Letter To Michael Moore

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by Angel_Headed_Hipster, Sep 26, 2004.

  1. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Dear Mike,

    Farenheit 9/11 has stretched across the country, opening eyes and minds to the current administrations policies and how they must be changed. But why than, do you endorse a man like John Kerry, who agrees with the unilateral, and illegal, invasion of Iraq. This man also agrees with the attack on Afghanistan, which is going just as good as Iraq now.
    You also make references to Bush and his administrations fore-knowledge of the 9/11 attacks, and how they might have "Let it happen" to push their own agenda. I feel you are just hitting the tip of the iceberg on this issue. The evidence shows that the US government not only had fore-knowledge, but they funded, and trained the terrorists to implement this attack, they didn't only "Let it happen", they "MADE it happen". Why don't you bring up the fact that San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown was Warned, by the Federal Government, not to fly on September 11th (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?id=1000), not to mention countless other high ranking pentagon officials who were warned as well. Why did you not mention the surge in financial transactions made JUST before the two "Hijacked" planes crashed into the WTC(http://www.prisonplanet.com/german_firm_probes_final_world_trade_center_deals.htm). Why do you ignore the "Stand Down" order to the Air Force, which may have been given by Rumsfeld (http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/310304standdown.htm). You also don't include that Numerous suspected "Hijackers" are still alive and well, curious as to why they were named as a hijacker in federal reports (http://prisonplanet.com/seven_of_the_wtc_hijackers_found_alive.html). You also ignore the firefighters, the heroes who ran into the towers to save lives, who have come out and said there were explosives, bombs going off in the towers as they ran into them (http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/may2004/050504bombsinwtc.htm, http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/april2004/042304explosivesplaced.htm) and that it was not just planes. You also forget to mention the collapse of WTC7, why did it fall? Nothing hit it...(http://prisonplanet.com/multimedia_priorknowledge_wtc7andbombs.html).
    Now for the smoking guns...Andreas Von Buelow, the former german defense minister ADMITTED that the CIA was involved in the WTC attacks (http://www.prisonplanet.com/jones_report.html). Also, no pilot could make the manuevers made on that frightful day on September 11th, no my friend, the only way those manuevers could have been made is by remote control, meaning that the "Hijackers" would have needed US government help to make them(http://www.prisonplanet.com/planes_of_911_exceeded_their_software_limits.htm). Bush said, before entering The Emma T. Booker Elementary school, that he had quickly seen the first plane hitting the WTC, but later, said that he had no knowledge of anything going on until after he was told inside the school, now it is confirmed by the principal of the school, that he had in fact, not seen the WTC footage before he walked in the classroom (http://www.prisonplanet.com/bush_didnt_see_wtc_footage_before_he_entered_classroom.htm) so why did Bush say he had seen it? the only way he could have known ANYTHING about what was going on without seeing it on TV was foreknowledge and/or involvement in the attacks.
    Now we come to W99-I, a bill signed by Bush threatening FBI investegators WITH ARREST, under national security laws, if they tried to arrest Al Queda (http://www.prisonplanet.com/bush_took_fbi_off_laden_trail.html) this is absolute treason on the American people, and is a sure sign that Bush knew and protected Al Queda from arrest, so the attack would unfold, and the national police state would be implemented. Secondly, the CIA met with Bin Laden in July (http://prisonplanet.com/cia_agent_met_bin_laden_in_july.html), it is a documented fact, to plan the September 11th attacks. France heard this news and was shocked, so they published a media report in the Le figero about it. The CIA had not only met with Bin Laden, but they met him while he was being treated in a US hospital!
    Now it is not only the Bush administration helping Al Queda and funding terrorists, and working with terrorist leaders to create these terror attacks, to implement martial law across America, it was Clinton as well (I know you will hate to hear that) as well. Clinton was offered Osama Bin Laden by the Sudan, yet Clinton refused, and replied to them by bombing their only pharmaceutical plant, denying africa desperately needed medicine (This is mentioned in "Bowling for Columbine" but you mention it as a mistake, it was far from that). During the Bush Administration, even the taliban said they would hand over Bin Laden, but once again, the US government refused, this is clear, smoking gun evidence of the US government using terrorism as a means to implement a national ID card system, and implement a police state here in America. Randy Glass warned US intelligence of terrorist attacks (http://www.prisonplanet.com/013004randyglass.html), as did the MI6 in england (http://www.prisonplanet.com/mi6_warned_us_of_al_qaeda_attacks.html). it has been documented that the US even had agents inside Al Queda, who had heard about these impending terrorist attacks, but nothing was done (http://prisonplanet.com/us_had_agents_inside_al_qaeda.htm). The US also ignored warnings from France about an impending terrorist attack (http://prisonplanet.com/US_Ignored_Warnings_From_French.htm), AND warnings from Egypt (http://prisonplanet.com/egypt_leader_says_he_warned_america.html). Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil, a taliban foreign minister, was sent to the US and warned US intelligence of these attacks, again, they were ignored (http://www.prisonplanet.com/taliban_warned_us_of_huge_attack.htm). It is a necessity to know that the US intelligence did not ignore these warnings out of stupidity, or skeptisism of legitamacy, these warnings were ignored because the US had funded Al Queda, trained Hijackers, and were not about to let a few warnings stop them from implementing their plan of terror on a mass scale to turn the US into a police state, just as Hitler had done with burning the Reichstag, and using it as a way to steal the citizens rights, and implement martial law. This can be seen as a repeat of history through smoking gun evidence showing that hijackers were trained at the Pensacola Naval airbase (http://prisonplanet.com/alleged_hijackers_may_trained_us_bases.html), this would never have been allowed unless the US had prior knowledge and involvement in these attacks.
