lid and they'll take the stuff from there too.

I doubt it will have had any major effect on the people who went, but i should think it would have made them change at least a few small things in their lives. They had so many videos and speeches shown to them and when people are in a big crowd like that, it can make you feel like you can change things. Even if it is buying one lightbulb.

But major change? of course not. Besides, you always get the people who just don't give a shit no matter how hard you try.