Lab grade dmt???

I know a vendor who has"lab grade" dmt that was not extracted, but made from scratch..
This sounds possible to me but kinda fishy.
The first thing that came to mind wad 5~meo~dmt, but he assures me its the real deal. I will be getting this on monday and have no experience with any dmt to compare it with.
Ive read about it for years, and am extremley anxious to try it.
Does this scream scam to anyone? also what does a gram of dmt usually go for.

 

I have never seen it or heard of anyone getting it that I know, but it's possible.
The visuals will distinguish it from 5-meo-dmt I think. That would be pretty cool if it is real synthetic DMT.

 

I take it that 5 meo is much much weaker??
This is spose to be a fine white powder. 30mg.
Do you know how much grams cost?

 

5-meo-dmt is actually more potent than DMT, it just tends to produce less visual phenomena. But the only time I smoked 5-meo-dmt, I had some pretty detailed checkerboard fractals so since you don't have much of a base for comparison, that's probably not very helpful.

DMT is explicitly scheduled in the U.S. so I'd be skeptical of it personally but I know there are some fairly underground vendors and stuff was well.

Gram prices vary, I've generally seen the $60-100 price range.

 

Hes asking a bit more for his. its all good though. My sample is free, from a friend, of a friend. I hope all goes well so I can post a report.
I have never seen it before. Or asked for it. But have been reading up on it for awhile now, and the deemster just shows up

 

Well since the average person can easily extract their own DMT, I am sure a vendor could.

 

He says its not extracted. It was "lab made from scratch"

 

Synthetic DMT hasn't been around since approximately 1968-1972 AFAIK. So damned easy to extract and recrystallize to make it ultra-pure. Who the fuck would be stupid enough to do a super complex synthesis that involves watched precursors when this fact is true? Occam's Razor says your vendor is a liar.

BEWARE if you think you're getting 5-meo. It's hella more powerful mg by mg than N,N and it CRANKS heart-rates beyond what may be a safe level imo. I'd hate to be or know the guy who thought he was going to try for a breakthrough dose of N,N, then hits 50 mgs of 5-meo. Somewhere between SOL and DOA that dude would be . . . .

 

Thanks for the insight spicey. I know you know your dmt. I guess all I can do is wait till I get it. Maybe (most likely) the whole "lab grade" has to do with his price. 160 a gram

 

Actually I'm going to have to disagree. The synthesis to make DMT is ULTRA simple. It is just as easy to extract it, especially to a chemical supply lab. They start with Tryptaphan or a similar readily available product and go from there. These labs have tons of simple precursors lying around and there are many ways to get pure DMT. Someone I had talked to had a half of a lb of lab grade DMT. It would be MUCH more trouble for chemical vendors to import rootbark or other natural sources to start from. It is definitely out there in certain circles. Regardless, 160 might be on the pricey side but not because its lab grade, Dmt prices just vary wildly. It all depends on how much the people who got it bought in the first place...

 

Thats good to know. Thanks !

 

Thank you very much for the neg rep omacatl.
maybe someday I will give two fucks about you thinking im in idiot.
Psft...and I thought you were alright.

 

tell us if ifts any good

 

The sample never came.

 

damn you need to find yourself some better vendors.

 

Sorry Midwest, I know what that's like. Keep at it, there are legit vendors out there.

 

Wellu can live with out the sample,.ots the 2 sheets of unactive blotter that reallybugs me.
Greedy bastards.
My vendor said he will take care ofme when he gets back to town..
5/6 times ive tried to buy sheets I got scammed..
Someday I will find a legit vendor

 

Well, I've an associate (hereinafter called "Dimitri") who I've heard existed that synthesizes DMT infrequently, though at least once per month. That person's stated reasons for doing so are delineated below:

1) Monopolization of a nearly pristine underground market; there are no competitors to haggle and scrabble with, which makes it very unlike the markets of MDMA, cannabis, cocaine, heroin, etc.

2) Dimitri's purpose for this enterprise is mostly, though not exclusively, of a financial nature. Dimitri is discerning enough to see the ineffective, logistically insuperable, and pathetically paltry nature of extracting DMT from plants for anything more than personal consumption, let alone as a lucrative source of income.

3) Dimitri takes umbrage with killing living organisms (i.e., Mimosa hostilis trees) as nothing more than a way to get high. His reasons for such a believe stems from his arrant conviction that it robs the organism of its true identity and beauty that it, like all organisms, inherently possess. Instead, it’s robbed of that real identity and a superficial one that’s imputed by man–one that demeans the plant itself, ignores its existence as an organisms and only sees it as an object to be molested and defiled in order to obtain its now commodified alkaloid (DMT).That alkoild is thence known pars pro toto with the plant in which it’s found. That plant therefrom ceases to remain the same organism it once was and thus its beauty has been stolen from it which makes it tantamount to being extinct. It has been reduced to a harbinger of alkaloids and no more.

4)Dimitri also apparently enjoys the feeling a drug’s successful synthesis evokes in him. The feeling of replicating what nature has been doing for billions of years is exulting in his case. The difficulty with which man goes through to synthesize these compounds relative to nature and her immaculate and ingenious biosynthesis of these same compounds is humbling and awesome to Dimitri. It supposedly gives him a greater appreciation and cognizance of nature’s incomprehensible complexity and supernal beauty and elegance.

 

I haven't seen you around much yet but you, my friend, are a keeper.
I have nothing really to add other than to welcome you to the forums! :rockon:

 

Dimitri is the guy to know. Good to hear of chemists with good intent.