    Back to clinton, who had three chances to apprehend Bin Laden. The Taliban had twice agreed to hand over Bin Laden, but after bombing afghanistan in '98, they turned away the offer (http://www.prisonplanet.com/taliban_agreed_to_hand_over_osama_in_98.htm). this offer was also given in '96 and was again ignored by the corrupt Clinton administration (http://prisonplanet.com/sudan_offered_to_arrest_bin_laden.html), setting the scene, and letting the terrorists go free, to make sure that 9/11 happened.
    Now, why would the US want a terror attack to happen on it's own soil? As I know, I am sure you do to, because you a very intelligent person, but i feel you do not touch on the subjects at hand, that the American public MUST know about, you only touch on the subjects they are comforatable with, which further blinds the American people. The US government wants complete control of the Middle East, to control it's oil resources, and make it into a new America. the Carlyle group, as mentioned in your movie (But of course made to look harmless with the comment that they are only looking for money, and not trying to control the world or dominate the middle east) is owned by the Bush's and the Bin Ladens. Osama has not been shunned by his family as the American public has been made to believe, he is closer than ever, and this has been documented thoroughly. The Bush Family and the Bin laden family use Osama to create these terrorist attacks, everytime a US president needs a distraction overseas. The Bush's and Bin Ladens also use Osama to create these terrorist attacks to make wars such as the Invasion of Afghanistan. When these wars are created, they make Billions in defense contracts, now the plan becomes clear. Eventually, this group will control all of the Middle East, and continue on their next target, unless we are able to stop them as a people. They have already said Iran is the next target...and they actually have ties to Al Queda, which means the US government may have an easier time getting into Iran, the world is becoming a very scary place with the US government basically running the whole show. And, as you said in your movie, Bin Laden's Family was let go, when they should have been interrogated. I was very happy this was in your film, but you never bring up the fact that Bin Laden's family was sent away because the US government, along with the Bin Ladens, was involved in the 9/11 attacks, and had to let their "business" partners off the hook, you forgot to even say out loud that the US government LET the attacks happen, you just somewhat let the audience pick up that fact, but heres a news flash for you, atleast 1/3 of the country is too stupid to even come up with that conclusion, when talking to the brainwahed, media whores of the country, you have to be direct, you have to tell them what is going on, you can't expect these people to come up with the truth by themselves, the years and years of brainwash from FOX news has stopped their ability to do that, and now all they can do is soak up what they see and hear, and never make any assumptions for themselves, it is truly, very sad.
    Now, being that you are one of the people in this country who has the ability to think for themselves, you may believe what I had to say, but many others do not, and do not believe the US government could get away with such a big conspiracy, but as Hitler said, a master of public mind control and propaghanda..."The Public will more easily fall victim to a big lie than a small one". If you decided to believe what is really going on in our corrupt government and others don't believe you, don't forget to bring up the Reichstag Fire in Germany, 1933, Mention Nero Burning rome, and blaming it on the christians. Mention the Northwoods Document, a document written by the Military Industrial Complex, giving the idea to blow up US ships and blame it on Cuba to create a pretext for war there. Bring up Pearl Harbor, and how FDR had heard the intercepted communique from the japanese saying "On December 7th, we will attack the US military base and they will feel a death blow", and bring up the McCullom Memo, which details an 8-step plan to provoke Japan to attack America, and make a pre-text to get involved in WWII.
    This is nothing new, and our government will continue their lust for power over the public until something is done to stop them. You, Michael Moore, hold the key in your hand to put an end to this, you hold more power than I and many others who know the truth. If you came out and said he things I have told you today, you could start a revolution, and you have started one in many ways already. The time is passing us by, and if you do not act on this, and continue to spread your "All democrats are good, all republicans are bad" idea, and spreading information that does not even come close to what REALLY HAPPENED, nothing will ever be done. But if you really want to, you can maybe combine republicans and democrats, in a fight against the real enemy, the military industrial complex, who's dream is to take away every single freedom that we have, you can do it if you want to, instead of giving in to their dream of a constant fight against democrats and republicans, and a split up country, we can band together and fight for one common goal, freedom.

