Johnson's Shut-Ins

Discussion in 'Camping/Outdoor Living' started by ElChivato, Dec 15, 2005.

  1. ElChivato

    ElChivato SeNioR MeMBeR

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    i was just wondering if anyone on here had ever gone to the shut-ins here in missouri. tom sawk (sp) dam broke and let a billion gallons of water rush down on the park and i donno how bad it is, but it's all covered in mud. i hope they can clean it up cuz i really don't want them to close down that park. it was a really cool place.
     
  2. NaturaAtraSpiritus

    NaturaAtraSpiritus Member

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    What is a shut in?
     
  3. wrine420

    wrine420 Member

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    Its an area where you can go and swim in. They are like watefalls which you can flow up and down. Ive been and Im really sad to hear that the place was overcome by a broken dam. Beautiful place nonetheless
     
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  4. Trippin' Billies

    Trippin' Billies Senior Member

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    yeah, my friends used to camp up there alot... sadly i haveent been back there in a couple of years... i need to go soon, it really is a beautiful place
     

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  5. fylthevoyd

    fylthevoyd Super Moderator

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    Yeah Johnson Shut-Ins is...well was....a beautiful place.I haven't heard yet as to what they are going to do about it.I do know that there is an investigation going on to why the dam failed.As in typical American style,it is in the finger pointing stage now,nobody is wanting to own the fact that the dam wasn't built to the standards that it needed to be.I myself,hope that they decide to rebuild....but at this time it is still questionable:( It would be such a loss if they forego rebuilding,cuz t was a great place to enjoy some of Missouri's great outdoors.
     
  6. theshaman

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    Yeah, Johnson's Shutins was a beautiful place. I'd only been once, but I hope to go back this summer if it's open.
     
  7. SandalScout

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    Perhaps even more of a shame that nearly EVERYONE thinks that a Dam is:

    1. Capable of keeping rivers from flooding. They gotta open the gates eventually.

    2. Proof that mankind feels the need to manipulate nature.

    Why do we think we can control things like this? All dams do is lead to worse things such as blow outs and false ideas of safety (remember the 1991 Mississippi flood that wash out a BUNCH of communities? They now have to move further from the river, as least one lesson was learned).

    But anyway, sorry for the rant, it looks like a great place!!!
     
  8. Big Bull

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    Yes I have been there but it was over 25 years ago, its North East of where I live. Though I am not sure how far, at least 100 miles, they had some great rocks there! I love to collect rocks on my travels!
     
  9. riverrat

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    according to a news report last week on ky3(www.ky3.com) the shut-ins are being cleaned up, but will be closed until it is done. they are looking to get enough cleaned up to re-open part of the park in may-i think that's what they said, it might have been late march. it seems there is a lot of rebar lodeged underwater that they are trying to remove. the company that owns the taum sauk res. will be paying the state back for all expenses involved in the clean up. the attorney general stated that soon after the break happened. they have also found out that the company that owns it knew the dam was failing & did nothing to stop it from happening. according to documents they knew the week before it happened.

    here are some articles i found relating to the flooding & recovery.

    www.gonemild.com/2005/12/taum-sauk-flood-johnsons-shut-ins.html
    www.geostl.com/SLAGAPostNuke/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=67
    www.theozarktrail.com/taumsaukupdate.htm
    www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=89413

    i found some pics of the damage but i don't remember where they are right now. if i find them again i'll post the site.
     
  10. Normlzach

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    I practically grew up at Johnson Shut Ins. Almost died once jumping off the bluffs. We shouldn't mess with nature, this is not the first corp of engineers damn that has broke. Luckily this time, they didn't kill anyone. Estes Park 1980
     
  11. riverrat

    riverrat Member

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    the dam isn't owned by the corps, it is privately owned by amerenUE an energy services company. https://www.ameren.com/aboutus/adc_au_TaumSauk.asp you're right tho, luckily that family has survived & the 3 children are gonna be ok.
     
  12. Normlzach

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    The Corps of Engineers is responsible for setting the guide lines for regulating all the dams in missouri, Under other state's guidlines that dam would have been considered unsafe. It's not all ameren's fault, but they sure as hell didn't do anything right.
     
  13. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    It's sad when a company will only follow the guidelines as they are written, and won't ensure the safety of the dam just because the guidelines don't require it. I mean, alright, they may not be breaking the laws of the sate, but it's fucking retarded to build a dam according to them if it's going to be unsafe. Sometimes you have to go above and beyond...
     

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