Not a K user at all, but I'd like to know what exactly is the K Hole... is it like the LD50 dose? Is it bad? Is it a very intense trip but not a bad one, though? ~ Thanks
i have absolutely no clue but it's probably an overdose like you said the LD50 thing.... but i duno i've never tried it. but i wouldn't want to risk it finding out if it's like the LD50 or not so don't try that much and just do enough to get high.
no it is not an overdose at all. it is when the intesity level of the drugs effects breaks into a new realm... im assuming youre not experienced with disassociatives but if you are its pretty easy to imagine. i guess it begins when you start getting disoriented and confused (much more so then you already are)... you cant feel yourself sitting up / down or moving your arms or walking... it gets difficult and unless youre forced to be mobile, youll lay down. you loose track of where / when you are, will experience ego loss, and be lost in the world of your mind. i never went in deep, but i have friends that did a lot of k. my one friend that has done it often even had a 'religious awakening' after 10 bags worth, claimed he saw and spoke with jesus, he wont tell us what they talked about but he now believes in god when he never did before.
oh, kitaro i saw your post on lsd, you really cant die from taking a gram. dont believe everything on erowid.. they are often way off with dosages.
YIOU SHOULD NEVER DO A GRAM! JESUS CHRIST! if i got a vial full and pure from a vet and cooked it up, how many mg's would i have? i did it before and it lasted me a long k-d out week ending in a K hole. MY K HOLE was complete and instant ego loss. did not know where,what,when,how,who,why....its being absolutely nothing. i was blind the entire time and kept running sand through my fingers, believing i was sinking into the sands of time where i would get lost and never find out anything and be stuck in the black world forever. i met someone, i couldnt see them but they spoke to me, a jesus like persona i now believe to be some subconciouss part of me, calmming me down. i think i forgot what he told it, but it helped at the time. 1 more thing. i'm sick of "ravers" (sorry, it's not all you guys) that come running up to me like "OMG! I AM IN THE BIGGEST K-HOLE!" i'm thinkin.... "BITCH, IF YOU WERE REALLY IN A K-HOLE HOW THE FUCK YOU WALK OVER HERE AND TALK TO ME? HOW THE FUCK COULD YOU EVEN SEE ME?" say your fucked up, thats all, k-hole is a big deal and the term shouldnt be thrown around so loosely.
Yah, ya right! lool But I believe doubletrapezoid was talking about lsd, when talking about a gram. BTW, if you think I'm a raver, try again... I have never done not even one synthetic drug. And, for a question of principles, I will never do it. I just asked you about the K hole, because, as you know, Ketamine is use as an anaesthetic. But the K hole dose is LESS than the anaesthetic! I found that interesting...and confusing lol Peace.
I'm Kinda interested in K. At least you dont have to worry about ODing... it takes a lot. Plus cat tranq sounds fun.
my advise to every one is to stay away from chemical drugs alltogether. if it didnt come from the earth, its dangerous to your body and should not be used. lsd is the only exception but ill never do it again due to a bad trip.......but you cant get pure lsd any more any due to the fluff familys state of being in jail . some one could sell you a tab with rat poisin on it, ive seen it happen. keep it organic for the good of the earth. weed, mushies, opium, peyote......... thats all youd ever need.
I've never take K, but I have taken pcp, where I got the "hole" visuals. In every sense of the word, it was literally a hole I could'nt see out of. Like your field of vision when looking through a paper tube. idk, it's really hard to explain. I was still intact though.
Yeah isn't LSD extremely non-toxic? Also, I always thought a K-Hole was like a major ketamine addiction that results in huge K binges?
The K Hole is when you take ketamine and to put it in simple terms, are drawn into the hole of your subconcious opened for you by the ketamine. It's when you find yourself in a completely changed reality and have such great understanding of this new reality you've been drawn into. And when you're in the K Hole, as someone said earlier, you will NOT be walking around bragging about it. You will most likely be laying on the floor completely unaware of any and everything that's happening in reality. The K Hole is an extremely insightful experience if you can retain enough of what happened. Most people who snort K won't even get to this point unless you're doing really really high dosages of it, or combining it with something like LSD. The best K hole experiences I've ever heard people tell were intramuscular injections of K. This guy could have be trampled over and never known it. Anyway, I'm rambling now. The K Hole is a really intense experience though, and gives you a great sense of understanding, and an entire new visual universe.
thank you. and i never pointed any fingers when i said "ravers". i jus had that experience a couple times at raves.
Gotta agree there, nature provides everything we need ever... sorry its such an old post reply. Beholder
A gram of LSD can't kill you? I would um, kind of believe that, even though LSD isn't toxic. A street blotter from the late 90s was like 80-120 micrograms of lsd. a microgram is .000001 grams, so a hit off the street is .00008 g. So like 12000 hits off the street or something? More like 2000 psychedelic doses (500 microgram or >) PS I hope I didn't make any math errors, I'm stoned as hell...
your in a k hole when your watching yourself from outside your body or at least thats always been my expireince with it.