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  2. HappyHaHaGirl

    HappyHaHaGirl *HipForums Princess*

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    I really only read the first two lines, but I can tell by the purple links that you made some really good points. :)
     
  3. airforcedrew

    airforcedrew Banned

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    one problem is, im sure he gets around 30-40 of those letters a day.
     
  4. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    MM is clearly a warped individual...and this thread makes me ill.
     
  5. atropine

    atropine Member

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    wow all but one link from the same site.. i could give a link to a site.. slowly going through farenheit and showing all the ways mm has lied and decieved with that movie, but then again you guys would probly just say its rightwing propaganda or something. jeez make your own movie if youve got so much shit to say
     
  6. duckandmiss

    duckandmiss Pastafarian

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    Actually, his post is full of conspiracy theory he thinks MM should have touched on, alot of it is a bit of stretch. The reason MM only puts in what he did in the movie is because the informations he uses is backed up with facts that can be documented by credible news sourses, I dont know if the same can be said about some of your links. MM's movie is actually intresting in the fact that if you remove his commentary and just watch the footage, you would ask some of the same questions MM did. Like, hmm why is the entire Bush family really close friends with the Saudis?


    and Dan says,
    "The time is passing us by, and if you do not act on this, and continue to spread your "All democrats are good, all republicans are bad" idea, and spreading information that does not even come close to what REALLY HAPPENED, nothing will ever be done."

    MM postion is actually Democrats are bad, Bush is worse.
     
  7. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Yeah, it is from the same site, but all the sites links are from other media sources like MSNBC and ABC news.

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  8. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Michael Moore raised points in his movie that most INFORMED people already knew, which is maybe the 10% of the American public that doesn't blindly buy into the right/left paradigm and get all their news from FOX and CNN.

    I'll give Moore credit for at least raising some important questions about the Bush Administration, but really, the movie was a whitewash. Moore didn't talk about the standdown of NORAD, or the several war-game drills that were taking place on the morning of 9/11.

    THIS IS NOT "CONSPIRACY THEORY" -- it's FACT!

