Knowledge vs. Association

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by ImmortalDissident, May 24, 2005.

  1. ImmortalDissident

    ImmortalDissident Senior Member

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    As we know, "intelligence" or knowledge, occurs when your brain makes associations between one or more images, sounds, scents, textures, etc. So as I was sitting here, just thinking of things to look up online, I was wondering if anyone has run across a sound method for training the brain to create more associations than the average person.
     
  2. SpliffVortex

    SpliffVortex Senior Member

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    images, sounds, scents, textures = like sex?
     
  3. andcrs2

    andcrs2 Senior Member

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    Yes.
    Prob is they didn't take on me - they're escaping me at this Point in Time...*g*
     
  4. ImmortalDissident

    ImmortalDissident Senior Member

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    No.
     
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    Reading is the best way. I should say reading a book, and understanding the text, not just speed reading a magazine article about sex or something.
     
  6. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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  7. ImmortalDissident

    ImmortalDissident Senior Member

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    Hey thanks for that suggestion Shaggie... I'll definitely check that out.


    I guess I wasn't really talking about awareness so much as... I'll just give an example.

    When you see a new object (let's pretend it's 1975) such as a computer, you have a word to represent the symbol (the physical object). In your mind, when you hear that word, for the rest of time, you will visualize a computer. You've learned a new word because you've associated a word with a symbol. So in this case the reverse is true, if you see the physical object of the computer, you know what it is called.

    So it's been proven that knowledge essentially is associations. Those with brilliant minds (like some autistic people) are able to make associations between things that usually people aren't able to.

    I don't know, maybe the subject requires soem pretty in depth research.
     
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    shaggie Senior Member

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    I'm not sure what it is about autistics, that just seems to be true for not many, but a good portion of them. I think autistic people are usually idiot savants, though... don't quote me on that.
     
  12. ImmortalDissident

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    GAH! I've made about 4 posts here already and for some reason they aren't showing up, not here or any other thread I've posted in today.... so if you want to continue this, my PMs are working :) .
     
  13. become autistic, works wonders.....

    seriously though, everything in my head is tied together (mildly autistic discussed this in the fora) and one of the things I do to help my memory (because my memory is 100% associational, really sucks sometimes, specially watching jeopardy) I'll start writing down associations, I've filled a 100 page college rule note book in about two hours this way, I usually start w\ a well traveled associational road (and because you will occasionally come up w\ 2 words come up w\ a key or system to deal w\ divergent paths) min will look something like this

    Locke, demosthenes, philipics {marbles} paul simon {my fair lady} lenny bruce {pygmalion} benny and the jets {clay} elton john, butterflys are free, ms baker, scarsdale, tight ass matron, martha stewart, silpat, julia child, jaque pepin, france, tea pot, tea, east india tea company, boston tea party, revolution, beatles, john lennon, ilyivich lenin, communism, socilism, marx, communist manifesto, comerade, taverish, translation, dna, adenine, thymine, triptophane...

    etc.

    in my case the {} were a divergent branch that disolved, yeah that's what I do, just free associate, don't just use words and phrases either, since you're writing for you you can use smells and flavours that are difficult to describe to someone else, I know this smell that I can never describe, I've never found the thing that smells like it but I associate good things w\ the scent and I've created a symbol to deal w\ it on paper


    hope that helped
     
  14. Lizardman0

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    Yea, increase your IQ. The best way to increase your IQ is to take up an instrument and learn how to play music.
     
  15. ImmortalDissident

    ImmortalDissident Senior Member

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    Wow, that's awesome Quest. I've never thought of something so simple working, but I guess if you are focused on making association, you will more likely do it in every day life... like picking up a habit.

    Lizard, my IQ is perfectly fine (although I do play and sing). I'm not quite sure how to explain what I mean because it seems the responses have been close to what I was looking for.... but just, not, quite there. Quest understands, but then again he says he's mildly autistic, so he can relate. I don't even know how to explain it anymore lol.

    Just... like Quest's post. How to increase associations. Bleh... I give up. Thanks Lizard and Quest.
     
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    Well I think you have a very valid point shaggie, however, I think that the two methods should be intertwined, if at all possible. Personally, I can't remember something unless I completely understand it... but maybe if I could remember it first, I could understand it faster. Because even if I do understand something, I still can't visualize it, or remember how to do it when it comes to an exam.
     
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