Islam is archaic

i am so tired of seeing women dejected beneath layers of clothing while their filthy husbands smoke their cigarettes and scratch their nuts gawking at anglo women walking around. meanwhile the muslim women follow behind their husbands and children, carrying all family gear herself. how could anyone ever say islam is anything more than a religion based on the premise of 'the pimp'? actually thats probably a reversal...islam birthed 'pimping'.

oh crusades where are you when i need you?

***this post courtesy of the ever glowing fan base of Cat Stevens.

 

Wow. You think another crusades is an answer? That was horrible bloody time in history for everyone. What a selfish uneducated remark. Even jews and other ethnic Europeans were targeted, and slaughtered.

 

The crusades were in response to the jihad that started with Mohammed and have pretty much continued to today they were defensive wars.

People that didn’t fight back against Muslims ended up enslaved.

For some reason I would say racism or occidentaphobia people seem to forget what caused the crusades , and dismiss the offensive religious wars that muslims have been waging for 1400 years

the legacy of jihad by andrew bostom http://www.andrewbostom.org/ or The Sword of the Prophet by Srdja Trifkovic are good books that look at jihad there are quite a few others .

 

I fail to see how the Crusades were a deffensive war for Europe,
when the furthest north Caliphate was in Iberia.
Martel pretty much made sure of that.

And don't pretend it's a big deal in European history
for a new power to overthrow a government and proceed
to rule the area. If every occurance like that spurred a crusade,
europe would have been emptied long ago.
It's pure racism, and the Inquisition and attitude of the Pope
more than confirm that.

 

As far as Islam being 'Archaic,'
I don't know personally of an decree by
the current Pope repealing the laws of the
Old Testament.

Until nuns walk around in bikinis,
I'd say the laws are still there and they are just
be ignored. For some reason that's called progress?

 

if you look at the early history of islam you will see that muslims attacked lots of countrys .

muslims had taken over two thirds of the entire christian world before the crusades the crusades as a religious war was really just copying what muslims had been doing to christians for hundreds of years.

dating back to the veiled threats that mohammed issued to non muslims that they would be safe if they converted to islam, you had pretty much constant war coming from muslims

islamic jihad pulled together muslims from lots of different areas its outcome was slavery and secondclass status for non muslims , so to oppose it you needed a multi-national force .

Im busy at the moment, but would advise you to read some books on the subject a easy to read book on this is robert spencers politically incorrect guide to islam and the crusades .

 

It seems kind of ironic to me
that a Christian is complaining about
any other religion 'Taking over the World.'

 

not sure if you mean me ? Im a atheist ....for some reason muslims allways think people being critical of islam are christians.

robert spencer is a christian he runs jihadwatch http://www.jihadwatch.org/

 

LETS GET THINGS STRAIGHT.
Wikipedia Crusade info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

"The Crusades were a series of several military campaigns—usually sanctioned by the Papacy—that took place during the 11th through 13th centuries. Originally, they were Roman Catholic Holy Wars to recapture Jerusalem and the Holy Land from the Muslims, but some were directed against other Europeans, such as the Albigensian Crusade against the Cathars of southern France and the Northern Crusades. The Fourth Crusade was originally intended to reach the Holy Land, but was re-directed by the Venetians against Constantinople."

 

Wow.
History is one messed up scary thing...

 

I know. We would think that humans as intelligent as they claim to be would learn from their mistakes.

 

dude the fact that it was self-humoring was fairly obvious. "oh crusades" as if i'm pining for bloodshed????...the entire post was ridiculous hyperbole with the only intention of posting on a forum i have never posted on before, as i am not muslim. but like i said, it was in honor of Cat and is outlandish posts on the christianity side of things. but seriously...way to have nill close reading skills.

 

way to have close reading skills. Blarg.

 

cant blame the spaniards for pushing the Moors out of Spain.

 

Yeah.
That's one of the things I'm on both sides of.
Everybody wants to be able to rule themselves...

 

cosmic butterfly you seem to have sidestepped the fact that hundreds of years of jihadi attacks caused the crusades .

yes there were other crusades of one form of christianity against another but that is not what most people think of when the word crusade is mentioned its not what muslims complain about all the time .
Ive never heard a muslim complain about the crusades against the cathars

the problem we have is muslims are in denial of what caused the original crusades against them , that they were the aggressor that their prophet declared war on the whole non muslims world a war thats still going on today .

 

...You know, I've never heard a Muslim complain about the crusades.
And, like I said before,
It's kind of funny for a European (why is it always about religion on this point?)
to be complaining about another group
being an 'aggressor.'
I mean, the track record is kind of against you there...

 

Well thats from the Arab influence in Islamic societies. The main reason women are covered up is because before islam came around, the only job for a woman was a prostitute or a wife, so they cover their faces to keep themselves from being degraded. This is not customs of all of Islam, just a propoganda tool so people feel more for the women. Women in our country couldn't even vote until the 50's, then things changed. Oh, and it would also explain why mary magdeline was called a prostitute, because that's the only work she could find!

 

I've never heard a Muslim complain about the crusades

I have lots of them seem to whine on about it all the time, and you to seem to have sidestepped the whole issue of jihad causing the crusades and jihad being caused by the (so called )prophet mohammed

and yes europeans have been aggressors but because we have a very racist history being taught ,people dont know that europeans were attacked and invaded to, they dont know about the barbary pirates or of the vast islamic slavery of the slavs the word slave comes from slav.

so whenever lets say people think of slavery they think of the european slavery of africans,that didnt go on that long and wasnt on the scale of islamic slavery and was ended by europeans .

with islam mohammed was a slaver, he had hundreds of personal slaves bought and sold people had a black man who he used to load down with luggage , and islam of itself never got rid of slavery ,t took european military force.

and to reefer again there is no proof that women were in this terrible state before islam except muslims say so , if you look at the neighbouring countrys like persia they had female admirals and generals so did some of the north african countrys

.....dont believe the hype islam did not improve the lot of women , it takes two women in a sheria court to equal one man , in the heart of islam they cant even drive a car or leave the house without a mans consent ,thats in saudi where mecca is slavery was still legal there until the 1970s I think I saw genuine black slaves there when I was a kid .

if islam was so great allah would have told mohammed to not make people into slaves, and slavery would have been got rid of in saudi before britain , but britain got rid of slavery 200 years before saudi

 

I can't get over the fact that
europe has done equal or
far worse than everything you mention
as something you hate about non-europeans,
but you still feel that europe is victimized,
and it appears that you say that europeans
are victimized by the simple fact that they
don't know, take offense to, and demand
unlimited vengeance for every non-native
european to ever walk on the land of the continent...