    Moore and his fans buy into the naive notion that 9/11 was simply an "accident" that occured in the hands of an incompetent president who took too many vacations. It was a lot like the 9/11 Commission, which placed general blame without getting to the REAL issues.

    So, in my mind, Michael Moore is really just a shill for the Democratic Party.

    If people want to see some REAL 9/11 documentaries, they should look into getting Alex Jones' 9/11: The Road to Tyranny, Dave vonKleist's 9/11: In Plane Site, Mike Ruppert's The Truth and Lies of 9/11, and Eric Hufschmid's Painful Questions.

    Unlike Moore's movie, these movies are more substance than style.
     
  9. chickenchoker

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    You could always go to the theatre and pay for another movie. Then just sneak into Mike's piece of shit movie. I think he's fat and disgusting. I can hardly watch him - he makes me sick.

    Peace and Love,
    Chokin' my chicken
     
  10. green_thumb

    green_thumb kill your T.V.

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    I always find it amusing that Republicans and others who don't like Moore usually tend to fixate on his physical appearance. I know a Republican who does this too, I asked him if he's seen F9/11 and he just started ranting about Moore- "He's a fat, ugly SLOB!" "No, and I never will see it"...etc. The only aspect of him they can rip on is his looks. Funny. Because they never view his documentaries.
    These people don't want to know the truth because their world would come crashing down.
     
  11. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    I get sick of it too. Conservatives and liberals both have fat ugly slobs speaking for their sides.
     
  12. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Yep, Rush Limabaugh is the equivalent to Moore except to the right, except my guess is that Moore is probably a nicer guy in real life, but that's just my guess, I could be terribly wrong, it's just Rush seems like much more of an asshole.

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Michael Moore is definitely the mainstream left's Rush Limbaugh. Both are extremely biased and partisan. They both love propaganda. They're both incredibly wealthy. They're both arrogant.

    Basically Moore and Limbaugh are the same, they simply spew different rhetoric while completely ignoring the big picture.
     
  14. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Except being from Flint, Moore probably has a different drug of choice than oxycontton. Ghetto dope, anyone?

    (Might not get that if you aren't from Flint, I guess...)
     
  15. turtlefriend

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    Being that you apparently have never seen the movie, you'd know for sure that it was full of myths and half-truths. :rolleyes:
     
  16. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Michael Moore's Drug of choice is 3 big macs, 2 large fries, and a large cola, and a nice apple pie for the come down...lol

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  17. SunLion

    SunLion Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    You could always go to the theatre and pay for another movie. Then just sneak into Mike's piece of shit movie.

    These are people who are letting OTHERS fight and die and lose arms, legs, and balls (in their place) in Iraq, just like Bush let OTHER people die in his place in Vietnam.

    They're too afraid to do the above- after all, they might have to face the 17 year old pimpled ticket-taker's wrath.
     
  18. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    lol...supsersize it, and you may be right :p
     
  19. bandit28

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    Hi people on the left, I live on the right. I have seen the movie, as I often enjoy his documentaries. Unlike most lefties here, after watching the movie I did some research. In my research I found those same 59 points mentioned earlier. I saw where Moore took a newspaper article and altered it to say what he wanted it to say. I saw that he used pre party footage from Florida that was taped in the morning and he made it seem like it was taped much later on. There are so many topics in his movie that he is either unwilling to comment on or tries to give an excuse for his lies. I certainly learned something this time around. Something that Moore was definatly banking on others not to do. I learned not to believe everything I see and hear. Yup, I was disapointed in Moore after this release.

    You could always do what I did. Seeing as Moore said he didn't care if he made a dime off the movie he just wanted people to see the "truth", A friend downloaded it and we watched at the house.
     
  20. atropine

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    moore always uses footage inaccurately in order to deceive the viewer. he did it a lot in bowling and from what i hear he did it a lot in farenheit.. while there may be truths mixed in with what hes saying id never believe anything coming from him, might spark a bit of research about what he talks about but too many people follow blindy what he says..
     
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