Let's compare 4-AcO-DMT to shrooms.

Yeah, what the thread title says. Drop a vote if you must and leave, and I would be most grateful if you could leave an explanation.

I must say, I've never really eaten more than a gram and a half of shrooms [to brighten nights of smoking weed] back before I was ready to really start tripping; I was afraid of a psychedelic experience because I didn't know what it was, and I was trying to ease into with my dosing. Then the shrooms went away and that was that; I never really got to "trip shrooms."

Fast forward two years and a few acid trips later, I found myself standing there with a little baggie of 4-AcO-DMT. Wow is all I can say. What a trip. It felt like shrooms to me, but of course I never experienced shrooms fully, and I had a pretty cool experience with a knife-tip [50 mg] of that "shroom dust" as it has come to be known.

 

it has a few tiny differences, which are too hard to describe but for the most part i describe it as synthetic shroom powder to people not familiar with RC's.

 

4-aco-dmt is cleaner, less confusing, less emotionally chaotic, and the visuals are different. it's like the point between mushrooms and DMT.

 

Please say more about it. I want to be able to better explain it to my friends.

Nice post. If you have any other thoughts on it please share. I'm genuinely interested in your response.



I already ordered another half gram of it.

 

here's my two trip reports on it

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=378869&f=126

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?p=6015109#post6015109

 

Thanks man. Those were both cool. 4-AcO-DMT is some radical shit.


Oh boy am I excited to be on the way of a half gram of 2C-E, a half gram of the substance discussed in this thread, and 20 hits of some powerful blotter. [It's not acid, but it's a fun trip. I don't want to lose the hook by asking what's on it though. (Saying, "This isn't acid." and hearing, "Buy somewhere else.")]

Those 100 whipits were gone in 2 days.

 

just say "so what is this, because ive done pure LSD and this isn't it. I like it though!" it's probably a dox.

 

by knife tip do you mean hot knife? or just using the knife as a scoop or size reference?

 

scoop size reference. a bad one of course. exactly what is a "tip"?

 

50 milligrams.
half a point = knife-tip.

This was measured on a scale, not a knife. lol.

People usually love hearing slang terms like that, it gives an air of 'knowing what you're doing' when really nobody, anywhere, ever, has really 'know what they are doing.'

 

I have taken each only once. But I had what was probably the best and most magical night of my life on mushrooms. And maybe I didn't take a high enough dose of 4-aco-DMT, because it simply didn't have quite the same magic to me. But I also was not in as good of an environment or probably as good of a place in my life. I am also unsure of the dose I took. My boyfriend is the one who is really into RC's, So he is usually in charge of figuring out doses. I guess I am just along for the ride with a person that I love. Haha so basically this is probably useless.

 

No it's a cool post. I still haven't gotten around to eating more than a gram of mushrooms. It was just a little trippy but no trip. I was just a scared kid though, didn't wanna trip too hard... but made it to college and tried acid and just went off on it, like god dang I know more now than I would have imagined is knowable. But the more I know the more I realize how little I know. /post.

 

haha thanks. Yeah I tripped balls of the dose I took. But maybe I am just sensitive and it was my first time. I have taken acid but it was on a pretty horrible and chaotic day, so I didn't really get a good feel for it. I was also in the city whereas on mushrooms we went on a walk in a cool hilly park in my town and it was just magical.

 

i've gotten this "skin crackling" effect on 4-aco-dmt that i've never gotten from anything else other than Dmt. the clarity of it reminds me of low doses of dmt as well.

great stuff

 

However my experience is limited to at least 2 or 3 different unknown substances on blotter, some LSD, some 2C-E, and this 4-AcO-DMT, I wouldn't call it so clear. Every trip was different, I never really knew what to expect from it. But it could be personal bias.

 

On mushrooms I tend to get stuck in deep contemplation and have a harder time shifting my attention on command, whereas on 4-AcO-DMT I almost always have a spastic, uppity sort of trip where I'm usually content with wherever my attention happens to be at the moment

Simply put, mushrooms are more cosmic and deep, and 4-AcO is more speedy but relaxing (with an almost light-MDMA-like quality)

However, both have a very similar energy to them and either trip has the possibility to go either way (and has). These are just tendencies I've observed. I've noticed much more similarities between the two substances than differences

 

The issue with 4-AcO-DMT is that is is an RC and as such the danger IMO is purity. You have absolutely no idea whatsoever what is in an RC. And what I tried felt poisoning to a degree and I had an unpleasant time as a result. I disliked it compared with shrooms I picked myself. In this instance the set and setting is the thought possibly ingesting poison created by someone who did not know what they were doing in a lab, not great IMO.

 

This thread is exactly what I was looking for. Been researching 4-ACO for a while and think I'm about ready to try it. Never done a psychedelic RC before! Hoping it's not too intense or "DMT-like". lol

 

Coming from the other side of the spectrum, I've taken "bad" shrooms and felt poisoned before, which is no better than chemical-induced poisoning I assure you. Every inch of my body hurt, from my head to my urinary tract. Don't know if they were moldy or WHAT, but it was not good. Mis-identifying shrooms when picking them in the wild can be just as dangerous as contaminated RCs.

 

I've yet to experience anything remotely similar in terms of intensity as smoked DMT from 4-aco dmt. I have plugged 4-aco dmt once though and that experience was fairly similar to pharmahuasca, so I'd say it's somewhat similar to oral DMT.

Some definite similarities between 4-aco dmt and shrooms but some notable differences as well. I tend to feel a greater degree of trepidation going into a shroom trip than a 4-aco dmt trip, Shrooms I find a bit more confusing and unrelenting, 4-aco dmt is a bit more of a balanced and malleable trip but both can produce quite extrodinary experiences.